While the climate policy world is littered with numbers, three of them have dominated recent discourse: 2, 1000, and 66.
At the 2015 U.N. climate summit in Paris, world leaders agreed to limit global warming below 2°C to avoid catastrophic impacts of human-caused climate change. The science consequently dictates that, for a 50% chance of staying below 2°C, around 1,000 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide (or 300 billion tonnes of carbon) can be emitted between now and 2050, and close to zero thereafter. We’re currently emitting 36 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide per year. However, the potential greenhouse gas emissions contained in known, extractable fossil fuel reserves are around three times higher than this carbon budget, meaning that 66% must be kept in the ground.
The debate du jour thus centers on which emissions reduction pathway is most optimal for staying below 2°C. The calculus of many policymakers, economists, fossil fuel companies, and indeed scientists, is that the most economical way to stay below 2°C is to delay most emissions reductions for decades to come, and then to play catch up by relying heavily on as-yet technically and economically unviable negative-emissions technologies. However, a crucial number has been neglected in this mainstream calculation: 6.1 million.
Each year, 6.1 million lives are lost prematurely due to air pollution. Though most acutely and visibly hampering megacities of the developing world, air pollution is a growing public health emergency that affects almost all of us in our daily lives, whether or not we are aware of it. The Health Effects Institute estimates that only 5% of the global population are lucky enough to live in areas with air pollution levels below safe guidelines. Though recent studies suggest there may in fact be no risk-free level of air pollution.
Why is this number relevant to climate policy? Because one common culprit is responsible for the majority of both climate change and air pollution: fuel combustion. Burning coal, oil, natural gas, and biomass – for everyday uses ranging from electricity, heating, cooking, to transportation – releases hundreds of gases and particles, some of which disrupt the climate system or are harmful to human health, or both. Climate change could also worsen air quality in the future.
Decades of research have revealed that air pollution is associated with a wide range of diseases and disorders, including asthma, cancer, heart disease, stroke, and premature birth. There is also emerging evidence that pollution from coal combustion and motor vehicles can cause development delays, reduced IQ, and autism in children. The societal and economic costs of air pollution are multifold. There are costs to the affected individuals, to their families and to society in terms of direct medical costs, costs to healthcare systems, productivity losses, and lower economic growth (not to mention costs resulting from damages to ecosystems).
Yet almost none of these costs stemming from our fossil fuel reliance are included in the majority of cost-benefit analyses of climate mitigation strategies. A recent study estimates that the health co-benefits from air pollution reductions would outweigh the mitigation costs of staying below 2°C by 140–250% globally. Historical evidence paints a similar picture. The EPA estimates that the U.S. Clean Air Amendments cost $65bn to implement, but will have yielded a benefit of almost $2tn by 2020 in avoided health costs.
Many public healthexpert groups have underscored the enormous opportunity for leaders worldwide to design policies and initiatives that will simultaneously tackle climate change and air pollution. Examples include replacing the most carbon-intensive and polluting sources such as coal and heavy-duty diesel with lower-emission or renewable alternatives, ending fossil fuel subsidies, redesigning urban spaces to make it easier and safer to commute by foot, bicycle, and public transportation, and transitioning to a more circular and sustainable economy. While the climatic mitigation effects of such measures are long-term and dispersed globally, the health benefits are immediate and local.
For too long, the enormous toll of disease and deaths from fossil fuel pollution has been neglected in climate change policies and underappreciated by the public. But public health data makes it clear that not all 2°C scenarios are created equal. The lives and well-being of hundreds of millions of us – especially our children – could be at stake. We would be remiss to ignore it.
Dr. Ploy Achakulwisut is a Postdoctoral Scientist at the George Washington University Milken Institute School of Public Health. She has a PhD in Atmospheric Science from Harvard University.
MASTERMIND on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 12:17 am
Greg and Madkat
One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes a revolution in order to establish a dictatorship.
-George Orwell
makati1 on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 12:27 am
So true, Greg. The dumbing down has produced a generation that cannot think for themselves or understand how anything actually works in the real world. Or care.
History is ‘boring’. Math is ‘boring. Speaking and writing correct English is for nerds, yah know. Having 1,000 Facebook ‘friends’ is more important. When the 4X4 of reality knocks them to their knees, they will find out what the real world is all about, too late.
makati1 on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 12:28 am
Ignorance is your forte isn’t it MM?
