[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('undertaker', 'I')t's clear that I_Like_Plants never understood White nationalism.

I wouldn't call myself a "Neo-Nazi," but I am a White nationalist in the same way that members of La Raza (the race) are Raza Nationalists, and so on.

I noticed that every group besides Whites were allowed to participate in positive ethnic identification and advocate for thier ethnic interests; but for some strange reason, people of European descent were not allowed ethnic identification unless they were bashing their own kind or working against the interests of people of European descent.

I lived in Boston and learned about the bussing battle of 1974. The Boston Irish had their "turf" in South Boston and Charleston, just as the Jews have thier turf in Brookline, Blacks in Dorchester/Roxbury, Vietnamese have thier turf over in a town I forget the name but I remember "Little Vietnam" and I knew a Vietnamese and found out from asking him that Vietnamese have their Vietnamese-only day cares, schools, churches, and even blocks of apartment buildings!

So every race except Whites is allowed to have ethnic turf.

South Boston had forced bussing of Blacks into their schools, and they rioted. Unfortunately they lost to the heavy handed tactics of Judge Arthur Garrity and the haters of Whites in the gov't.

Also, I saw how Whites had to pay "full market rate rent" for apartments in Boston, and people of color were given "section 8" housing subsidies. I lived in "integrated" housing for a year, and my colored neighbors paid 400 a month rent, and I paid 1300 a month rent. They called me "rich boy" and vandalized my car and spat on the sidewalk right in front of me and my 3 year old daughter when we walked by. One week I had an earned vacation and I noticed that all my neighbors spent their days lollygagging at home. When they called me "rich," after that I said, "You're rich -- you don't have to work!" And I dubbed that area "ni$$erz in paradise." And in the Boston Globe they still published articles about the poor downtrodden colored people, and how Whites should feel so very guilty for their "white privilege" etc. What a joke!

I got out of the city, and I can't wait to see what happens when there's no more subsidized everything for these people. They are going to be pissed and I'm going to be laughing.

Also, expressing race realism can get you fired from your job nowadays. But when people have less to lose, they will be more free to express what they really believe. The growth economy keeps everyone "in line," so to speak. Peak Oil is going to be a new era of free speech!

[I_Like_Plants]

Oh and thank God, there are finally some books coming out about Southie and all that. The shit working-class Whites go through. Whene you start seeing books about it, you know the idea is percolating up into the intellectual class. I think this may be because some of this class are smart enough to see the writing on the wall and realize they may very easily fall into the working class ..... we'd better start treating the working class better because we may fall down into it ourselves, kind of thing.

In the Great Depression a lot of middle-class types became ditch diggers..

[undertaker]

<quote> I understand White nationalism completely and agree that if the other races are going to have their groups and schools and all that, Whites ought to also.</quote>

Well then you are still a White nationalist, and all that other Marxist stuff you are saying doesn't change that.

The Marxists whose ideas you parrot DO NOT BELIEVE that White people have any right at all to their own groups and schools and such. Any preference for being around one's own kind is "dividing the working class" to them.

You are straddling two irreconciliable camps, Plants, and that is because the Left-Marxist side you are identifying with nowadays is fanatically anti-White. I basically agree with the economic analysis you make, but my brand of White nationalism is NOT "dividing the working class," although I'd never convince the Left-Marxists of this. We want to have our own institutions and our own ethnic neighborhoods. But the Marxist-Left is dominated by people who think ANY ethnic identification by Whites equals "genocide" of non-Whites. There's no logic to those Left-Marxists; they do not debate in good faith. If you say, "I don't think inter-racial marriage is a good idea" you might as well have just lynched or gassed someone.

The anti-White Left does not play nice; they don't believe in fairness, or free speech, or the right to free association. They believe that every White baby is a "potential Hitler." They want us dead just for being us, and they consider the only good White people are those who are working for the genocide of their own kind.

Why don't you go hang with the ARA or ISO for a while, Plants, and tell them that you think White people have a right to free association? Or go to www.democraticunderground.com and tell them? See what they say, and come back and tell us what happened.

[Eli]

Well the after affects of PO will certainly lend themselves to Nazism. Remember that ASPO article a year so ago that sounded like the final solution for PO.

[cynicalheretic]

Oh please, you are all so bloody pathetic. Whiney and bitching about how you have it so bad and how the whites have just been tossed out to the trash. You all wouldn't know true mistreatment if it bit you on the ass.

Anyway

The whole fucking world needs to stop viewing themselves as their own seperate race and realize at the end of the day we are all human and that we should work together for the common good of all. I suppose it is to much to ask for people to finally grow the fuck up.

[Eli]

Yeah, good luck with that Cynical.

