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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby Chris25 » Mon 02 Jul 2007, 03:56:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'O')h please, you are all so bloody pathetic. Whiney and bitching about how you have it so bad and how the whites have just been tossed out to the trash. You all wouldn't know true mistreatment if it bit you on the ass.

Anyway

The whole fucking world needs to stop viewing themselves as their own seperate race and realize at the end of the day we are all human and that we should work together for the common good of all. I suppose it is to much to ask for people to finally grow the fuck up.


The trouble is while we are all human, we are all so different. We will never, ever, ever all live together in "utopia"

Look in the UK. We let everyone in from any country. And now our country is on the brink of racial disaster.

Friday- Muslims plant 2 car bombs in London. Fortunetly cops disarmed the devices before they caused carnage
Saturday- 2 Muslims drive a flaming car into Glasgow airport full of petrol and set themselves on fire
Sunday- A white man catches a taxi home with an Asian driver. The fee is normally £11, but the guy asks for £22. The white guy questions this and as a result is driven away and 4 Muslim scum kick the hell out of him, in full view of his girlfreind.
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby Aaron » Mon 02 Jul 2007, 07:45:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BastardSquad', '
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I'm going to assume you take vacations.

Should my assumption turn out to be correct,I cordially invite you to spend a week or two with the wife and kids(if you have a wife and kids,if not,going alone will do) in inner city Detroit.

Seriously!

I dare you!

No,

I "triple dog dare you"!

And no,you can't hunker down in some shithole hotel and only come out to jump in a cab to see better parts of the city,you have to set out on foot everyday and enjoy your surroundings.

I am completely fucking serious!

Do it!

I can guarantee you you won't be alive before your vacation ends.

Yeah,go on,make your snide little comments from your gated community,your "snob hill" residence,your suburban house,or your condo,or wherever the fuck it is you live!

So long as it isn't in your face,up close and personal,it doesn't exist in your world. (shithead)


Did you just call me a shit head?

You assume too much child.
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Mon 02 Jul 2007, 16:48:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chris25', '
')Sunday- A white man catches a taxi home with an Asian driver. The fee is normally £11, but the guy asks for £22. The white guy questions this and as a result is driven away and 4 Muslim scum kick the hell out of him, in full view of his girlfreind.


Here's what you do. You hunt down that taxi driver and you kick him to death. Not because he is Muslim, but because he deserves to be kicked to death.
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby undertaker » Mon 02 Jul 2007, 19:53:58

If you get the revenge on the Muslim as Plants advocates, you better have a gang of Whites to back you up, becuase the Muslim gang is HUGE and READY TO FIGHT.

My solution would be to strong arm the cab companies that hire muslims, and get the medallions taken away from the muzzes. Don't go after the symptoms, go after the disease.

Plants lives in kind of a fantasy land. Treating all races the same is pure insanity. They aren't "white people with a different paint job" like he thinks. Different races think differently and have an altogether different morality, and if you think of them as "whites with a different paint job," they'll take advantage of you.
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby TWilliam » Tue 03 Jul 2007, 03:25:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('undertaker', 'D')ifferent races think differently and have an altogether different morality, and if you think of them as "whites with a different paint job," they'll take advantage of you.


Thank you, tho' I'd argue the automatic assumption. They might take advantage of you, but I agree that different cultures have different conceptions of what constitutes moral behavior.

In some cultures, for example, it is acceptable, even laudable, to have children walk into crowded areas and detonate bombs that they are carrying. Such cultures have little respect for life in general, and if they perceive you as a threat in any way shape or form to their culture, they will rarely hesitate to make use of any opportunity to remove that threat. If you come to them with open arms, they see it as such...
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby BastardSquad » Wed 04 Jul 2007, 01:12:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('azreal60', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'a')zreal60,it's too bad Hitler isn't alive today,you two could have been really good golf partners(or whatever).You both support genocide,and are willing do your part to quash resistance.Kudos to you.


I... I'm ... I'm almost speechless... Almost..

I support genocide? That's.. rich doesn't begin to cover it.

I could go into the various ways why your oh so wrong, and why your beliefs are so full of it that they are starting to leak out the sides, but frankly, why bother?


Alright then, lets here your "reasons",I'm all ears.

Fact is,between declining birthrates and the ever increasing rate of miscegenation the white european peoples will disappear in a few hundred years(if that).In itself,that isn't the problem,the problem is that if you happen to be a white european and show any concern whatsoever about the future of your people(or lack thereof) you are immediately demonized as an ignorant,hate mongering,idiot nazi!

