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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby Specop_007 » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 19:38:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', 'O')ne of the biggest problems with SUVs is the fact that they are built on truck frames that do not deform to absorb impact in an accident. The H-frame is rigid for carrying load. Without any crumple zones, all forces of the accident are transmitted to the occupants. Now since most cars on the road today in the USA are SUVs, your chances of hitting or being hit by another SUV is very high, exacerbating this situation even further.

SUVs are simply a bad, bad idea. They need to be removed from the road asap.


You havent given a valid reason for removing them. Would you also say we should just remove all cars, because cars are dangerous? How about redmeat, thats bad for you. Where do you draw the line between freedom and safety? Should people be free to choose to drive what they please, or should we live in a facist state where you told everything you can and cannot do, but also live relatively safely?
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby lardlad » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 19:54:30

I draw the line between freedom and safety when a technology takes a step back to a more primitive technology that increases the level of hazard to the public generally. One of the biggest advances in road safety was the introduction of crumple zones, thanks to Ralph Nader (inter alia). SUVs are a distinct step backwards, and if we didn't have ABS brakes we'd see a horrific rise in the road death toll.

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More information on why SUVs are stupid shite:
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby ranger » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 19:57:52

I have Yukon XL and I LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT!!!!!!!! Peak oil or not I love "my beast"!
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby lardlad » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 20:09:20

Low wattage bulb alert.
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby ALBY » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 20:32:00

99 3/4 suburban here. 107,436 miles, 454 V8, no car payment.

anyone who thinks they should get brownie points for driving their prius is the low wattage bulb.
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby Liamj » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 20:35:05

I hate SUV's because they're dangerous, selfish and stupid. Its not a one-to-one relationship with dangerous, selfish and stupid SUV drivers, but its getting close.
Specop does a great job trotting out all the usual excuses & RightThink talking points (so you joined up yet Specop?), but its bullshit and he and we all know it.
Bigger vehicles take longer to stop, higher vehicles tip/roll more, they are more rigid, have higher & worse impacts, and crap visibility close in (Four? kids have been killed in their driveways by SUVs in last twelve months in Aus., one by a sportstar dad who advertised the very tank he killed his son with).
Safer? For people afeared of discovering just how fat & lazy they've become.

Inflammatory suggestions:
1. Anyone more than 5kg over their ideal bodyweight to have their cars immobilised.
2. Everybody has to push their vehicles the first fifty yards.
3. Men with endowment issues can instead carry around and display big sausages (don't think i don't care about ya specop :) ).
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby lardlad » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 20:36:59

MYTH - SUVS ARE SAFE

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ROLL OVER!! ROLL OVER!!

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NOW, GO HERE IMMEDIATELY AND LEARN A BIT:
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby Specop_007 » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 20:40:12

YOU STILL HAVENT MADE A CASE AGAINST BANNING SUV'S

What does a few pictures of car crashes prove? Want me to find some pictures of...ohhh.....a wrecked Taurus? Or Mustang? Cavalier?

CARS are unsafe, lets just ban cars. And stairs, better ban those too. Dont forget paper cuts, those hurt like a sommbitch. Oh, and knives!! They can cut you!. Better ban water too, it might have bad chemicals in it......

People arent forced to drive SUV's. They CHOOSE to. I know choice is a hard concept for liberals who want the government to look over every aspect of their day to day lives, but believe it or not there are those of us who like being able to make CHOICES.

So tell me again, what is your case for banning SUV's? Because they roll over? Want me to find pictures of cars that rolled over? If you want to parade about banning something, ban motorcycles.
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby lardlad » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 20:41:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ALBY', '9')9 3/4 suburban here. 107,436 miles, 454 V8, no car payment.

anyone who thinks they should get brownie points for driving their prius is the low wattage bulb.


99 Suburban, eh? It's got a high rollover rating, even the 2005 model:
http://www.rolloverlawyer.com/rollover_rating/index.htm
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby Specop_007 » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 20:42:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ALBY', '9')9 3/4 suburban here. 107,436 miles, 454 V8, no car payment.

anyone who thinks they should get brownie points for driving their prius is the low wattage bulb.


99 Suburban, eh? It's got a high rollover rating, even the 2005 model:
http://www.rolloverlawyer.com/rollover_rating/index.htm


OH NO! HE'S GONNA DIE!!

