$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kabu', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kabu', '
')Right now I'm living in Sao Paulo, Brazil, and by comparison, racism seems to hardly exists. It does exist, though. It's mostly reserved for the darkest of Brazil's negros, like all the Nigerians or Angolans that reside here. My girlfriend is multato, so I don't get to witness it much, unless we travel to the more primitive parts of SA.
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Re: Why do White nationalists luv Peak oil?
by undertaker » Wed 27 Jun 2007, 00:03:56
I've heard that about Brazil, that people are just .... people, and a little lighter, a little darker, who cares?
Basically the fight is between classes, groups that traditionally hold certain positions and occupations and others trying to break in, etc. In the US we use "race" to hide that.
Yeah, it's really cool. At my girlfriend's family get-togethers, you'll see different mixtures of white, black, indian, and yellow. The same goes for groups of friends. Colour means very little to them. Like you said, they're all just... people.
A struggle against class is what exists here, as it should. I'm sure you've heard of Brazil's humongous Landless Workers' Movement? We don't see much of it inside of Sao Paulo, but that definitely speaks for what the people have going on, in Brazil!
Yes, there's a certain freedom in having "nothing (genetically) left to lose." Once you are mongrelized, you don't have the concerns any more.
Economics is real, but so is physical evolution. White people were created from tens of thousands of years of surviving Ice Ages. Worldwide every race agrees that people of the Nordic racial type are the most beautiful people there are, with other variations of Ice Age Europeans such as Celts, Saxons, Teutons, Alpines and the like following closely.
If I'm wrong, why didn't Tiger Woods go find himself another Cablinasian, or a "hot Latina" or something? He went and got the most Nordic woman possible.
I want to preserve the Nordic racial type, as well as other European racial types. Race-mixing kills this beauty, and homogenizes formerly pure racial types into "cablinasians" or some such mix.
At root, my struggle is aesthetic. If that makes me "shallow" so be it. Economics has nothing to do with it.
Why is it impossible to be opposed to race mixing but in favor of economic fairness? After all, it has always been pure European racial types that cared about things like ending slavery and human rights. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights was thought up by a lily-white group of people. Africans have not abolished slavery; nor have Brazilians or Asians. Only White people actually fight against slavery. I myself fight against slavery by growing my own food.
If you miscegenate Whites out of existence, there will be no one left to care about human rights and abolition of slavery. Look at Tiger Woods. He's a multi-gazillionaire, and yet he wears the mark of the beast Nike cap, while Nike pays slave wages to 12 year old girls in Asia. The Cablinasian doesn't give a shit. He doesn't speak out against it. He buys himself a Nordic hoe and puts the little white ball into the hole and collects his millions.
The European racial type is worth saving. Anyone who disagrees with me, I'll be happy to send you a shiny new straight razor and a set of instructions.
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hey idealists, read this
by undertaker » Wed 27 Jun 2007, 00:08:42
http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE_Frame_Column.htm
Half-Assed in Haggledom
Economic Laws for the Real World
June 9, 2007
Why are Third-World countries poor, while those in the First World aren’t? (The phrase “third world” is a tad shaky, embracing as it seems to Taiwan, Thailand, and Mexico, and also Haiti and Zaire. We will use it for convenience.)
The standard explanation in the Third World is that the West, chiefly the United States, exploits them, buying their raw materials and selling them manufactured goods. Everything is someone else’s fault. The reasons I think are otherwise. The advanced nations will exploit anyone they can, but this hasn’t kept Japan, Singapore, Taiwan, Argentina, and many other countries from prospering.
Start with corruption. In many poor countries, virtually everything is for sale. You can bribe the cops to get out of a ticket or bribe them to beat up an enemy, bribe a general in the army to overlook illegal logging, bribe anybody to do anything. The result is that really the country barely has laws, which means that you can never be sure of your legal ground. Businesses need predictability.
Corruption exists in advanced counters, but there is less of it, and it tends to take organized form, as in campaign contributions, affirmative action, and seats of boards of directors after leaving office.
Suspected Economic Law: The easier it is to bribe a working-stiff cop, the poorer the country.
Sheer governmental inefficiency has much to do with it. When I was in Taiwan many years ago, when the country was first developing, I talked to an American businessman about Asia. Taiwan, he said, had Enterprise Zones, fenced regions with buildings and utilities in place. You signed one document, brought in your machinery, hired workers, and started production.
In Thailand, he said (it may no longer be true) you had to negotiate for months with the Interior Ministry to get land, then months with the Labor Ministry, then months, then months, meanwhile bribing everybody right and left. I’ve got the names of the ministries wrong, but you get the point.
Suspected Economic Law: Prosperity varies inversely with the time between beginning negotiations to open a factory and getting first product.
While inefficient government retards economic progress, it doesn’t follow that countries with inefficient governments will always be poor. Industry in the United States has been so productive that, although the government is worse than useless, the country can withstand it.