Demonized by people like you! I stand by my words,you fully support of the genocide of white europeans.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('azreal60', 'I')f you really believe that which you say, then nothing I can possibly say can convince you otherwise. You've already made up your mind about how the world works.


I am a nihilist,I "believe" nothing,I accept the facts as they are presented.

Not since the Catholic church(I was raised catholic just in case you wanna take a jab)has a religion held so much power over the western world as multiculturalism!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('azreal60', 'I') pity you, I really do.


Your pity is neither wanted nor needed.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('azreal60', 'I') will at least give you credit for making me laugh. Thanks, it's been a long week. Hope someday you learn the world isn't like what you described Bastardsquad. I really do.[b]

Please then,do describe your world for me.

I'd like to hear all about it.
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby BastardSquad » Wed 04 Jul 2007, 03:09:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '[')
Did you just call me a shit head?


Yeah,I'm sorry,that was a bit uncalled for.

I should have said you are spineless and gutless for being unwilling and incapable to live up to your own ideals.

You don't have to go to inner city Detroit for your next vacation.

Inner city St. Lewis,L.A.,Newark,Phillie,or D.C. will do.

Go on,hang out with the locals,spread the love,what are you waiting for?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'Y')ou assume too much child.

"
Which assumption was I wrong about?

You're married with a family?No?

That you are of european ancestry like me?If not then there's no point in continuing this debate,because even if you know I'm right,you'll continue to disagree with me because it does not benefit you.

That you live in an ivory tower(of sorts) safely protected from the "fruits" of multiculturalism that you so avidly endorse?

That you would ever in a million years live up to the ideals you preach,and spend a week in the ghetto,kickin it with your new homies,spreading the good word about racial harmony?

"Can I get some love?"

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'c')hild


Yes,

a child left to clean up the utter mess created by their psychotic,delusional,communist parents.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'R')un home now.


I am home!

A home I bought about 12 years ago,a nice home,a home I'll miss when I move.

When I first purchased this urban dwelling it was in a nice neighborhood,predominately white,but with a fair number of Asian families living here.

A neighborhood where your could leave your doors unlocked,keep your mower and bicycles in the back yard(unlocked),and walk down the street at night feeling perfectly safe.

After a couple of years two other ethnic/racial groups began moving in(can you guess who they are?).

As time went on the demographics of my neighborhood continued to change.

Theft is now commonplace.If you don't want something to be stolen, lock it up and then put locks on the locks.

Gangs were nonexistent when I moved here.Now I have to look at them staring me down as they walk down my street while I sit on my porch swing having a smoke.

A couple of years ago I got to watch an all out,honest to goodness,gang shootout right in front of my house!

Some people might think that's cool,but when you have a six month old,and you're thinking "what if a stray bullet went through my house and took off the top of her skull" it's absolutely terrifying.

So who are these new "gangbangers""?

Well,they aren't the White and Asian kids who grew up around here.

There are several parks around here where I used to take my older kids when they were little.I can't take my (now)three year old daughter to these same parks without fearing for her(our) safety.

As time goes on the white(and Asian)flight continues to accelerate,only making things worse.

I plan to move as soon as I am able,which probably won't be for a couple more years.


Maybe I'll move in next to the "Undertaker"!

We can pound a few brews and laugh our asses off watching on TEE VEE as you self righteous ,know-it-all pricks get your your possessions stolen,houses burned down,your wives raped,and your lives taken by all those "equal People".


The "800 pound gorilla".Now know I know what it's like to be drowning in irony.Thanks pal.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'R')un home now.

i am home Aaron

i am home
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby undertaker » Wed 04 Jul 2007, 08:47:37

Hey Bastard Squad,

Absolutely. Others demonize the White racialist community, but we are a nice bunch of people. Probably the best way to find them is to join www.cofcc.org

And go somewhere White, northern and rural. When TSHTF there won't be any more subsidized heating oil or welfare cheese for the tropically evolved people of the world, and they will have to migrate southward. Those who don't start migrating fast enough will become southward facing popsicles.
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby Aaron » Wed 04 Jul 2007, 13:25:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')eah,I'm sorry,that was a bit uncalled for.


Fair enough...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hich assumption was I wrong about?

You're married with a family?No?


I'm a widower.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hat you live in an ivory tower


Ummm... no. I'm a poor renter.

South Atlanta poor & black enough for you?

Worked & socialized there for a few years.

Never had a problem.

But then I'm not an egotistical [s]asshole[/s] shit head... so...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i') am home Aaron

i am home


Good... stay there... it's safer.

For you.
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby TWilliam » Wed 04 Jul 2007, 17:12:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'S')outh Atlanta poor & black enough for you?