GregT on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 12:33 am
MM,
Very few people to this day, understand exactly what the monster is. It was only on the radar of an extremely small group of people, prior to the internet.
“Its obvious they want Russia destroyed so they can take their oil and gas.”
They don’t care about Russian oil and gas MM. They care about controlling the world.
Putin kicked their asses out of Russia, even though they were the ones who put him into power, and Putin has also thrown a wrench into their PNAC/NWO.
“We got Putin surrounded though this time.”
Wrong again. They have you believing that Putin is your enemy, when in reality, they are.
“The US doesn’t bluff. They mean business and will stop at nothing.”
Not the US MM. These people are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain’. They could care less how many American lives are lost, or anybody elses for that matter.
makati1 on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 12:38 am
MM, Russia has about 7,000 nukes. And that “first strike” could well come from Moscow. Minutes, not hours away. Game over.
Most Us missile sites would be gone before they could retaliate. However, the Russians have the best anti-missile system in the world and also, their people have the shelters and know-how to survive any US missiles that might get thru.
On the other hand, the Us has antiques systems that don’t work against hyper-sonic missiles. The old nuclear shelters are gone and not 1 in 10,000 Americans would know what to do if they were bombed. Panic and chaos would reign in America. There is a reason that the Us paper tiger does not attack nuclear armed countries. Fear.
Cloggie on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 1:47 am
Its obvious they want Russia destroyed so they can take their oil and gas. I mean what the hell else does Russia have of any value? We got Putin surrounded though this time. And I bet its just a matter of time before he is hit with a nuclear first strike. And it will be the most shocking attack in all of history.
…and get America over with within 30 minutes as a bonus. The good people of Europe and China, as well as the Muslim world say: bring it on!
If they can kill 3k of their own people. Than a few million Russians wont mean shit.
Our kosher friend millimind at least admits 9/11 was a false flag, a level of (criminal) honesty, the notorious liar Davy can only dream about.
They mean business and will stop at nothing.
…if you ignore North-Korea, North-Vietnam, Lebanon, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria for a moment.LOL
http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/lg/public/2015/04/17/0417namfall01.jpg
But, to the US credit, Grenada (10,000 inhabitants) was a clean sweep. Gotta give ya that one.
Seriously, expect Iran to become America’s Waterloo. The neocon mob who apparently is back at the White House with Bolton will, do everything it can to start a war in the Gulf. Expect Russia and China to come to the aid of Iran, first as a proxy but perhaps later directly.
Now that UN sanctions against Iran have been lifted, nothing stands in the way of Iranian SCO-membership, after Pakistan and India already joined recently:
https://thediplomat.com/2018/02/could-the-sco-expand-into-the-middle-east/
If that were to happen, a US attack against Iran would imply WW3.
P.S. if you want to know what kind of people have hijacked America for a century now, just study the megalomaniac posts of millimind/apneaman and you know first hand how the kosher mob thinks and what they intend to do with European America:
https://documents1940.wordpress.com/2017/09/27/paul-krugman-white-americans-are-losing-their-country/
It is the scum of the earth. America needs a good scrub.
Cloggie on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 2:08 am
German minister of economic affairs Altmaier announced last week that within 4-5 years all renewable energy subsidies will be abolished, since these sources of energy will be fully competitive with traditional sources of energy:
https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/wirtschaft/ende-der-subventionen-altmaier–erneuerbare-energien-bald-voll-wettbewerbsfaehig-30029270
Translation: renewable energy has won in Europe. Old fossil based junk will gradually be written off and replaced by solar and wind, onshore or offshore. That’s the advantage of having no fossil fuel reserves worth mentioning after depletion of the North Sea oil and gas and Dutch natural gas in Slochteren. Europe will be the first to have a fully fledged renewable energy system by 2050 at the latest, with which it can conquer the rest of the world energy markets in the coming decades.
Anonymouse1 on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 2:14 am
Exceptionalturd, you’ve been blaming mak and ‘his generation’ for the state of the world for years. That shit isn’t going to stick the wall of your bayou shack no matter how many times you fling it. And it hardly matters that your sock ‘mushmind’ is repeating it over and over, or davyturd himself.
Go get some of that help you so desperately need. Sitting in that shack of yours, raging at filipinos, ‘Putin’ and mak isn’t exactly helping you all that much.
Antius on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 3:27 am
Not one of you idiots is actually discussing the topic of the article!
