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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby Niagara » Fri 20 Jun 2008, 13:09:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chuckmak', 'P')art of me is thinking Russia and China will draw a big circle around Iran and tell the Americans/Israelis don't even think about it.


Dammit, Chuckmak that thing looks real. I actually swatted my monitor LOL!
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby Cashmere » Fri 20 Jun 2008, 13:18:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup', 'S')o this thing will go to committee, it will hang out and do nothing for a few months, and even if it somehow makes it to the floor and passes, it is an "urging" or a "demanding" and has no foundation in law, and even if it did, Bush would not hesitate to ignore it if he felt like it.

So this amounts to nothing.


Pup, I disagree 100%.

Full disclosure - I agree with 99% of Pup's posts.

If it passes, it means that Bush/Obama/McBush has the psychological and legal basis to set up a blockade, which can only be viewed as an act of war.

In short, if the resolution passes, the president gains the imprimatur of the Congress to go to war with Iran.

That is huge, with nothing further.
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby IndigoMoon » Fri 20 Jun 2008, 13:23:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Medeno', 'H').CON.RES.362 now has 169 Cosponsors (another 23 in the last two days). There are I believe 535 house members. I would think this would be the top of the headlines. For more information and current status, check,

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z ... .res.00362:


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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby Chuckmak » Fri 20 Jun 2008, 15:04:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Niagara', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chuckmak', 'P')art of me is thinking Russia and China will draw a big circle around Iran and tell the Americans/Israelis don't even think about it.


Dammit, Chuckmak that thing looks real. I actually swatted my monitor LOL!


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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Fri 20 Jun 2008, 15:09:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'H')asn't Iran got a number of tankers all primed and ready to go, parked off its coast? Wonder if there's any connection?


I was under the impression that the general consensus (at least around here) was that those tankers are part of an effort to manipulate oil prices by removing tankers from the already extremely tight global shipping network.
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby IndigoMoon » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 21:45:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Medeno', 'H').CON.RES.362 now has 169 Cosponsors (another 23 in the last two days). There are I believe 535 house members. I would think this would be the top of the headlines. For more information and current status, check,

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z ... .res.00362:


I just checked. The sponsor count is now 208. :(
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby Novus » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 22:28:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IndigoMoon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Medeno', 'H').CON.RES.362 now has 169 Cosponsors (another 23 in the last two days). There are I believe 535 house members. I would think this would be the top of the headlines. For more information and current status, check,

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z ... .res.00362:


I just checked. The sponsor count is now 208. :(


So the US house is 60 votes away from declaring war on Iran. As the Persians would say: "THIS IS MADNESS!"
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby Buggy » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 23:05:47

Sorry if I don't hop on the Iran love wagon here, but they have been asking for it since 1979. Are there ANY republicans in here?
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby Jotapay » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 23:25:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', 'S')orry if I don't hop on the Iran love wagon here, but they have been asking for it since 1979. Are there ANY republicans in here?


I'm old school conservative, but I would not be caught dead around the Jesus-freak, Israel-supporting, science-hatin', corporate lapdogs who call themselves Republicans these days and who voted for George Bush twice in a row. You should be ashamed of yourself. DIAF.
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 23:28:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', 'S')orry if I don't hop on the Iran love wagon here, but they have been asking for it since 1979. Are there ANY republicans in here?


I'd hope even a republican would forgo destroying the way of life of western civilization just to show a bunch of backwater Muslims how big their balls are.
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby mobil1 » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 23:50:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', 'S')orry if I don't hop on the Iran love wagon here, but they have been asking for it since 1979. Are there ANY republicans in here?


Nope.

Weren't there some little issues with the US backed Shah of Iran prior to 1979... ? :)
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby DantesPeak » Thu 26 Jun 2008, 23:57:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Atlantean_Relic', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', 'S')orry if I don't hop on the Iran love wagon here, but they have been asking for it since 1979. Are there ANY republicans in here?


I'd hope even a republican would forgo destroying the way of life of western civilization just to show a bunch of backwater Muslims how big their balls are.