A serious obstacle to prosperity is Half-Assedness, a quality not widely recognized in econometrics but well known to experienced travelers. Half-Assedness is a curious mixture of just not giving a damn, lack of ambition, little interest in academics, and sometimes something that looks like lethargy.
You go into houses and never see books. A man will start a garage to repair cars for a living. He won’t think of expanding and owning a chain of garages. His family has enough to eat, so why do more? The young, though they could pursue school beyond some pre-high school level, don’t. They marry early instead of establishing themselves first. They live in the present, whereas people in rich countries have one foot in the future. An American thinks college, grad school, career. He is going somewhere, or trying to. He may not adhere to his plan, but he has one.
An element of Half-Assedness is a slack attitude toward maintenance. People who could easily afford nineteen cents for a brake-light bulb don’t. They throw trash in the streets. Potholes go unprepared for years.
Suspected Economic Law: National income is inversely proportional to the amount of trash in the streets.
Another aspect of Half-Assedness is an incapacity to attach importance to time. This comes in two flavors, wholesale and retail. At the wholesale level, an American thinks, “Oh my god, I’m thirty and haven't made partner.” A Third-Worlder lacks any sense of urgency. He sees existence as a period through which one passes instead of an interval in which one does things.
At time’s retail level, Third-Worlder’s think that four o’clock means anywhere from five-thirty to not at all. It isn’t rudeness or inconsideration. If you do it to them, they won’t be offended. By contrast, an American reporter, say, knows that if his nine-o’clock interview happens at nine, the one at eleven will be possible, and the business lunch will come off on time, so that he can hit the computer by three and file at five. It works. Americans show up ten minutes early and wait. In the Third World, writing the same story would take three days instead of one.
Suspected Economic law: Per capita income correlates with the average number of minutes by which people miss appointments.
In the Third World there is a different attitude to commerce. An American businessman is likely to give a new client a good price, or at least the going price, in hopes of acquiring him as a regular customer. If in the Third World a European gets a haircut without asking the price, he will be charged eight dollars when the correct price is four dollars. He will never come back.
This is normal third-world economics—gouge the customer to the max without thought of the future. The practice is encouraged by the reliance on haggling in poor countries. I have sometimes wondered whether this doesn’t make tricking the customer more important than having a good product.
Suspected Economic Law: Countries that bargain have less money than those that don’t.
The what-me-care attitude can be, to an American, incomprehensible. You want a roof job that would cost several thousand dollars, a lot of money in many countries. The workmen promise to come the next day to give you an estimate. They don’t show. You call, and they say, well, my car broke. Next day, same thing. They got to your town but couldn’t find the house. And so on. So you go to Wal-Mart or Home Depot or some similar First-World enterprise and get the job done.
Another element of Half-Assedness is, depending on your politics, cultural or inherent, but unmistakable. Some populations just aren’t very bright, or at any rate don’t seem to be. Sub-Saharan Africa, though rich in resources, is pea-turkey poor and not improving. Arab countries, even when awash in oil money, do not establish First World societies that could survive without oil. In South America the white countries, such as Chile and Argentina, could be in Europe. The highly Indian countries, as for example Bolivia and Peru, would be basket cases if they could afford the basket.
Suspected Economic Law: The more European or East Asian blood, the more money.
That’s Fred on economics. Lynch mobs may take a number.
Half-Assed in Haggledom
Economic Laws for the Real World
June 9, 2007
Why are Third-World countries poor, while those in the First World aren’t? (The phrase “third world” is a tad shaky, embracing as it seems to Taiwan, Thailand, and Mexico, and also Haiti and Zaire. We will use it for convenience.)
The standard explanation in the Third World is that the West, chiefly the United States, exploits them, buying their raw materials and selling them manufactured goods. Everything is someone else’s fault. The reasons I think are otherwise. The advanced nations will exploit anyone they can, but this hasn’t kept Japan, Singapore, Taiwan, Argentina, and many other countries from prospering.
Start with corruption. In many poor countries, virtually everything is for sale. You can bribe the cops to get out of a ticket or bribe them to beat up an enemy, bribe a general in the army to overlook illegal logging, bribe anybody to do anything. The result is that really the country barely has laws, which means that you can never be sure of your legal ground. Businesses need predictability.
Corruption exists in advanced counters, but there is less of it, and it tends to take organized form, as in campaign contributions, affirmative action, and seats of boards of directors after leaving office.
Suspected Economic Law: The easier it is to bribe a working-stiff cop, the poorer the country.
Sheer governmental inefficiency has much to do with it. When I was in Taiwan many years ago, when the country was first developing, I talked to an American businessman about Asia. Taiwan, he said, had Enterprise Zones, fenced regions with buildings and utilities in place. You signed one document, brought in your machinery, hired workers, and started production.