Worked & socialized there for a few years.

Never had a problem.

But then I'm not an egotistical [s]asshole[/s] shit head... so...


You mean, "But then the power was on most of the time, the checks kept arriving and the long-distance-oil-based-transport-dependent drug inflow remained uninterrupted." :lol:
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby gampy » Wed 04 Jul 2007, 19:19:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')I completely disagree. Not much intelligence is required for the peak oil concept, at all. It's far, far more of an emotional matter, in my opinion.


This pretty much answers the original poster's question, I think.

If this was a forum about say...astrophysics, or microbiology, or art, I don't think we would see these folks, or even myself.

Narrowminded, and conditioned people can easily see what peak-oil is all about. It's not rocket science.

There are many intelligent, perceptive, talented people with irrational notions.

It's a function of human nature I suppose.

The human mind can do astounding feats of logic, insight, and reason.

But at the same time, it can be conditioned, and trained like any dog.

The neo-nazi's (or white power, nationalist, or whatever they might call themselves) have been conditioned. They never had black, or asian friends as kids. All they saw of the criminal elements is the black folks. They conveniently don't see the whites who are poor, drug-addled, alcoholic, and criminals in their own midst.

If there were no blacks in their country, or asians, or jews, they would find some other sub-category to find a difference. Maybe the dark haired. Or the shorter. Or the fatter.

It doesn't matter. People will find any way to be a bigot. Any way to make themselves feel better about themselves. It's just a fact of human nature writ large.

I would like to think that the majority of people can overcome these instincts, but I think they are hardwired, and will take many, many more centuries of living in mixed groups to overcome this evolutionary trait.

It's pretty axiomatic that people see differences before they see similarities. It's probably some kind of survival trait that has evolved in us and other mammals. I don't think that trait is necessary at the moment, but it might be at some point in the future. (When groups of humans didn't exceed 15-20, and only saw other groups to interbreed.)

I wonder if that's where we are headed? What a thought.
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby TWilliam » Wed 04 Jul 2007, 21:16:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', 'T')hey conveniently don't see the whites who are poor, drug-addled, alcoholic, and criminals in their own midst.


Hmmm well...

Haven't noticed too many ghettos full of redneck crackers. :lol: :lol:

But I hear what you're saying...
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby kabu » Wed 04 Jul 2007, 22:40:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '
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Hmmm well...

Haven't noticed too many ghettos full of redneck crackers. :lol: :lol:

But I hear what you're saying...

:lol: No?

Well... visit Vancouver, BC. Then check out Surrey. It's only 30 minutes away from the airport. It's just one gigantic ghetto-district full of redneck crackers!

Crime is bloody well outta control. I often hear about its shootouts... oh, and they've got their own dialect, to boot!
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Wed 04 Jul 2007, 23:37:11

I have black neighbors from East Palo Alto - nice folks. They say they never had problems in East Palo Alto, but here, where there are some crackers running loose, they've had their car broken into, attempted break-ins, and a lost cracker girl using a strange excuse ("Is this the open house?") to scope out their apartment. They also say in E. Palo Alto, if they went off for vacation, they'd tell the neighbors, who'd watch their place.

Not so here, where there are iffy types of all races but a distinct cracker problem. A few crackers is all it takes, believe me.

I am all for the crackers moving north, let 'em eat each other when all the "pone" has run out, those people are scum. The highest crime rates are where the crackers are, it's no coincidence.
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Wed 04 Jul 2007, 23:43:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '
')You mean, "But then the power was on most of the time, the checks kept arriving and the long-distance-oil-based-transport-dependent drug inflow remained uninterrupted." :lol:


Rather be around blacks than whites in that case. Really. Look at Katrina - whites died out of proportion, due to lack of friends, family, basic *humanity*. Blacks by and large worked together, and to a greater degree than whites would have.

The whites out in small boats rescuing folks, rescuing a lot of black folks, were not "whites", they were Cajuns, a group at least until recently reviled by whites, and they decided to just damn well go out and launch "the Cajun Navy" and go rescue folks.

The whites who could, got in their SUVs and scrammed. They didn't do much to look out for their white neighbors or any other whites in need did they? Nope just took off - result: Whites died out of proportion to their percentage of the population. A lot of whites survived because black arms held them up. Meanwhile blacks died or almost died because white cops tried their best to keep them bottled up long enough to die of heat, thirst, etc. Good thing they didn't succeed.

Now in New Orleans, whites in the French Quarter party on while most of the population of the place can't even come back.
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby BastardSquad » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 05:14:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '
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I'm a widower.


That sucks!