Antius on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 3:44 am
“Most Americans today have no idea as to what exactly it was that America gained independence from makati1, or how that same independence was lost in 1913.”
I have just started reading ‘The War Against Putin’ by M. S. King. It is filling in a lot of blanks. The present war against Russia and Putin, is all about their failure to kneel at the feet of globalist Jews and their patsies.
Antius on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 4:01 am
“Translation: renewable energy has won in Europe.”
If you completely castrate nuclear energy, then fossil fuel depletion ultimately forces your country onto the only energy sources that remain: intermittent ambient energy sources.
The fact that it is happening does not make it good. So long as fossil fuels remain available for backup, then renewable energy can substitute them at a higher (but maybe tolerable) price. But beyond a certain point, costs increase rapidly. A wholly renewable energy economy would require a very different way of life to what we have now. It is noteworthy that neither Russia nor China are pursuing this course. Both are building nuclear reactors as rapidly as they can.
makati1 on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 4:16 am
Ant, what article? Oh! Old news!
And, yep! You are beginning to see why all the anti-Russia/Putin propaganda is rampant in Western news and articles. The Americans have hit the immovable object and are throwing tantrums when they cannot get their own way.
Go Speed Racer on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 4:29 am
Reduce CO2 emissions? LOL.
Cloggie on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 4:39 am
@Antius – glad we agree that renewable energy won, in Europe. 😉
We need good brains like yours to help make it work. The opportunities are endless.
Russia is making a beginning with renewable energy as well, but it intends to sell all its reserves first, just like the Dutch sold their gas first before they embarked on massive offshore wind projects. A smaller Dutch company called Lagerwey is allowed to “do Russia”, where the big players Vestas and Siemens and Sif and van Oord (and Shell) and others do the lucrative European market:
http://www.rosatom.ru/en/press-centre/news/russian-wind-industry-boosted-by-joint-venture-between-rosatom-and-lagerwey/
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/01/the-dutch-plan-to-build-the-worlds-biggest-wind-farm
In Europe, Antius’ Britain is merrily being the biggest in offshore wind, the orders in Denmark, Germany (turbines) and Holland (monopiles and installation) are piling up:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/feb/06/uk-built-half-of-europes-offshore-wind-power-in-2017
China however is the nation with the biggest program of them all, no surprise with 1350 million people.
Cloggie on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 4:50 am
I have just started reading ‘The War Against Putin’ by M. S. King. It is filling in a lot of blanks. The present war against Russia and Putin, is all about their failure to kneel at the feet of globalist Jews and their patsies.
The globalist (((owners))) of the US want to conquer the entire world. Their strategy is to restore the situation of between 1990-2000, that is bring Russia again into the western orbit. Together they will have enough gravitas to force China to give up sovereignty in the direction of the UN. In their view, Russia is the weaker link as compared with China. Russian and Chinese leaders are completely aware of the situation and they won’t let Washington play them out against each others. Nevertheless geopolitical opportunities can arise, yet another 9/11-style false flag organized, like the detonation of a suitcase nuke somewhere, if the kosher fanatics in the Beltway are convinced it wil will bring them geopolitical advantage.
Their cards aren’t very good and they know it:
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-09-27/america-s-new-world-order-is-officially-dead
The “sad” truth is that the US became too soon a third world country, Russia escaped, thanks to the clumsy maneuvering of the jewish oligarch Berezovsky, who was foolish enough to promote Putin as the next intended puppet after Jelzin. Boy, did that fail titanically.lol
And then there is the meteoric rise of China. Exit US global empire and PNAC, the architects behind 9/11, is dead in the water. There is not going to be a New American Century. The rest will be Eurasian mopping up operations and the carving up of Anglosphere into new spheres of influence, after WW3:
http://tinyurl.com/y8ydx6a9
Potential initiation points end US empire:
– Iran
– South China Sea
– White nationalist uprising in the US after Trump
MASTERMIND on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 5:29 am
Yes, Solar And Wind Really Do Increase Electricity Prices — And For Inherently Physical Reasons
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/04/25/yes-solar-and-wind-really-do-increase-electricity-prices-and-for-inherently-physical-reasons/#7c6d3f3217e8
Big tech says solar and wind will lower your energy bills? Nothing could be further from the truth. They raise them sky high and send your factories offshore ie see Germany’s BMW plant.
Davy on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 5:30 am
“So true, Greg. The dumbing down has produced a generation that cannot think for themselves or understand how anything actually works in the real world. Or care.”