In Thailand, he said (it may no longer be true) you had to negotiate for months with the Interior Ministry to get land, then months with the Labor Ministry, then months, then months, meanwhile bribing everybody right and left. I’ve got the names of the ministries wrong, but you get the point.
Suspected Economic Law: Prosperity varies inversely with the time between beginning negotiations to open a factory and getting first product.
While inefficient government retards economic progress, it doesn’t follow that countries with inefficient governments will always be poor. Industry in the United States has been so productive that, although the government is worse than useless, the country can withstand it.
A serious obstacle to prosperity is Half-Assedness, a quality not widely recognized in econometrics but well known to experienced travelers. Half-Assedness is a curious mixture of just not giving a damn, lack of ambition, little interest in academics, and sometimes something that looks like lethargy.
You go into houses and never see books. A man will start a garage to repair cars for a living. He won’t think of expanding and owning a chain of garages. His family has enough to eat, so why do more? The young, though they could pursue school beyond some pre-high school level, don’t. They marry early instead of establishing themselves first. They live in the present, whereas people in rich countries have one foot in the future. An American thinks college, grad school, career. He is going somewhere, or trying to. He may not adhere to his plan, but he has one.
An element of Half-Assedness is a slack attitude toward maintenance. People who could easily afford nineteen cents for a brake-light bulb don’t. They throw trash in the streets. Potholes go unprepared for years.
Suspected Economic Law: National income is inversely proportional to the amount of trash in the streets.
Another aspect of Half-Assedness is an incapacity to attach importance to time. This comes in two flavors, wholesale and retail. At the wholesale level, an American thinks, “Oh my god, I’m thirty and haven't made partner.” A Third-Worlder lacks any sense of urgency. He sees existence as a period through which one passes instead of an interval in which one does things.
At time’s retail level, Third-Worlder’s think that four o’clock means anywhere from five-thirty to not at all. It isn’t rudeness or inconsideration. If you do it to them, they won’t be offended. By contrast, an American reporter, say, knows that if his nine-o’clock interview happens at nine, the one at eleven will be possible, and the business lunch will come off on time, so that he can hit the computer by three and file at five. It works. Americans show up ten minutes early and wait. In the Third World, writing the same story would take three days instead of one.
Suspected Economic law: Per capita income correlates with the average number of minutes by which people miss appointments.
In the Third World there is a different attitude to commerce. An American businessman is likely to give a new client a good price, or at least the going price, in hopes of acquiring him as a regular customer. If in the Third World a European gets a haircut without asking the price, he will be charged eight dollars when the correct price is four dollars. He will never come back.
This is normal third-world economics—gouge the customer to the max without thought of the future. The practice is encouraged by the reliance on haggling in poor countries. I have sometimes wondered whether this doesn’t make tricking the customer more important than having a good product.
Suspected Economic Law: Countries that bargain have less money than those that don’t.
The what-me-care attitude can be, to an American, incomprehensible. You want a roof job that would cost several thousand dollars, a lot of money in many countries. The workmen promise to come the next day to give you an estimate. They don’t show. You call, and they say, well, my car broke. Next day, same thing. They got to your town but couldn’t find the house. And so on. So you go to Wal-Mart or Home Depot or some similar First-World enterprise and get the job done.
Another element of Half-Assedness is, depending on your politics, cultural or inherent, but unmistakable. Some populations just aren’t very bright, or at any rate don’t seem to be. Sub-Saharan Africa, though rich in resources, is pea-turkey poor and not improving. Arab countries, even when awash in oil money, do not establish First World societies that could survive without oil. In South America the white countries, such as Chile and Argentina, could be in Europe. The highly Indian countries, as for example Bolivia and Peru, would be basket cases if they could afford the basket.
Suspected Economic Law: The more European or East Asian blood, the more money.
That’s Fred on economics. Lynch mobs may take a number.
There's still freud in Schadenfreud!
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?
by seldom_seen » Wed 27 Jun 2007, 00:47:42
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Alcassin', 'I') find it quite funny that you risk backing-up statement with two wrong examples. Somalia is one tribe country called... Somalians.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')omalis are split up into many clans and sub-clans, including but not limited to the following major clans:
* Dir
* Hawiye
* Isaaq
* Darood
* Rahanweyn (Digil and Mirifle)
Genealogical claims are an important part of Somali tradition and can appear to outsiders as a form of xenophobic isolation. [10] Loyalty to one's clan is important and in Somalia it often supersedes any central government authority.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_people
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Alcassin', 'R')wanda is an originally one ethnic country (except some pygmies). Tutsi-Hutu is a class distinction.
However you prefer to slice it and dice it, the Tutsi and Hutu are two different tribes. Atleast they think they are, even if you don't.
But how the world turns. One day, cock of the walk. Next, a feather duster.
For the Rwandans - I don't agree, anthropologists don't, on my African studies nobody said they were two tribes even Rwandans... but OK, you can reject it.
