[Antimatter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')y gut feeling is that is probably cost effective now or will be in short period of time to generate ammonia using electricity.

[BabyPeanut]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'T')he pieces are all on the table...Have you noticed grain prices really haven't done much for all this negativity...?

[EnergySpin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Antimatter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')y gut feeling is that is probably cost effective now or will be in short period of time to generate ammonia using electricity.

[Starvid]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Antimatter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')y gut feeling is that is probably cost effective now or will be in short period of time to generate ammonia using electricity.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('aahala', 'I') can understand higher input costs can reduce profit, but I don't understand why the appropriate approach would be to reduce production.

[Gary]

Who was it who said the following?

"Modern agriculture is the art of using land to make food from petroleum."

I've quoted from memory, but I think that's fairly close.

More accurate statement: modern agriculture is the art of using land to make food from fossil fuels.

[Armageddon]

does anyone have any info about these ? i am just starting to research them. thanks.

sorry mods, didnt know where to put this thread, and current events is my favorite thread category

[Armageddon]

brand, price, how many sq ft can they heat, ventilation, how much corn do they use, how much does corn cost, etc. lol, sorry

[pip]

I bought an Amaizablaze last summer. It's working out very well for me. It's been heating the whole house until the 0 degree temps of a few days ago when I had to kick on the natural gas to help it out a little. I've used about 45 bushels of corn so far this year. What exactly would you like to know?

[pip]

We posted at the same time. For those questions:

Mine’s heating 2100 ft^2 with a 50,000 BTU stove usually running below half on the corn feed rate. Average winter lows in my area are about 20F. Stove costed around $2300. It’s a fireplace insert model and vents through a flexible metal pipe that sticks up the chimney past the damper. I went to a grain elevator and bought my corn, just had them load the back of my pickup with the truck loading spout. A pickup bed will hold around 55 bushels if anyone was wondering about that. That’s about 3,100 pounds so my ½ ton pickup was loaded up good. They charged 40 cents over the spot corn price which is running around $2.00/bushel.

[Armageddon]

sounds pretty good, thanks. i have two fireplaces in my house and am thinking about either converting one of them with an insert, or just buying one of those free standing types. It would be nice in the sunroom upstairs and seems it may heat a large area. 2,300.00 seems reasonable, but i wonder what the availability is this time of year. also, i wonder what the availability of corn is now, and later if people start converting to these. im not really a corn expert.

[Armageddon]

these cornstoves look cool. i would like to start a cornstove business where i live. people would go crazy over these things. any investors ? lol

[JBinKC]

I think corn stoves are a great idea to save money if you are a farmer and/or have adequate storage facilities with a cheap access to corn. Besides the stove needing electricity to operate I would think the big potential drawback to corn is potential rodent infestation.

[frankthetank]

Want to know why?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')SDA projected 2005 U.S. corn plantings at 78.019 million acres, below the
average trade estimate of 80.576 million. This figure is well below the 2005
season, when 81.759 million acres were seeded.

USDA said the corn plantings if realized would be the lowest U.S. corn
acreage since 2001, citing farmer intentions to plant less intensive crops due
to fertilizer and fuel costs.

[Daculling]

I think this is how the farmer passes the increased cost onto the consumer.

High fuel cost -> Less corn -> Higher corn cost

How come the "ethanol solution" is not taking up the slack? I don't know... but I suspect the subsidies at the ethanol production level are not trickling down to the corn market. And yes, I know corn is subsidized as well.

Just my thoughts... I really don't know much so correct me please.

[Ludi]

That's good news. Corn is very hard on the soil.

[Leanan]

This is to be expected. Many farmers are using planting methods that use less fertilizer and fuel, like no-till. The disadvantage is lower yields. Others are growing crops that don't need as much fertlizer as corn does.

As for ethanol...I suspect this is an indication that ethanol still is not economical, even with oil at $65/barrel.

[Ancien_Opus]

It takes a lot of nitrogen fertilizer (natural gas) to plant corn. Nitrogen fertilizer cost is up as is the fuel to apply the fertilizer, plus the herbicides and pesticides. The back of the envelope calculations that a lot of farmers are doing is saying soy beans. Soybeans are drought resitant and nitrify the soil. At roughly $6.00 per bushel and a good yeild of 50 bushels per acre its $300/ acre. Corn at $2.50 per acre and a good yeild of 150 bushels per acre its $325/acre. Then you remove all your additional cost the soybeans turn out to be a slightly better deal. Simply put revenue does not mean profit. In a capital intensive operation like farming you're not around long if you can't figure this out.

[Novus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', '
')
As for ethanol...I suspect this is an indication that ethanol still is not economical, even with oil at $65/barrel.

[Daculling]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', '
')
As for ethanol...I suspect this is an indication that ethanol still is not economical, even with oil at $65/barrel.