[some_guy282]

Is that 22 seperate charges for one person, or 22 seperate people, or some combination of the two?

We'll wait and see. I'm not getting excited about any of this yet.

[trespam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'I')'m not sure the Bush people will leave power.

No, I'm not one of those who think Dubya will annoint himself emperor or anything like that. But the GOP has a solid majority in both wings of Congress, and a good chance of winning the White House again. (President Jeb Bush, anyone?) Scandals only come out when at least one wing of Congress is controlled by the opposition party.

I'm really worried about the direction our country is taking, and I suspect oil is part of it. No one will ever say so outright, but I suspect part of the reason we've gotten so partisan is economic. There's less to go around, and for that reason, people are getting meaner. Less tolerant, less generous, less willing to put up with views different from their own. This will only get worse as oil prices keep rising.

If we follow the pattern, as we get closer and closer to collapse, there will be stricter and stricter controls over the population. Think Communist Cuba. Though it looks like rather than going extreme left, we'll be going extreme right. The rise of the American Taliban.

[Carrie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_guy282', 'I')s that 22 seperate charges for one person, or 22 seperate people, or some combination of the two?

We'll wait and see. I'm not getting excited about any of this yet.

[Grimnir]

This is from MSNBC's Hardball:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')If there are indictments, they're going to be probably in the vice president's office, they're probably going to come next week and they are going to blow this White House apart.

It's going to be unbelievable.

I think the people watching right now who are voters better start paying attention to this issue. It's not just about whether somebody's name was leaked, it's about whether we went to war under false pretenses or not, whether people knew about that or not, and what they did when they were charged against that kind of offense against the United States.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carrie', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_guy282', 'I')s that 22 seperate charges for one person, or 22 seperate people, or some combination of the two?

We'll wait and see. I'm not getting excited about any of this yet.

[some_guy282]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grimnir', 'T')his is from MSNBC's Hardball:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')If there are indictments, they're going to be probably in the vice president's office, they're probably going to come next week and they are going to blow this White House apart.

It's going to be unbelievable.

I think the people watching right now who are voters better start paying attention to this issue. It's not just about whether somebody's name was leaked, it's about whether we went to war under false pretenses or not, whether people knew about that or not, and what they did when they were charged against that kind of offense against the United States.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_guy282', 'b')ut nothing much surprises me as far as this administration is concerned. They seem to get away with pretty much... everything.

[Carrie]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_guy282', 'I') don't want to sound like I completely discount the possibilty of some serious indictments coming down, but nothing much surprises me as far as this administration is concerned. They seem to get away with pretty much... everything.

[some_guy282]

Here is an interesting piece from the person who authored the Espionage Act. Her analysis? No crime was committed.

If her description of the act is accurate, that may well be true. I'm not sure however. She seems to talk about what was "intended", and I wonder if the law is worded accordingly. If it is, it's strange that there was even a criminal probe to begin with. You'd think the Bush administration would have pointed it out long ago.

[OilsNotWell]

This is likely undoubtedly big news, so big I am placing it here...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ct 25, 2005 Indictments Coming Tomorrow; Targets Received Letters Today
An uber-insider source has just reported the following to TWN (since confirmed by another independent source):
1. 1-5 indictments are being issued. The source feels that it will be towards the higher end.
2. The targets of indictment have already received their letters.
3. The indictments will be sealed indictments and "filed" tomorrow.
4. A press conference is being scheduled for Thursday.

The shoe is dropping. More soon.-- Steve Clemons

Update: further commentary from CBS's John Roberts
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001031.html

[rogerhb]

Cool.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he targets of indictment have already received their letters.

[LadyRuby]

God I hope Rove and Libby (especially Rove) are indicted. For anything. In my dreams I'd wish for Cheney to be indicted too, but I can't pretend that's likely.

[rogerhb]

A quote from that URL

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ippee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[basketballjones]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LadyRuby', 'G')od I hope Rove and Libby (especially Rove) are indicted. For anything. In my dreams I'd wish for Cheney to be indicted too, but I can't pretend that's likely.

[some_guy282]

Mr. X huh? Maybe the reports of Cheney being involved are true. But when you get to obstruction of justice and perjury, it could be anyone. Even Bush himself has testified before this grand jury, hasn't he?

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_guy282', 'M')r. X huh? Maybe the reports of Cheney being involved are true. But when you get to obstruction of justice and perjury, it could be anyone. Even Bush himself has testified before this grand jury, hasn't he?

[some_guy282]

He wasn't? I thought everyone had to go under oath when they testified in court, or before a grand jury. Guess not.

[OilsNotWell]

While some will rejoice, I will be sorrowful, for those who are hold high office have allegedly dishonored their solemn obligations to represent we the people, defend the Constitution, and faithfully execute the laws of the United States. They're supposed to be better than us, but who are we kidding. I guess that's the problem...misguided assumptions that some are more equal than others.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_guy282', 'H')e wasn't? I thought everyone had to go under oath when they testified in court, or before a grand jury. Guess not.

[LadyRuby]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'A')s far as I know it, he was merely "interviewed".

We have found perpetual motion, the buck never stops.