3rd world, quit your whining. It is your generations that is at fault. You are to blame 3rd world. You and your generation could have saved the planet but instead turned to greed and hate. Its too late now for this younger generation you screwed over. You SUCK!
MASTERMIND on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 5:34 am
Clogg
They will do a false flag here soon enough. Then Putin will be hit with a nuclear first strike. And it will shake humanity to the bone. Nobody will ever fuck with us again. They will make an example out of old Vlad the bad…
As the globalist love to sing..Vladdy daady we likes to part’e
Davy on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 5:50 am
“Russia’s arsenal vs. the US’s”
https://tinyurl.com/zpw53tr
“Russians made a really different design choice than we did,” when it came to building ICBMs, said Lewis. “Russia built nuclear weapons that are incremental improvements,” or weapons that would need updating every decade or so. On the other hand, Lewis said, “US nukes are like Ferraris: beautiful, intricate, and designed for high performance. Experts have said the plutonium pits will last for 100s of years.” Indeed the US’s stocks of Minuteman III ICBMS, despite their age, are “exquisite machinery, incredible things.”
Davy on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 5:54 am
“…and get America over with within 30 minutes as a bonus. The good people of Europe and China, as well as the Muslim world say: bring it on!”
Now you see why I call you a disgusting Nazi
“If that were to happen, a US attack against Iran would imply WW3.”
How do you know nedermazi? Where is it written?
“It is the scum of the earth. America needs a good scrub.”
You are a rancid piece of flesh that needs to be put in a rendering pool to rot away from the public.
Cloggie on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 5:55 am
Big tech says solar and wind will lower your energy bills? Nothing could be further from the truth. They raise them sky high and send your factories offshore ie see Germany’s BMW plant.
Haha, that’s CSP. Only Americans and camel jockeys do that.lol
European winners put their cards on wind and solar and with it we are going to conquer the entire planet.
Then Putin will be hit with a nuclear first strike. And it will shake humanity to the bone. Nobody will ever fuck with us again. They will make an example out of old Vlad the bad…
What makes you so sure you can eliminate the MAD-capability from the Russians? And who is “we”? You mean your kiken-tribe? All it takes is a few blasts on NYC, Washington, Tel Aviv and Jerusalem en turn your mob into fried bagels and Henry Ford’s “world foremost problem” is solved once and for all.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_International_Jew
Sorry pall, but you need to get rid of the Trumpert first to launch that nuclear strike, which will trigger a white nationalist reaction.
Between 1938-1953 you lost the USSR. Look how this kosher pig and WW2-architect William Bullitt is squirming because of it.ROFL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWakgLZOiZQ
Now the US is going to be liberated from you lot. Two “Anglo” centuries are more than enough, thank you very much.
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/06/11/20160612_nothing.jpg
Eurasian century is next.
MASTERMIND on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 5:57 am
UK economy in weakest growth since 2012
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43919094
Davy on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:00 am
“Translation: renewable energy has won in Europe.”
I hardly call approximately 7% penetration (wind+solar) “won” for the Eurotards. There is little in the way of storage potential and little in the way of EV transport stock. More nederhype from the Eurotard chauvinist.
makati1 on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:00 am
“Eurasian century is next.” I have to agree on that one Cloggie.
Cloggie on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:03 am
“…and get America over with within 30 minutes as a bonus. The good people of Europe and China, as well as the Muslim world say: bring it on!”
Now you see why I call you a disgusting Nazi
Let me get this straight… millikike says that Russia is going to be annihilated with American nukes and we get not a peep from the Prozark. But if I say that Russia will always retaliate, leading to the elimination of both Russia and America, meathead the hypocrite gets angry. That’s not fair!!! LOL
Poor davy-boy, his murderous empire is going belly-up and his anger proves that deep inside he knows he is toast.
Oh and not being called a Nazi is a day not lived.ROFL
Two billion Eurasians and 330 million Americans, what a slaughter fest that is going to be. Probably the largest in history. And Americans are going to start it. The koshers will bravely fight until the last American… provided the latter don’t rise up, which is what they will, after 100k or so killed in Eurasia. Which shouldn’t be too difficult in the age of the missile.
