General discussions of the systemic, societal and civilisational effects of depletion.
by Xyricolev » Sun 10 Feb 2013, 14:38:36
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xyricolev', 'Y')eah...funny thing about that. Today's price of a barrel of oil: $95.72.
The claim made was that the price is at an all time high.
Except that it's been higher in the past.
By definition then, today's price can't be an all time high, right? (unless you know of some other definition of that term?).
So much for my being a liar.
You are a liar, or are just plain dumb to make those claims. I would have been a complete idiot to claim $95.72 was an all-time high oil price. I showed you a chart (something any child should grasp) to make a simple point; that Inflation-adjusted oil prices hit, and remain, at all time high records.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xyricolev', 'A')s to the other...fraking tech has been around for decades. So have your other two examples where you supposedly "proved me wrong." So since all three have "been around for decades" obviously you can magically call one a new game changer, and dismiss the other two, right?
And THIS is your idea of "debunking me?"
I said the high price of conventional oil is the game changer. The high price of conventional oil, not some magical technological improvement, was the primary reason that we have resorted to playing in old tight-shale fields.
You claimed other recent fracking" components" made have made the business profitable. I asked what those new technologies are? You still have not answered me. You are a phony and don't really know anything about oil production. It appears you believe progress (not desperation) accounts for our interest in unconventional liquids, yet are incapable of elucidating said technological improvement. I showed you are wrong. You are a wuss.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Xyricolev', 'L')OL...wow...you've really been hitting the sauce eh? What...when the doomathon didn't happen on the re-re-re-(etc) revised schedule, I guess it kinda got to you, eh?
And even discounting all that, the fact still remains that oil production broke (another) new record, here 5+ into our supposed post peak nightmare.
Now...are you gonna answer my questions, or do you prefer just making yourself look stupid by saying things that can be disproved in less than thirty seconds with any search engine?

I'll answer your questions, when you ask one of me. You haven't yet---rather you scatter shot insulting rhetorical questions to an imaginary audience. Ask ME question. Or are you here just to insult people?
It seems you don't understand the predicament that seven billion (and growing) humans have brought to the planet and our own species. Only a creationist republican tea-bagger does not see what our demands on the planet have wrought Man up and take responsibility. It is not just oil, dipsh#t. Lots of crucial natural capital is in decline--fisheries, good timber for building homes, phosphorus, lead, copper, rare-earth metals, other species. You name it; technological fairy dust is coming up short.
Your short stay here has been characterized a childish attention-starved display of ignorance. Get it together little boy and find something interesting or mommy is going to take away you tricycle. And then no more playground.
Okayf Pstarr...look fella, I can't really help it if you're an idiot of the first order, but I'll step thru the progression for you.
I was not talking to you initially, but to a poster named dorlomin (see above discussion thread).
She made the claim in response to my posted link with yesterday's oil price that it was (her words)
Record high price. I responded that given higher prices in the past, it was simply rediculous and illogical to call yesterday's price "a record high."
That's when YOU jumped in with your spiffy graph, which only served to reinforce what I was saying....so please, do tell! How does that make me a liar?
I get that you're an angry little man.
I get that you're quick to jump toward the throat of anyone who disagrees with you and brand them a liar...except that anybody with third grade reading comprehension skills can go back and look at the thread and see you're just blowing smoke up your own arse.
If that's your idea of fun...have at it, but stop wasting my time, okay?
Also in response to that discussion with dorlomin that did not involve you in any way, she mentioned that frakking tech was decades old, and it was this new higher price of oil (the record high) that made frakking suddenly profitable.
Except that the price ISN'T a record high, which makes the argument a little silly (it's been higher before, and frakiing only just became profitable).
Then YOU jumped in with some additional decades old tech, claiming that frakking (decades old) was the new game changer, while the other two you mentioned (also decades old) could be dismissed as nothing new.
You're not even being COHERENT, Pstarr. Letting that anger get the better of you I reckon.

I feel bad, but seriously, if you're going to insist on shooting yourself in the foot, I'll be more than happy to watch you do it.
That also hasn't changed since my last stint here...all that rage and frustration....all the years of practice and you're no better than you were back then? That's so sad!
In any case, by all means, please continue! It's been most amusing to watch you chase your tail!
By the way...you DO realize that NONE of this in any way counters the fact that we're breaking new production records in what's supposed to be ~5 years into our post peak nightmare, right?
Next time you leap to the attack and call someone a liar, you might want to employ just a smidge of reading comprehension, McGenius. This, however, is merely a suggestion. Honestly, it's more entertaining when you don't, so suit yourself!
edit: oh...and as to my questions...again, reading comp. I've asked you two (twice). I'll ask them again. To you specifically.
Here they are:
And what's the latest re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re revised date for "teh end of dayz?" Do tell!
And a bonus question if you're feeling especially brave. Given that exactly NONE of Team Doom's predictions have come to pass, even with multiple revisions on the doom date...how is it that you're still utterly convinced it'll be any day now that the "cornies" will be the ones with egg on their faces?