Sincerely,I'm sorry for your loss.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'U')mmm... no. I'm a poor renter.

South Atlanta poor & black enough for you?

Worked & socialized there for a few years.


Ummm,forgive my ignorance and stupidity,but what do you mean by "socialized"?

Were you a social worker,or did you rely on socialism for your survival?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'N')ever had a problem.


Shocked,stunned,and speechless . :oops:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', 'B')ut then I'm not an egotistical [s]asshole[/s] shit head... so...


Don't worry,I'm more than enough of both to meet any internet message board's minimum requirements.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i') am home Aaron

i am home

Good... stay there... it's safer.

For you.

I will stay or leave as circumstances dictate./
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby azreal60 » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 13:50:37

I'll go into it further bastard squad, but to start with, this is why I disagree with you.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hey conveniently don't see the whites who are poor, drug-addled, alcoholic, and criminals in their own midst


I'm just about as white as it gets. Only third generation german/scottish. I've had more problems with white people than I EVER had or probably will have with black/mexican pick your race people.

In EVERY study, EVERY SINGLE ONE, well, maybe not the one's sponsored by someone out there, but every single peer reviewed study, inter"racial" crime is vanishingly low compared to inner racial crime. If I'm robbed, it's virtually a 70 percent chance it was a white guy. Heck, probably more than that.

What I find sad about your statements is, to a certain degree I can understand your plight. I really can. I fear for my daughters safety all the time now that I'm a parent, and I worry for her future. That's a perfectly legitimate and good reason to have a concern. Here's my problem with your conclusion. Depending on your area, as you can see from the posts above, it really does NOT matter what race the people are. What makes people join gangs? What makes them commit crimes, generally of theft and the like, but sometimes of violence?

Overpopulation and poverty.

It does not matter what race you are. At all. You take a human being and you crowd them into a small area and make them poor, they are going to develope a culture that enspouses activities that you are seeing today.

By the way, did you ever talk to any of those gang members? Did you just look at them as hostile black's and mexicans, and do everything you could to avoid making eye contact. I used to talk to gang members in downtown milwaukee all the time. Now, we didn't and don't have a huge gang problem, but really, your own behavior in many ways is causing you to be "that white guy they like to scare just by being black". You think that's a joke, but that's a quote from a banger I used to talk to. They'd walk past this one guys house and he'd shuttle inside like alien monsters where outside. All his neighbors had these same people over for some meat on the barby and had no problems.

Really, what your complaining about is your neighborhoods economic situation went downhill, and now you have to deal with the consequences. Don't get all pissed at the ethnicity that happens to be there. That's not very logical, and likely causes more problems than you'd otherwise have.

Disclaimer for the above? Yeah, it's alot harder to not be pissed at the people who are responsible for your daughter living in a less safe world. And there ARE evil people out there. I've met a few. But their race generally had nothing to do with it. That's why I don't believe in your view of the world. Among other reasons.
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby kabu » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 14:26:20

It's very typical for people to mistake correlation with causation. It's so much easier to just stereotype people according to their colour, rather than recognizing their behavioral tendencies as being culture-driven, or simply incidental (in the case of an impoverished ethnic minority).

And I should also be fair by saying that in some cases, these unfair stereotypes may actually beneficially serve the individual in the short run. The thing is, unless that individual comes up with a more wholesome understanding of their situation, then they'll just go on to create more problems for other people, as well as for themselves.
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby Aaron » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 15:22:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')mmm,forgive my ignorance and stupidity,but what do you mean by "socialized"?


Why? You don't forgive mine.

I mean interact.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ere you a social worker,or did you rely on socialism for your survival?


No... And I relied on not dying for survival.
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Re: Why do Neo Nazi's have a love affair with Peak oil?

Unread postby BastardSquad » Sun 08 Jul 2007, 03:56:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')mmm,forgive my ignorance and stupidity,but what do you mean by "socialized"?


Why? You don't forgive mine.


Touch'e.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') mean interact.


Ahhh, gotcha.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ere you a social worker,or did you rely on socialism for your survival?


No... And I relied on not dying for survival.

And everyone around you did the same?

This is my last response in this thread.I knew better than to start posting here(and yet,being the dumbass I am,I did anyway),these debates are pointless,we will never see eye to eye.

Time(and bandwidth!!!) would be much better spent discussing homegrown fuel and beekeeping.

One last question before I leave this thread though,what did Undertaker do/say to get a permanent ban?

I might not agree with all his ideas,buy I'm a strong supporter of unlimited free speech.

"There are limits to free speech" is an oxymoron,the second you limit speech it is no longer free.
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