[Revi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sicophiliac', 'W')ell we have had quite a few posts since I made my comment about an electric heater, my point being that all though its inefficient given that your converting heat to electricity, feeding it through a line and then converting it back to heat that electricity is still cheap, night time load on the grid is typically very low am I right? I mean there are plenty of options to produce electricity.. wind, solar, tidal..coal ect ect. Anyways my idea was if and when times get tough designate one very well insulated room for sleeping with a good electric heater in there. Several bunk beds with multiple people would add some body heat as well. Perhaps people could line the walls and the windows with heavy blankets or something and wear plenty of warm cloths to keep warm too. I mean come on.. the Eskimo's lived for thousands of years along the arctic circle.. early humans survived for tens of thousands of years in Europe.. during the ice age no less. Can it be that hard for people to find someways to keep warm in modern times? I am starting to think these spoiled cry babies want to sit around the house in their boxer shorts and a tank top drinking coffee when its 20 below zero outside.

[oilluber]

i thought "borrowing" was supposed to go out of favor
due to the subprime mess.

[misterno]

Sooner or later PO will happen this is a fact

When PO happens, we will see energy prices going up substantially.

When oil and gas goes up, coal and wood will go up too.

As a result, you will see massive immigration from north of america to southern states.
THIS WILL DEFINITELY HAPPEN

[lateStarter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('misterno', 'S')ooner or later PO will happen this is a fact

When PO happens, we will see energy prices going up substantially.

When oil and gas goes up, coal and wood will go up too.

As a result, you will see massive immigration from north of america to southern states.
THIS WILL DEFINITELY HAPPEN

[lawnchair]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('misterno', '
')As a result, you will see massive immigration from north of america to southern states.
THIS WILL DEFINITELY HAPPEN

[Revi]

I kinda agree with Mr. No. I don't think they'll all go to Florida, but they will all cluster near the few places that still can afford oil. Here in Maine we are already seeing it. Our population gain is slowing down big time. I was just up north of here and there were a lot of people living where there is only paper company land now. There were old roads we skiied on that were farm lanes at the beginning of the last century.

Who is going to want to cut 10 cords of wood just to stay warm? I cut around 3 cords a year and it's all I can do.

If people have any sense, they'll go south. Us fools will stay here and keep cutting wood, until our backs give out.

[Blacksmith]

American burrow for everything else, why not heat.

Four cords of aspen and black poplar does me fine for the winter, but then again I only have 1000 ft2. Right now its -22 degrees F, -30 degrees C.

[Revi]

We only have around 1000 sq. ft. GLAAG, but I cut a cord and a half for the sugarhouse as well as a cord and a half to keep the home fire burning.

It's a long winter around here, but I'm sure it is up there as well.

I just heard a program where the Governor is reccomending setting up warming centers in each town if we can't get people heating oil late this winter and next.

http://www.211maine.org/

At least we have people in the Governor's office who are planning for what is going to happen. I think the folks in DC have their heads up their butts, but the State of Maine is planning for what will be a major disaster. It already is for some people.

[vision-master]

My Sister has one of those leaky old country farm houses. She was trying to squeak by till next winter. Well, with this lovey spring weather (freezing at night still) she ran the tank dry yesterday.

Minimum fuel oil purchase:

125 gal was............ drum roll........................

























$490 :shocked:

[RonMN]

Might as well fill 'er up...prices ain't gonna be any cheaper in the fall.

[SpringCreekFarm]

Oh man...that sucks. That is what scares me, the heating situation. Not for myself but for my neighbours and friends and other family members.

I think everyone should buy a wood stove. It doesn't even matter if you have a chimney. Using one outside is preferable to a barrel or freezing to death.

It looks like this year there are two farm commodities I have to really concentrate on. Wood ( cut lots ) and hay.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RonMN', 'M')ight as well fill 'er up...prices ain't gonna be any cheaper in the fall.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SpringCreekFarm', 'O')h man...that sucks. That is what scares me, the heating situation. Not for myself but for my neighbours and friends and other family members.

I think everyone should buy a wood stove. It doesn't even matter if you have a chimney. Using one outside is preferable to a barrel or freezing to death.

It looks like this year there are two farm commodities I have to really concentrate on. Wood ( cut lots ) and hay.

[JPL]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')The brother is getting 15 cords of slabs (sawmill) for $25 each. He figures the price will skyrocket soon.

[Fishman]

15 CORDS as in 15 4ftx4ftx8ft cords? For $25? That sounds like a good deal to me. Our last house had a wood stove, haven't talked my better half into one at our present location yet.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fishman', '1')5 CORDS as in 15 4ftx4ftx8ft cords? For $25? That sounds like a good deal to me. Our last house had a wood stove, haven't talked my better half into one at our present location yet.

[RonMN]

This thread is another reminder that I need to pick myself up a really good snow-mobile suit!

[IanC]

I love wood heat, but I also love the forests.

Let's make sure the stampede to keep ourselves warm in the winter does not destroy the last of our forests, okay?

I'm for tree farms. Oregon's Willamette valley has lots of them and will probably make lots of pellets 'n stuff in the future.

-Ian

[Revi]

We are going to get an 8 cord load and cut it up ourselves. We can't get anything like that price, but we're going for hardwood.

We still have a bunch that we cut out of the woodlot the winter before this last one.

A woodstove is a great idea, but install it properly. It's not worth burning the house down to save on the oil bill. It's not that hard to do. Get a through the wall kit and follow the instructions in there. Cut out any wood that is near the two thimbles.

It works. I think you can still find a lot of perfectly good wood for free.

I tried to lock in on heating oil, and they won't let me. I heard that another company was locking in at $3.59, but mine hasn't offered it yet. Chickens!

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'M')y Sister has one of those leaky old country farm houses. She was trying to squeak by till next winter. Well, with this lovey spring weather (freezing at night still) she ran the tank dry yesterday.

Minimum fuel oil purchase:

125 gal was............ drum roll........................

$490 :shocked: