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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby greenworm » Sun 11 May 2008, 23:11:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you want to insult someone, try to come across a little wittier than a gradeschooler. BTW, emoticons don't make it any funnier.


It's just a word, get over it. If you are going to cry over a little word, then you aren't going to handle peak oil too well. Grow a backbone kid.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Why not one more?
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I've read many of your posts where you cut people down, so get off your pedastool ya twit.
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Sun 11 May 2008, 23:12:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'C')uba would be a great place to be post peak. I think that they have figured out a lot of the things that make things work with much less oil.

Unfortunately I'll bet your social security checks would have a hard time getting there with the embargo.


I bet with a post office box, a friend in the states and a local gold dealer who would get an extra 5% off the top, eastbay could find a way to make the whole thing work.
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby BigTex » Sun 11 May 2008, 23:32:36

People like Glenn Beck intrigue me.

It's like he SORT OF gets a lot of things, but doesn't fully get any one thing.

He reminds me of a guy at a doomer party playing pin the tail on the donkey.

But he's probably the closest the MSM gets to covering fringe stuff like peak oil and related topics.

Then there are people like Bill O'Reilly and the other evening talking heads who are just complete dorks. Those guys are painful to watch. I really think that some of those guys take donkey shit IVs before they go on every night to get them properly primed for their shows.
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby greenworm » Sun 11 May 2008, 23:43:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')eople like Glenn Beck intrigue me.


He reminds me of Ralph Wiggum.

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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby Denny » Sun 11 May 2008, 23:46:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', '
')On the contrary, you have tremendous power. It's just a matter of how you define it.

You have the power to insulate yourself in countless ways from the stupidity and delusions of others.

Power is not the ability to change others; it's the ability to arrange your affairs so that your security and happiness are not contingent upon stupid people becoming enlightened.

Merely making that realization can be quite empowering.


Yes, this is the ultimate freedom. But, sometimes its lonely to go off one's own tangent. To be a black sheep. I think that is why so many are frustrated that the rest of the "flock" seems so content to be on the road to failure and misery.

I think just like the Soviet Union of old, many will figure it out in time and will have their own defense mechanisms ready. Who knows, maybe many sheeple are putting on an act. If a real emergency comes, who do you think will be checked out first to see if they have silver or guns in their possession? Somebody posting here or a one who manages to act like the rest of the flock?
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby BigTex » Sun 11 May 2008, 23:50:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')eople like Glenn Beck intrigue me.


He reminds me of Ralph Wiggum.

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Yeah, he would have a lot more credibility if he had a big scar on his face from a knife fight, or maybe a big gang tattoo on his neck.

The thing that drives me crazy is he will have his guest all set up for a killer question, and he will just let it pass.
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby Heineken » Sun 11 May 2008, 23:56:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'S')o Heineken, are you saying you would like them to be fruitlessly screaming?


I'm a doomer, Ludi, so to me both the question and the answer are purely academic.

I am merely curious, or perhaps even astounded, at the relative silence the American people are displaying as their vaunted "way of life" (the one Cheney swore to defend) falls apart almost overnight.
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby greenworm » Sun 11 May 2008, 23:57:09

He seems kinda sensationalist to me and propaganda oriented. I remember he looked like he was on pcb or something when covering the Iran tension, like he was trying to sell the hysteria. I'd prefer more facts on my new programs, but I understand they have to be sensational or it won't capture a large segment(I won't say the word, Mos will have a bird) of the population. I get frustrated by it, I think I am gonna switch off the cable for the tv soon.
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby TWilliam » Mon 12 May 2008, 01:02:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'S')ome people are so intoxicated with the word "sheeple" that they can't seem to post here without using this dehumanizing epithet. Really, it accomplishes nothing. It's the same thing religions do when they separate people into the faithful and the subhuman heathen.


When the shoe fits...

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On the issue of the general public's lack of awareness: while yes, the information is out there, you have to remember that the MSM feeds the information in disconnected bits and pieces, and that the majority of people are not very adept at putting the pieces together to form a coherent picture (many good arguments can be made that this is largely by design, but that's another discussion). My impression of most of us who post here is that we are well ahead of the curve in that regard...
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby eastbay » Mon 12 May 2008, 01:08:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BigTex', 'P')eople like Glenn Beck intrigue me.

It's like he SORT OF gets a lot of things, but doesn't fully get any one thing.

He reminds me of a guy at a doomer party playing pin the tail on the donkey.

But he's probably the closest the MSM gets to covering fringe stuff like peak oil and related topics.

Then there are people like Bill O'Reilly and the other evening talking heads who are just complete dorks. Those guys are painful to watch. I really think that some of those guys take donkey shit IVs before they go on every night to get them properly primed for their shows.


I saw him on CNBC today offering his thoughts to Maria B on commodities. Over the course of a five to seven or so minute interview, he explained why he is very bullish on commodities such as zinc, which he spoke of, and particularly so on our good dying friend energy, a sector which he claims is a great (he didn't use that word) investment in general, although he didn't get very specific regarding where exactly to place your $$.
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby eastbay » Mon 12 May 2008, 01:17:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'C')uba would be a great place to be post peak. I think that they have figured out a lot of the things that make things work with much less oil.

Unfortunately I'll bet your social security checks would have a hard time getting there with the embargo.


