[mgibbons19]

Hmm, dumbass, self righteous. Pot - meet kettle.

SUVs aren't the problem. You'ld think on a peak oil board, folks would understand that. Even if the entire friggin USA drove Priuses, the problem would be the same. Calling folks names isn't going to persuade them toward your way of thinking now is it?

But at least you get to feel all superior with the cartoons and all. The view must be mighty nice up on that horse.

[lardlad]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', 'E')ven if the entire friggin USA drove Priuses, the problem would be the same.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', 'W')ords don't impress your type much, maybe pictures will get through.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Liamj', 'N')ice compilation lardlad, but i don't think the repletes have smarts enough to learn.
None of the defenders of SUVs have advanced any reasoning that didn't relate directly to their own comfort and safety, not even their childrens well being moved them. Should such sociopathic thinking continue to be pandered to with tax breaks etc?

Am curious if non-SUV-needing readers think laziness or insecurity is the bigger driver in fans of auto-augmentation?


NB// on some occasions and for some work larger vehicles are the best tool for the job - which is <10% of the use i see.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', 'E')ven if the entire friggin USA drove Priuses, the problem would be the same.

[mgibbons19]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', 'E')ven if the entire friggin USA drove Priuses, the problem would be the same.

[lardlad]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'M')y type? You mean rational, logical types that value PERSONAL FREEDOM? Personal freedom. Something you dont know a fucking thing about.

[lardlad]

BTW, I'm one of those who believe that conservation will give us time we desperately need, and Jevon's Paradox will not necessarily apply.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')evons Paradox is an observation made by William Stanley Jevons who stated that as technological improvements increase the efficiency with which a resource is used, total consumption of that resource may increase, rather than decrease. It is historically called Jevons Paradox since it ran counter to Jevons' own intuition, but it is not a paradox at all and is well understood by modern economic theory which shows that improved resource efficiency may trigger a change in the overall consumption of that resource, but the direction of that change depends on other economic variables.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'M')y type? You mean rational, logical types that value PERSONAL FREEDOM? Personal freedom. Something you dont know a fucking thing about.

[lotrfan55345]

If only...

[Liamj]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '.')..
See how this works? Its that word again, FREEDOM. Goddamn people are chickenshit cowards who cant make a single decision in life without wanting the government to hold their hand and tell them what to do.

[lardlad]

Good point, Liamj.

More:
http://www.ihateyoursuv.com/

[lardlad]

Even better (makes the point so well):

http://www.tremlett.com.au/fours/index.html

[BorneoRagnarok]

Wah the funny SUV pictures entertained me. Here in Borneo, SUV drivers are quite arrogant too as SUV here costs quite high relative to the low income level. Hey, poories. See my shiny SUV. But the Monkey Lardlad vs Spec 007 debates are pointless.

Oil price and oil supply will determine transportation mode. Let the imperfect market decides as it is better than centralised authority. One Joseph Stalin greenies said all cars owners must be shoot with anti-aircraft guns. Another car owner said "Traffic jam is the result of low speed limit." Another say "Government should banned all motorcycles and bicycles as they are too slow." If Germany win WW2, all of us have to be vegetarian, don't drink, no smoking provided you are not replaced with 'superior race'. My way is holier than your way cannot solve peak oil crisis. Hey UnHoly Roman Empire and Taliban tried it before. So ...

So let the market decided. By the way I use bicycle to work nowadays. Everyone tends to ask some "you know what" questions. To avoid negative perception of peakers like Lardlad and Spec007, I just said my car has major damages. No $$ to repair yet. That's end any Q&A session. BTW, belows are some of my friends opinions. Read it with "Disney" Moses way of singing.

Dangerous, dangerous
Bicycle is dangerous.
You may get killed...
You may splated.
You may be crippleeeeed.
If you died , your parents will cried.....
If you died, your parents will waste their money...

We have lots of oil...
It will never finished....
Hydrogen car is out in Singapore now...
It will arrived here soon...
Malaysia must use cheaper NGV...
Natural gas cheaper...
Government sucked $$$.

OPEC is bad...
They don't like Christians....
Petronas is bad....
Ministers steal from national coffers.

Fusion will save us...
OPEC killed fusion scientists..
Solar panels can save us...
Bakun dam can save us...

[lardlad]

[mgibbons19]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', 'B')TW, I'm one of those who believe that conservation will give us time we desperately need, and Jevon's Paradox will not necessarily apply.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Liamj', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '.')..
See how this works? Its that word again, FREEDOM. Goddamn people are chickenshit cowards who cant make a single decision in life without wanting the government to hold their hand and tell them what to do.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', 'B')TW, I'm one of those who believe that conservation will give us time we desperately need, and Jevon's Paradox will not necessarily apply.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')evons Paradox is an observation made by William Stanley Jevons who stated that as technological improvements increase the efficiency with which a resource is used, total consumption of that resource may increase, rather than decrease. It is historically called Jevons Paradox since it ran counter to Jevons' own intuition, but it is not a paradox at all and is well understood by modern economic theory which shows that improved resource efficiency may trigger a change in the overall consumption of that resource, but the direction of that change depends on other economic variables.

[lardlad]

Specop, what makes your remarks so ludicrous is that you're obviously defending your personal decision to buy one of these behemoths. You are not a dispassionate and disinterested (meaning uninvolved) commentator.

It amazes me that you have been at this site for so long and posted 1000s of messages but still do not see that SUV driving is a major part of the problem we are now all facing.

In fact, your voluble presence here is highly depressing. If this site cannot re-educate troglodytes like you into better behaviours, I question its usefulness. You've managed to find a set of intellectual gymnastics that allow you to be both a POer and yet still live the Murkan lifestyle to the very fullest (or "foulest" as my spellchecker aptly suggested), kinda like Jimmy Swaggart bemoaning and cursing the sinners in public and then drooling over whores in his private rooms.

Sad.

[lardlad]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'S')UV's meet the same emissions as other cars. So how do they "overpollute"? ... As for overconsume and get fat, what does that have to do with SUV's? How is an SUV driver "overconsuming"? Overconsuming what?