by Sixstrings » Fri 04 Jul 2014, 09:47:37
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Beery1', 'Y')eah, well, when the Republicans sold arms for hostages and funded contras in Nicaragua and the folks behind it got pardons, it kinda allowed folks in the political center and left to get jaded. Where was the Right's outrage when Republicans did that? AWOL, that's where.
Pot, meet Kettle. That's why.
And that's the problem with party loyalty and partisanship.
It's better, and more intellectually honest to just be independent and free to call it like you see it.
Fast and furious should have been a moral outrage, that's amoral selling guns to drug cartels -- hello? It's just an outrage.
We ain't talkin' Nicaragua. We're talking about across the border and the cartels bringing the guns US gov sold them to America and someone got shot over here with one of those guns.
And that's supposed to just be okay? Like "look they shot someone with one of these guns we've put out on the streets so now we can trace it and get a prosecution on the books."
It was just insane. Should be a concern to anybody, doesn't matter your party, when the police cross the line into ENCOURAGING crime so they can "fight it." It's like the prison industrial complex, when law enforcement becomes a BUSINESS needing new markets.
It's police excess, it's like when entrapment goes too far, and it's a very important principle here whether one is left or right.
Being objective, this was a regional ATF office, I don't know how far up the chain that decision was made on this program. But this is Obama's administration that's supposed to be handling the executive branch.
Was it ever really looked into?Because of hyper partisanship, Obama can never even admit to something patently very wrong done in his administration. And now, IRS emails and crashed computers and missing emails or whatever.
Democrats, and the Obama admin itself, excuse defensiveness (thin line there between that and coverup) because they feel under assault by the GOP all the time. But it's not leadership. The buck is supposed to "stop here."
I don't even know if fast and furious was ever gotten to the bottom of, was anyone reprimanded, and it wasn't criminal but whoever came up with that idea should have been fired. There needed to be consequences, and lessons learned, so it does not happen again.