MASTERMIND on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:04 am
Madkat and clogg
How is there going to be a Eurasian century without oil? Those two regions are the two largest oil importers. They are going to get crushed the most by peak oil supply shortages. You two both are total deniers of facts and experts. Just wait. they will be crushed like a paper bag, and soon!
https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa
Davy on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:08 am
Sure you do 3rd world that is part of your groupie agenda. You guys think alike. You guys are sports fans and this is all an ego game. You two could give a shit about the truth. It is easy to peg you on this because you never have a bad thing to say about your side and always the worst for the side you hate.
Cloggie on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:14 am
I hardly call approximately 7% penetration (wind+solar) “won” for the Eurotards. There is little in the way of storage potential and little in the way of EV transport stock. More nederhype from the Eurotard chauvinist.
As usual meathead the prozark is pulling everything out of context. I quoted the German minister of economic affairs for saying that renewable energy soon will no longer require subsidies… because it has become competitive. Europe has a policy of getting rid of fossil fuel completely by 2050. These two facts combined mean that renewable energy has won in Europe. We already have 20% primary renewable energy throughout the EU (hydro, bio, wind, solar) and every year a few % will be added and at the same time phasing out fossil fuel. In 2030 that should be 35% primary energy and increase energy efficiency of 35%, which means that effectively we already will have something like 50% renewable energy as compared to base year (1990 I believe).
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20180112IPR91629/meps-set-ambitious-targets-for-cleaner-more-efficient-energy-use
That would makes us in Europe virtual invulnerable from outside pressure or blackmail or blockades. With renewable energy alone in 2030 we would be at a 1970 level and were fine then already.
Davy on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:15 am
“…and get America over with within 30 minutes as a bonus. The good people of Europe and China, as well as the Muslim world say: bring it on!”
You are probably closer to being annihilated being on the front line of the new cold war so maybe that is why you project.
“But if I say that Russia will always retaliate, leading to the elimination of both Russia and America, meathead the hypocrite gets angry. That’s not fair!!! LOL”
Murderous war lust that is deep in that disgusting heart you have. It is how Nazi’s think and acted.
“Two billion Eurasians and 330 million Americans, what a slaughter fest that is going to be. Probably the largest in history. And Americans are going to start it.”
There the war hungry nedernazi goes again. First Eurasia is not one political unit allied in an empire much as your fantasy world believes it to be. Get over it. Russia is on one side of the border and Nato the other. PBM is a stupid fantasy.
Davy on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:22 am
“As usual meathead the prozark is pulling everything out of context. I quoted the German minister of economic affairs for saying that renewable energy soon will no longer require subsidies”
A stupid minister that panders to policy goal by goal seeking and wishful thinking means you won? Fossil fuels still make up more of the mix than renewables and you say you won? No wonder you Eurotards are at the back of the line in world power structures.
“We already have 20% primary renewable energy throughout the EU (hydro, bio, wind, solar) and every year a few % will be added and at the same time phasing out fossil fuel.”
The effort is stalling per unrealistic goals. Quit interjecting hydro and bio they are old infrastructure you use to make the numbers look better. What matters is wind and solar and that is at 7%. Where is the storage pom pom girl?
“That would makes us in Europe virtual invulnerable from outside pressure or blackmail or blockades. With renewable energy alone in 2030 we would be at a 1970 level and were fine then already.”
Dream on nedernazi, the only reason you care about your renewable fantasy is related to your PBM Empire fantasy.
Cloggie on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:24 am
How is there going to be a Eurasian century without oil? Those two regions are the two largest oil importers.
http://www.businessinsider.com/worlds-largest-wind-farm-netherlands-island-2018-1?international=true&r=US&IR=T
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2593032/Coal-fuel-UK-centuries-Vast-deposits-totalling-23trillion-tonnes-North-Sea.html
Renewable energy + unlimited amounts of coal under the North Sea will ensure that Europe will ALWAYS achieve its 100% renewable energy goals. Not that I think we need to explore North Sea coal. The Russians will deliver us sufficient oil and our renewable energy program will ensure that we will stay ahead of the downwards trend in conventional oil. The increase in renewable energy capacity will more than offset the decline in conventional oil supply.
America is a different story of course. I just learned today that US car companies will soon no longer produce smaller cars. So we Europeans are going to take over that market as well I see, once the oil prices will rise again, 2008 style? LOL
You do realize that we won’t accept dollars by that time? Gold is fine or barter.
MASTERMIND on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:30 am
Clogg
Oil is not used for electricity in Europe so wind and solar power don’t matter. And your daily mail article is bullshit. And underground coal gasification is a pipe dream. And let me explain this to you for the thousand time. Coal cannot work without crude, crude cannot work without coal, natural gas cannot work without both oil and coal, Shale oil cannot work without any of those, and so on…
https://imgur.com/a/pYxKa
MASTERMIND on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:33 am
Clogg
Russia is peaking soon.
