[lardlad]

Yes, I hate them. Always have. Their defenders bleat about how much safer they are, how their precious children are protected by the tank-like aspects of the damn things.

Now comes research that blasts that nonsense out of the water:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')HICAGO (Reuters) - Sports utility vehicles do not offer child passengers added protection in a crash compared to cars because SUVs are more likely to roll over in an accident, researchers said on Tuesday. "Contrary to public perception, SUVs do not provide superior protection to child occupants, compared with passenger cars," wrote lead author Dr. Lauren Daly of A.I. Dupont Hospital for Children in Wilmington, Delaware.

[Specop_007]

We've been through this before.
only idiots and assholes blindly accept those slanted articles.

What are you?

[holmes]

Spec u know I like u alot however I do have to agree with the Dummer slogan. These dummer vehicles are really pathetic. and It does seem to be true that these owners do not take personal responsibility with their energy use. I just want the most consumtive individuals and families to be trained for war and sent to our resource wars. So yes I would accept a monitoring of our energy uses to find out just who is guzzling the resources we are ramping up to war for.
as someone who will ahve maybe one child and really monitors my energy use I do not want to pay for the unsustainable vices of my fellow citizens. This is happening now with welfare and subsidies. So yes if they all want their personal tanks, fine. but they must do the dirty work. leave me out of it. That would mean have me pay less or no taxes. as of now the guzzlers pay less with subsidies. The governemnt supports consumption. Have mroe kids and more stuff you get breaks cuz u are feeding the economy. Conserve u get to pay more not less.
Ecological economics would take care of this. U consume and waste more you pay more, etc..

[mekrob]

GODDAMNIT, I HATE 'EM SUV's. I HATE 'EM I HATE 'EM I HATE 'EM.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', 'G')ODDAMNIT, I HATE 'EM SUV's. I HATE 'EM I HATE 'EM I HATE 'EM.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', 'G')ODDAMNIT, I HATE 'EM SUV's. I HATE 'EM I HATE 'EM I HATE 'EM.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', 'G')ODDAMNIT, I HATE 'EM SUV's. I HATE 'EM I HATE 'EM I HATE 'EM.

[killJOY]

One can hate SUVs for their vanity, gargantuanism, waste, fraudulent masculinity, etc., but the fact is the drivers of those SUVs are going to be suffering profoundly in the next three years. Listen to this Robert Hirsch interview and count yourself lucky that you don't own one of those hideosities yourself.

[Yossarian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'W')e've been through this before.
only idiots and assholes blindly accept those slanted articles.

What are you?

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')Though the added weight of SUVs conferred some protection in non-rollover accidents, the vehicles were twice as likely as cars to roll over during a wreck, the report published in the journal Pediatrics said."

[SinisterBlueCat]

We have a suburban. We need it for work, we travel 6 times a year across the country jammed full all of our supplies. It is good for that.

In town, we drive our little car...who wants to waste money going to the grocery store in a huge behemoth?

So, I do not hate them (how does one hate an inanimate object, anyway?) as they have their uses.

What I hate is people the get them for status. They are usually not hard to spot, they are the ones driving everywhere in their perfectly pristine and constantly fresh washed vehicle. We will see how much status those things afford them when gas goes over 3 gallon later this spring.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'S')pec u know I like u alot however I do have to agree with the Dummer slogan. These dummer vehicles are really pathetic. and It does seem to be true that these owners do not take personal responsibility with their energy use.

[holmes]

I say port the cargoe ships, fill em up with the suvs, owners and families and send em to the desert and front lines. Build a bloated suv battalion. They can be used for combat. and the big tires would work well in the sand. Nope have others fight for them.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yossarian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'W')e've been through this before.
only idiots and assholes blindly accept those slanted articles.

What are you?

[Yossarian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')And any 3rd grader would ask
"Were they wearing their seatbelts?"

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yossarian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')And any 3rd grader would ask
"Were they wearing their seatbelts?"

[Specop_007]

Ok, I read it. It doesnt answer my question. It states this...

"The highest odds of injury occurred among children riding unbelted in an SUV that rolled over.

Another strong risk factor for children age 13 or younger was from an air bag deploying while they rode in the front seat, and Daly recommended children always ride in rear seats. "

Well no shit. Theres not a vehicle on the road thats "safe" in a rollover with no seatbelt.

I want to know of those injuries what percentage are sustained by children who are wearing their seatbelt and what is the percentage of similiar injureis in children wearing seatbelts in other passenger cars.

Otherwise, we're just being fed media bullshit and lapping it up with a spoon.

And I dont eat shit. And I call it when I smell it, and something dont smell right about that article.

[lardlad]

Well, maybe many Americans need SUVs to accommodate their vast bodies?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Car seats supersized to fit American bums
James Bone, New York
December 30, 2005

AMERICANS who gorged themselves at Christmas parties can take solace from the thought that the journey home will soon be more comfortable. Foreign car-makers are widening the seats to accommodate the spreading American bottom.

The front seats of Honda's 2006 Civic are 2cm wider than this year's model. Subaru's new B9 Tribeca, designed for the US market, offers front-seat passengers an extra 1.3cm over other models in the line. Mercedes Benz's R-Class Grand Sports Tourer gives front-seat riders 2.5cm of extra girth over its M-Class.

[Yossarian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'O')k, I read it. It doesnt answer my question. It states this...

"The highest odds of injury occurred among children riding unbelted in an SUV that rolled over.

Another strong risk factor for children age 13 or younger was from an air bag deploying while they rode in the front seat, and Daly recommended children always ride in rear seats. "

Well no shit. Theres not a vehicle on the road thats "safe" in a rollover with no seatbelt.

I want to know of those injuries what percentage are sustained by children who are wearing their seatbelt and what is the percentage of similiar injureis in children wearing seatbelts in other passenger cars.

[lardlad]

One of the biggest problems with SUVs is the fact that they are built on truck frames that do not deform to absorb impact in an accident. The H-frame is rigid for carrying load. Without any crumple zones, all forces of the accident are transmitted to the occupants. Now since most cars on the road today in the USA are SUVs, your chances of hitting or being hit by another SUV is very high, exacerbating this situation even further.

SUVs are simply a bad, bad idea. They need to be removed from the road asap.