[TITAN]

Rove and I actually agree on something...

[Cloud9]

More than half the population believes in angels. Forget that at your political peril.

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'M')ore than half the population believes in angels. Forget that at your political peril.

[0mar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'M')ore than half the population believes in angels. Forget that at your political peril.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', 'I') believe in Angels, God, the Seal of Prophets and all that other stuff, and at the same time, I'm also a biologist/bioengineer.

[0mar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', 'I') believe in Angels, God, the Seal of Prophets and all that other stuff, and at the same time, I'm also a biologist/bioengineer.

[0mar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'T')hat's nice Omar. I like to try to keep my veggies out of my gravy too, but they both end up in the same place, my stomach.

[gg3]

But as you describe it, Omar, the Islamic creation story also reflects a fundamental truth: "a flash of light and then everything was created" sounds the way someone 1500 years ago, who looked up into the night sky and suddenly had a deep insight into the nature of things, would describe the Big Bang.

Consider the Native American terms, "silver bird," and "iron horse," for airplane and locomotive respectively. The latter even became adopted into English. These terms reflect fundamental insights into the nature of each of these technologies. And lest we be tempted to dismiss them as the words of "primitives," let's not forget that Western languages do exactly the same thing: a common German word for telephone transliterates to "far-speaker," and a common Spanish word for computer transliterates to "counting machine." General intelligence follows the same normal curve irrespective of time and technology.
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As for Rove, for once he's right. Robertson and Falwell, live on television as the World Trade towers burned and then fell, on the monitors directly behind them in their studio, said that God brought this upon us as punishment for tolerating gays and abortions: a sentiment no less treasonous than to suggest that Pearl Harbor was God's retaliation for the repeal of Prohibition.

Dobson is so obsessed with gays that he prescribes, as a preventive, for fathers to shower naked with their early-teenage sons and show them what's what: the very idea of which is downright gross, the workings of a warped mind.

So yes, those particular "Christian" leaders are nutters, nutjobs, nutcases, however you want to put it. And they do a huge disservice to people of good faith.

Kuo came in as an idealist who believed that compassionate conservatism would enable churches to take care of the poor, "the least among us." He got wrapped up in the politicization of religion for a while. Now he has concluded, in language surprisingly similar to my own about such things, that it has been an unholy "merger of the sacred and the profane." So he's blowing the whistle on cynicism in high places, and good for him doing so.

But the fact remains, Robertson, Falwell, and Dobson, and their ilk in general, are truly sick, sick puppies.

[Cloud9]

My point was that any politician that takes religion lightly does so at his own peril. The ACLU’s bent to scrub “In God we trust,” off the public edifice has done more to mobilize the Christian right than any other factor. The Christian right feels besieged and that feeling has caused them to mobilize. Whether or not you buy into their belief system is immaterial. Their numbers and their faith make them a force to be reckoned with.

[Laughs_Last]

This will scare the hiccups out of anybody: Karl Rove dancing and rapping on YouTube.

Merged with Karl Rove thread.-FL

[jeezlouise]

*cringe*

Saw that last night... I couldn't even look straight at it the whole time. Nice to see he's getting one last extremely awkward and pasty-white jig in before all hell breaks loose.

[mekrob]

Stewart had this on his show last night. Too fucking unbelievably funny.

[Laughs_Last]

Funny? If I hadn't been wearing a pirate eye patch, I'd be blind in both eyes.

[holmes]

and they applaud. One big feeding frenzy and ponzi scam. Your seeing the top of pyrimids right there. Well the henchmen for the top anyway. tac nuke would work well on that convention center. And they direct our military. Talk about brain washed. I would never step foot in the military now knowing that these pudgy fat fingered pigs are in charge. Its unbelievable that these "comedians" have so much serious responsibilities. God help us all. people better pray that the oil keeps flowing into our bloated hulking bodies. its carnage after it goes. Sorry your little johnny is going to be savaged. Think these creeps care about you? Ha!

[holmes]

Oh yeah wait conservation, biodrools and ECO friendly devices will save the day! Keep the bad bad people from getting little Johnny and my widdle white picket fence family. Buwhahahaha! Rove my god.

[lateStarter]

I'm not even going to look. That fat f*ck should be crucified on the Whitehouse lawn. I can only hope that he gets whats coming to him in the end! He is so repulsive, it makes me want to kill myself for even being a member of the same species.

[jeezlouise]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateStarter', ' ')I can only hope that he gets whats coming to him in the end!

[gg3]

God Almighty!, LaughsLast, did you have to post that opening sentence without a nausea warning?! Here I'm peacefully eating dinner (pizza!, yum!) whilst reading all the cheerful stuff here about the end of the world, and then I run across the intro to this topic:

"Karl Rove dancing and rapping."

I didn't even have to click the link, even the thought of it was too much for my stomach. Blaaarrrgggggh!!!! Dude, you owe me a keyboard. Now I've got to go get the sponge and the mop and clean up the rest of the puke on my desk and the floor. Thanks a bunch.