IEA: Russia’s oil output to reach its peak in 2020
http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/IEA-Russia%E2%80%99s-oil-output-to-reach-its-peak-in-2020.html
MASTERMIND on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:33 am
Clog
Ignore the spin: Coal gasification is a stupid idea
https://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2009/05/however-you-spin-it-coal-gasif.html
MASTERMIND on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:35 am
Clogg
Projection of world fossil fuels by country (Mohr, 2015)
Over 900 different regions and subfuel situations were modeled using three URR scenarios of Low, High, and Best Guess. All three scenarios indicate that the consistent strong growth in world fossil fuel production ie (Coal,Oil,Gas) is likely to cease after 2025. The Low and Best Guess scenarios are projected to peak before 2025 and decline thereafter. The High scenario is anticipated to have a strong growth to 2025 before stagnating in production for 50 years and thereafter declining.
https://www.scribd.com/document/375110317/Projection-of-World-Fossil-Fuels-by-Country-Mohr-2015
Davy on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 6:41 am
“Renewable energy + unlimited amounts of coal under the North Sea will ensure that Europe will ALWAYS achieve its 100% renewable energy goals.”
Fantasy. Renewable energy is at 7% and stalling with unrealistic goals. There is no meaningful storage potential at the moment. North Sea coal is an even bigger fantasy. There is nothing going on with this coal and for good reason it is not at all affordable.
“Not that I think we need to explore North Sea coal. The Russians will deliver us sufficient oil and our renewable energy program will ensure that we will stay ahead of the downwards trend in conventional oil.”
You are in a new cold war with Russia so please don’t count them in as a given.
“America is a different story of course. I just learned today that US car companies will soon no longer produce smaller cars.”
Stupid liar, Ford motor company is not all US car companies. You are such a drama queen and this is because your agenda is so dreamt up and extreme.
“You do realize that we won’t accept dollars by that time? Gold is fine or barter.”
Realize what amateur economist? In your dreams the dollar is gone and with it the Euro. Gold is an investment not a currency. Just more blather from the board loud mouth.
Cloggie on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 7:15 am
You are in a new cold war with Russia so please don’t count them in as a given.
Eh no, you f* try to push us in a new cold war but we are not biting. Germany and Italy paid merely lip-service over Syria but in the mean time do business with Russia. And China.
Look, we are your allies. We wait until you are locked in a war with China and Russia, probably over Iran. Once that is a fact we will become allies of Russia and China and ax you, all three of us. Got it?
https://www.rt.com/news/387313-us-losing-leadership-eu-mogherini/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0FXRfAtIWc
You are an impotent third world country now and a geopolitical has-been, locked in a potentially terminal battle between whites on the one hand and koshers + third world import on the other hand, likely leading to CW2. If you are lucky we will accept 120 million of you “after the break” as a junior partner of the Great White World. Not that you deserve it, considering your actions in WW2.
Now go start that f* war against Iran, we in Europe are getting impatient.
Cloggie on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 7:23 am
Fantasy. Renewable energy is at 7% and stalling with unrealistic goals.
You have no clue, as always:
https://tinyurl.com/ycev5f5h
20% renewable primary energy by 2020.
And the project is not stalling at all:
https://windeurope.org/about-wind/statistics/european/wind-in-power-2017/
https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/articles/2018/02/europe-goes-big-on-solar-8-6-gw-installed-in-2017.html
Last year new wind installation record with 17 GW and solar 9 GW, together 26 GW (nameplate). Average EU power consumption something like 330 GW (top of my head). Should give you an idea of the scale of the renewable energy projects in Europe.
WE ARE SIMPLY GOING TO ACHIEVE OUR GOALS.
Ford motor company is not all US car companies.
Oh, has it been taken over by the Chinese? Missed that.
Davy on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 7:52 am
You are a big talker nederliar probably becuase your comments are mostly revisions, fantasy projections, and or binary biased cherry picking efforts. These things need big talk to hype a facade of reality into them. Fraud
Davy on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 7:56 am
“20% renewable primary energy by 2020”. What part
Is wind and solar, Pom Pom girl? How much storage Houdini?