Since apparently about 95% of Congress thinks that speculators are causing high oil prices, and high prices have nothing to do with threatening to bomb oil producer Iran, I am starting to think that reason is not going to prevail here.
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby Novus » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 00:37:10

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Nope.

Weren't there some little issues with the US backed Shah of Iran prior to 1979... ? :)


Well in 1958 the CIA over threw the democratically elected government of Iran and installed the Shah in power. A little ghost left over from the Cold War.
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby Buggy » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 00:44:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mobil1', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', 'S')orry if I don't hop on the Iran love wagon here, but they have been asking for it since 1979. Are there ANY republicans in here?


Nope.

Weren't there some little issues with the US backed Shah of Iran prior to 1979... ? :)


Oh. I was just checking. And yes, but that was that other party in 79 but that whole policy probably ties into the party before that, which ties into the party before that, which ties into a treaty giving Israel a land steeped in religious tradition, but not much of anything else. So, I guess it could be said that bad foreign policy is not party specific. And ya'll can chill on the attacking Iran thing. Aint' happening in an election year. Obama will have to sort them out. Now, where did I put the key to my fallout shelter????

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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby Buggy » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 00:51:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', 'S')orry if I don't hop on the Iran love wagon here, but they have been asking for it since 1979. Are there ANY republicans in here?


I'm old school conservative, but I would not be caught dead around the Jesus-freak, Israel-supporting, science-hatin', corporate lapdogs who call themselves Republicans these days and who voted for George Bush twice in a row. You should be ashamed of yourself. DIAF.


Nice to see that whole liberal tolerance mechanism kicking. Such a pragmatic paradox.
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby Jotapay » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 07:37:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', 'S')orry if I don't hop on the Iran love wagon here, but they have been asking for it since 1979. Are there ANY republicans in here?


I'm old school conservative, but I would not be caught dead around the Jesus-freak, Israel-supporting, science-hatin', corporate lapdogs who call themselves Republicans these days and who voted for George Bush twice in a row. You should be ashamed of yourself. DIAF.


Nice to see that whole liberal tolerance mechanism kicking. Such a pragmatic paradox.


You must have missed this part. I'll spell it out for the cheap seats: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'I')'M OLD SCHOOL CONSERVATIVE....


I guess being a small government, laissez faire capitalist, personal freedoms and personal responsibility kinda guy is liberal now. From a fascist point of view, I suppose that's possible.

I think I just heard some Israeli jerking your chain. Better see what he wants.
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 07:54:41

sponser count 220

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '(')3) demands that the President initiate an international effort to immediately and dramatically increase the economic, political, and diplomatic pressure on Iran to verifiably suspend its nuclear enrichment activities by, inter alia, prohibiting the export to Iran of all refined petroleum products; imposing stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran; and prohibiting the international movement of all Iranian officials not involved in negotiating the suspension of Iran's nuclear program; and
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby Homesteader » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 08:03:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Buggy', 'S')orry if I don't hop on the Iran love wagon here, but they have been asking for it since 1979. Are there ANY republicans in here?


I'm old school conservative, but I would not be caught dead around the Jesus-freak, Israel-supporting, science-hatin', corporate lapdogs who call themselves Republicans these days and who voted for George Bush twice in a row. You should be ashamed of yourself. DIAF.


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Buggy, read up on U.S., British and French involvement in Iran for the past 100 years, then put the shoe on the other foot. See how it fits, then get back to us.
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby yull » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 08:13:21

It looks to me that if America goes down it will try to bring the rest of the world down with it. I just cannot see that country just sitting back and cooperating when things get tough. They will destroy the world, and this country will probably join them given our strong links. Dear me.
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Re: House Resolution Calls for Naval Blockade against Iran

Unread postby IndigoMoon » Fri 27 Jun 2008, 09:45:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IndigoMoon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Medeno', 'H').CON.RES.362 now has 169 Cosponsors (another 23 in the last two days). There are I believe 535 house members. I would think this would be the top of the headlines. For more information and current status, check,
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z ... .res.00362:

I just checked. The sponsor count is now 208. :(

So the US house is 60 votes away from declaring war on Iran. As the Persians would say: "THIS IS MADNESS!"


Last night it was 208. This morning it is 220. I guess the count down is on.
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