I am not saying that is a bad idea, just that it ain't goin to happen. I have the whole of human history to prove that this is not the way things will play out.

Let's just take the US as an example, do you think relations with Mexico and immigrants are going to get better as their oil economy implodes?

It is extremely doubtful that when millions upon millions of Mexicans try desperately to escape the hell hole that Mexico will become that they will be greeted with open arms.

The Government will put them in camps and send them back to Mexico to starve or claw there way out again.

[ohanian]

According to Norman Spinrad
The Lord of the Swastika
had an Iron Dream!

[Ingenuity_Gap]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'T')he whole fucking world needs to stop viewing themselves as their own seperate race and realize at the end of the day we are all human and that we should work together for the common good of all. I suppose it is to much to ask for people to finally grow the fuck up.

[holmes]

They balance out you "brown" racist white self haters and haters racists. Boy do we need both racist types to destroy each other.
I see no problem. the clever cloaking of the so called humanists on the "left" will never fool me and those with an ounce of intelligence. Keep calling out these racists tho. it just bring focus onto ALL racists. thanks.

[Grifter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ingenuity_Gap', 'P')eople are racist because it is in their genes, like every other mammal..

[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', '
')The whole fucking world needs to stop viewing themselves as their own seperate race and realize at the end of the day we are all human and that we should work together for the common good of all. I suppose it is to much to ask for people to finally grow the fuck up.

[chumley]

From what I have seen so far in this internet community is much more then neo nazi's. Just to name a few more types of people on these boards

bleeding heart liberals
enviromentalist whacko's
population control proponents
class envy types
marxists
socialists
conservatives
neo-cons
independants
libertarians
survivalists
doomers

wow a virtual cornicopian example of diverse ideology.
Therein lies the bigger question....what brings so many people of varying backgrounds together?

could it be we all feel something in this world is just out of whack?

[Baldwin]

Racist these days gets too often confused with a person who mentions certain statistics the multiculturalists would like to ignore.

[kabu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'I') just think that White nationalism, Black nationalism, La Raza, etc are being used by the folks running things to keep us all divided and weak [...]

[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kabu', '
')Right now I'm living in Sao Paulo, Brazil, and by comparison, racism seems to hardly exists. It does exist, though. It's mostly reserved for the darkest of Brazil's negros, like all the Nigerians or Angolans that reside here. My girlfriend is multato, so I don't get to witness it much, unless we travel to the more primitive parts of SA.

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grifter', 'N')o, it is not in our genes, it is a learned belief system, it is most certainly not innate.

[cynicalheretic]

No race should be allowed to view or take pride in their heritage, it is that kind of insane blathering that has made the world what it is today.

It won't be to many more years before there will be no pure races left, of course then it will be like that episode of Star Trek where kirk encounters a group half white half black who consider themselves superior to the half black half whites.


BTW, We all be niggers... In case you forget, all races are from africa.

[Alcassin]

seldom_seen:

I find it quite funny that you risk backing-up statement with two wrong examples.
Somalia is one tribe country called... Somalians. As I studied this historical example, Somalia was destroyed and pushed to poverty after War of Ogaden with Ethiopia during '70. Moreover their new ally during this war seized their economy by giving credit on higher percent then they issued bonds. After the war country imploded and was ruled by some warlords.

Rwanda is an originally one ethnic country (except some pygmies). Tutsi-Hutu is a class distinction. While previously Tutsis were "aristocracy" serving the king and it was opened - interrmariages were popular. Then Belgians came and called Tutsis by those who were richer and had long nose/brighter skin, and Hutus who didn't. They ceded control over colony to Tutsis.
It was very effective for imperialists to cede control over colony to some groups, they were scapegoats while whites were not hurt by anybody. (I use the word "Imperialists" after Cecil Rhodes who coined it).

"Is this learned behavior though at it's root? Or is this just one of many ways tribes use to protect or assert themselves against competing tribes?"

It's the way of convincing - by fear to other nations/religions first to exclude from society (apes, cockroaches so on) then to justify any atrocity made on them.

[kabu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kabu', '
')Right now I'm living in Sao Paulo, Brazil, and by comparison, racism seems to hardly exists. It does exist, though. It's mostly reserved for the darkest of Brazil's negros, like all the Nigerians or Angolans that reside here. My girlfriend is multato, so I don't get to witness it much, unless we travel to the more primitive parts of SA.

[Baldwin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'N')o race should be allowed to view or take pride in their heritage, it is that kind of insane blathering that has made the world what it is today.

It won't be to many more years before there will be no pure races left, of course then it will be like that episode of Star Trek where kirk encounters a group half white half black who consider themselves superior to the half black half whites.


BTW, We all be niggers... In case you forget, all races are from africa.