Go away Chicken Little, big boys are talkin here. :roll:
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby holmes » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 20:49:25

check out the statistics of who kills the most pedestrians and bikers each year and what type of vehicles. I can attest to these stats. I am involved with the alternate commute networks out here and most all my near death experiences have been from suvers. On cell phones, cutting red light corners, blowing through red lights, etc.. The worst was a women in the morning a few months back on cell phone, escalade or some other big thing, blew around the turn on red probably at around 50 miles and hour in a 25 zone. I had the walk light. I just happened to see the nasty hole in the corner of my eye and stopped missed me by a millimeter. scary man. That was a day if there is a god it saved me that day. Well anyway the nasty stinky hole just kept going full speed. I even looked her in the eyes. she pretended not to see me (get that alot from the humanoids). they will actually pretend not to see u and just go at u.
she didnt want to wait for the lights. It actually made me get a new better job in an area with less traffic and suv genetic mutants. The lunatic jihad driver was another one that got me out of that no mans land also but thats another story. He didnt have an suv though just a mid size pickup.
Not very friendly people. and clearchannel put a threat out to all walkers and bikers to run them over. Hey I own a mazda b3000 so I am not antitruck. anti Madmen at the helm!
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby Specop_007 » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 20:52:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'c')heck out the statistics of who kills the most pedestrians and bikers each year and what type of vehicles. I can attest to these stats. I am involved with the alternate commute networks out here and most all my near death experiences have been from suvers. On cell phones, cutting red light corners, blowing through red lights, etc.. The worst was a women in the morning a few months back on cell phone, escalade or some other big thing, blew around the turn on red probably at around 50 miles and hour in a 25 zone. I had the walk light. I just happened to see the nasty hole in the corner of my eye and stopped missed me by a millimeter. scary man. That was a day if there is a god it saved me that day. Well anyway the nasty stinky hole just kept going full speed. I even looked her in the eyes. she pretended not to see me (get that alot from the humanoids). they will actually pretend not to see u and just go at u.
she didnt want to wait for the lights. It actually made me get a new better job in an area with less traffic and suv genetic mutants. The lunatic jihad driver was another one that got me out of that no mans land also but thats another story. He didnt have an suv though just a mid size pickup.
Not very friendly people. and clearchannel put a threat out to all walkers and bikers to run them over. Hey I own a mazda b3000 so I am not antitruck. anti Madmen at the helm!


Look at that, we get to the heart of the problem.

It doesnt matter WHAT you drive, if your a BAD driver theres going to be problems whatever you drive, be it a Honda or Escalade.
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby lardlad » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 20:53:05

I'm going to piss myself laughing when all you SUV drivers have to pay $10 a gallon for fuel! Oooooh yes, that'll be good. :)

I already get a big kick out of seeing SUV drivers wince when they see the total on the pump. It makes every fill up a pleasure for me.

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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby Specop_007 » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 20:58:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', 'I')'m going to piss myself laughing when all you SUV drivers have to pay $10 a gallon for fuel! Oooooh yes, that'll be good. :)

I already get a big kick out of seeing SUV drivers wince when they see the total on the pump. It makes every fill up a pleasure for me.


So your hatred for SUV's stems from your jealousy at being inable to afford to buy and maintain one?
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby lardlad » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 21:19:09

Son, I could buy 20 SUVs and not notice it. I simply think they are the equivalent of environmental vandalism, and they are part of what we need to get rid of if we are to face peak oil successfully, whenever it arrives.

And we need to start facing it soon.
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby lardlad » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 21:33:27

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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

Unread postby Specop_007 » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 21:34:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', 'S')on, I could buy 20 SUVs and not notice it. I simply think they are the equivalent of environmental vandalism, and they are part of what we need to get rid of if we are to face peak oil successfully, whenever it arrives.

And we need to start facing it soon.


First, I think your full of shit becuase most well to do people I know dont have irrational unfounded hatred of inanimate objects.
I could be wrong though, it certainly wouldnt be the first time.

More to the point, I agree with you. But I prefer to let the market lead. Lets get down to brass tacks here my friend.
WE ARE FUCKED.

Banning SUV's is a drop of a drop in the bucket. Its too late. This 18 wheeler is on the highway to hell at breakneck speed and the brakes are blown out of it. At this point our only hope is to let the market lead us.
When gas becomes more expensive, people will stop driving SUV's. When gas becomes really expensive, people will move to alternative modes of transportation.
But to enact laws to tell people what to and not to do, I dont hold these as principles good men should hold to.
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Re: The "I Hate SUVs" thread

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