I bet with a post office box, a friend in the states and a local gold dealer who would get an extra 5% off the top, eastbay could find a way to make the whole thing work.


Piece of cake regarding the SS check. You don't have to be a chess master to figure out that move.

Interestingly, many poorer countries grant green cards to those who retire there. Malaysia, where I'll be heading in a few weeks, requires a minimum of $!0,000 in the bank and a monthly income of at least $1,000 and you're in. I realize Cuba isn't exactly Malaysia, but Spanish is easier than Malay any day and I wouldn't be surprised if some day in the near future Cuba will allow a similar arrangement. It's a great way for a poor country to raise money and it'll mostly attract friendly people, if you know what I mean.
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby municipal » Mon 12 May 2008, 01:40:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'C')ome on, Ludi. The people have no power.

What am I doing? Screaming my head off, HERE. And hoping I don't get arrested for it one dark night.


You will be arrested in the daylight. Fighting terarizm is an 8-5 job now. Just punch in your cell phone number, drive to where you are an pick you up.
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby Jack » Mon 12 May 2008, 01:44:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'I') am merely curious, or perhaps even astounded, at the relative silence the American people are displaying as their vaunted "way of life" (the one Cheney swore to defend) falls apart almost overnight.


First, they don't know it has ended. In fact, the way of life is still intact for most. Those at the fringes are having problems - but those at the fringes have always had problems.

Second, they don't believe the present trends will get worse. Far worse.

Third, the way to get power - real power, political power - involves risk. Power is not given by one individual or group to another; rather, it is taken. (Always by entirely legal and peaceful means, of course. 8) ) But there are risks in taking power; risks of money, of friendships, of social standing. And, perhaps still greater risks. Such risks demand great motivation; and our society is sufficiently comfortable that the motivation is not yet present.

Be patient, Heineken. We shall live in interesting times that historians will write about.
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby manu » Mon 12 May 2008, 02:38:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'S')o Heineken, are you saying you would like them to be fruitlessly screaming?


I'm a doomer, Ludi, so to me both the question and the answer are purely academic.

I am merely curious, or perhaps even astounded, at the relative silence the American people are displaying as their vaunted "way of life" (the one Cheney swore to defend) falls apart almost overnight.


Three main reasons:
1. Consumtion of fast foods and junk foods.
2. Consumtion of GMF or meat that has been fed GMF
3. Consumtion of pharmacutical drugs and TV.

So most of the lemmings or sheeple (or just dull minded people)
are in a zombie like state already and won't see the rocks at the bottom of the cliff untill they hit them, what to speak of the cliff itself.
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby hironegro » Mon 12 May 2008, 03:35:28

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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Mon 12 May 2008, 03:44:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'S')o Heineken, are you saying you would like them to be fruitlessly screaming?


I'm a doomer, Ludi, so to me both the question and the answer are purely academic.

I am merely curious, or perhaps even astounded, at the relative silence the American people are displaying as their vaunted "way of life" (the one Cheney swore to defend) falls apart almost overnight.

Perhaps Americans are more adaptable than you think?

You only wait...within few more years they will grow their own vegetables. :-D
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 12 May 2008, 03:56:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '
')My impression of most of us who post here is that we are well ahead of the curve in that regard...


All of us were "sheeple" once. There is a TON of bitterness revolving around the state of affairs we're in and we all have to resist the temptation to just write off the rest of humanity with a convenient epithet. That being said, I have had trouble broaching this topic with my own family. I just haven't hit them over the head with support materials but I'm going to finally do that at the end of the summer. If I can't manage to bring them around it's going to definitely make me question the psychological barriers to acceptance.
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby TWilliam » Mon 12 May 2008, 04:40:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '
')My impression of most of us who post here is that we are well ahead of the curve in that regard...


All of us were "sheeple" once.


I'm really not so sure of that mos, not in the sense that I think most folks here use the term.

While I was generally unaware, on a conscious level at least, of issues like energy depletion, overshoot, the sensitive dependence of virtually our entire way of life upon the ready availability of CHEAP energy, etc... once I was presented with the requisite information, it took me literally no more than a couple of days to grasp the overall magnitude of the challenges before us, and to comprehend the overlapping complexities involved. Certainly not every relevant detail, but I definitely got 'the big picture' in very short order.

I'm honestly beginning to believe that the actual capacity for perceiving that 'big picture' is noticeably absent among a large percentage, if not the majority, of the public at large. I have even tried, on more than one occasion, to actually walk people through making some of the more (to me) obvious connections, and I swear it actually seems as if they're literally incapable of seeing them, or at least damn good at ignoring them.

I think the reason most of us are here is because we DO have the capacity for seeing that 'big picture', which in my estimation is something more than simply a matter of having the information. And I think that ability also places us firmly beyond the ranks of even 'former sheeple', at least during our adult lives.
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby Pretorian » Mon 12 May 2008, 14:31:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JJ', 'I') fear for the future. The public is NOT going to take this well.


What's your business with the public? Are you a public servant deep in your soul? Boss, meatcutter, client-- what, there is nothing else to talk about aside peakoil? All this preaching.. what are you, a priest, a prophet wannabe? How much $ would you pay to keep all three alive through peakoil thing? How much of your own health would you spare?
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Re: "American Way of Life" Dissolving; Sheeple Qui

Unread postby Ferretlover » Mon 12 May 2008, 14:59:18

Nicely put, TWilliam.
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