MASTERMIND on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 8:04 am
U.S. GDP slows a bit to 2.3% in first quarter
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-gdp-slows-a-bit-to-23-in-first-quarter-2018-04-27?siteid=bullytweet
Trump’s economy actually got worse after his tax cuts….EPIC FAIL…
MASTERMIND on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 8:08 am
Clogg
20 percent primary “Electricity”…You keep misusing the terms “Electricity and Energy”. Its impossible to have all of Europe’s energy needs met by renewable s, because oil powers 90 percent of transportation and machinery. And there are no substitutes.
Cloggie on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 8:15 am
20 percent primary “Electricity”…You keep misusing the terms “Electricity and Energy”.
20% PRIMARY ENERGY, not just electricity.
See if you can find the line “in % of gross final energy consumption”.
Good luck finding!
Oh and that will be 35% in 2030, not including an extra increase of 35% in overall energy efficiency. By 2030 Europe will be the first continent to be in energy safety.
Have fun in your stupid SUVs! Everybody understands that you have to drive to MacDonalds in a monster truck of 3 ton. ROFL
rockman on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 8:20 am
You boys are certainly free to debate what will happen in the future. Of course, no one can win the argument because no one here can PROVE what will happen in the future. Why the Rockman prefers to stick with the facts. Such as what’s the current situation and the short-term trends. And as we’ve seen in the last 15 years projecting short-term trends into the distant future is a fool’s game.
In the meantime, space here is being used trying to change OPINIONS that won’t change. Not a terrible sin but so much effort with so little results. Seems like the pro alt future could be presenting details of technology while the anti alt crowd could resent details of the financial cost of such a future. For instance, Texas wind has had a great wind power growth trend the last 10 years. But a portion of that build out was justified by very high NG costs. Costs that later dropped dramatically. And now solar beginning to ramp up. But the future? Well, E.ON is building a short term battery storage system to hold power from two wind farms it owns. Think what ECONOMIC SUCCESS with such a system would mean for solar. Seems like a critical technology to keep an eye on.
Again, we can chase our tails debating what new battery tech MIGHT do in the future. More wheel spinning IMHO. Better to focus on what exists today or being developed and having its economics being tested now.
But that’s just one person’s OPINION.
MASTERMIND on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 8:30 am
Rockman
Yes we can predict what wil happen in the future with science. If I smoke a pack of cigarettes everyday all my life, can we predict what will happen? If I eat Mcdonalds everyday can we predict what my future weight will be? If you take the zip code someone born in America’s birthplace. You can predict with a high level of accuracy what their education level, income level, and life expectancy will be.
Cloggie on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 8:32 am
Again, we can chase our tails debating what new battery tech MIGHT do in the future. More wheel spinning IMHO. Better to focus on what exists today or being developed and having its economics being tested now.
But that’s just one person’s OPINION.
Price is not the only criterium. Europe is willing to pay a price for NOT injecting ever more quantities of CO2 into the atmosphere.
Additional great cost reductions are promised by solar and wind industry in the coming few years. In a couple of years wind and solar will be able to compete on price alone. And climate change likely will stay around and increase in intensity.
Difficult to see how “alt” could lose. Perhaps in the long term it could be defeated by fusion. But first see, then believe. Fossil is out though in a decade or two.
MASTERMIND on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 8:38 am
Clogg
Once the world is in a full blown oil/energy crisis in a few years, with people unable to drive to work, school buses unable to run, farm tractors running out of fuel to grow our food, we’ll be existing in such a state of chaos and confusion that we won’t give a damn about the weather/climate…
Davy on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 8:48 am
“Additional great cost reductions are promised by solar and wind industry in the coming few years. In a couple of years wind and solar will be able to compete on price alone.”
In the coming years “IF” solar and wind hit a penetration point where storage is needed to increase further penetration this then is a game changing point. Currently the backup of choice is the traditional energy sources of pre-renewable era. As the penetration pushes intermittency boundaries then storage and or fossil fuel backup will significantly raise the cost of wind and solar. It is a farce to argue wind and solar cost keep coming down without acknowledging this situation. This is just more of the reason you are a fake and a fraud nederliar.
JuanP on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 9:09 am
99 of the last 100 centuries were Eurasian. This one will be, too. The American Empire’s century was nothing more than an exception to the rule. Before arguing with my logic look at a world map for five minutes. The American continent is the world’s butt, always has been.
JuanP on Fri, 27th Apr 2018 9:10 am
Without oil the USA is nothing more than flyover country.