[NEOPO]

I cannot find this thread in the "last 24 hours" search so that may be why oowolf as well as the rest have nothing further to say heh

[oowolf]

You gotta remember I've been living (surviving) out here in the Bitterroots for 33 years. I actually know some folks who are so "far back" they consider me a dilettante mountain man wannabe. Of course, these people would never touch a computer, much less attempt to communicate who those "suck the green weenie".

Most of you know I don't actually own a computer or even a phone (never have). I use one of Mr. Gates' here in the local library. I was never interested in the internet 'til I found I could pick junk up off of the ground and sell it on ebay to morons with more $ than brains. I'm glad I did-the internet has been a great source of income and survival info--mostly about edible plants I'd never heard of.

I'm 58 yrs, 3 mo.

[dinopello]

Beware the Sheeple!

[Bas]

[Sys1]

The question is inside the topic.
I know about peak oil since 2004. It was at first very difficult to believe my world was as fake as unsustainable when i started to read all day long everything about oil, energy, growth, pollution...
I can say now that my world's vision changed when i understood our civilization is doomed to failure in the coming years and not in 500 years or so like i used to think.
Moreover, everything i do is now watched through the peak oil prism. Everything!
Gas at pump, the computer where i write this text, the woman i love who wants to have a baby, my mother who needs a pacemaker and pills to survive, my brother coming back and forth China (we are french), expecting to do so for the next 50 years...

People don't know. Yet. I'm certain 100$ oil will be a shock. Not an oil shock for EU or USA. A psychological shock, meaning something like:
"Damn, what the f*** is going on?"
Medias won't be able to hide the 100$ oil story. A lot of sheeple will start to connect the dots between oil, global warming and their way of life.
At the end, we here are also those sheeple.

[Evltre]

I really don't think $100 is going to make all that much difference here or in many western countries. Not immediately like a "flick a switch revelation" type event. We're already $95 and life is going on. It hasn't translated into much higher fuel costs, we aren't having shortages. I think for most people you'd actually have to physically "have none" before they'll open their eyes.

[bonehead]

The sheeple will pay any price and do anything to make sure they can drive 1000 miles to go on vacation!It's their god given right and they're damn well gonna do it.

[Ludi]

Most people don't pay attention to the price of oil, they pay attention to the price of gasoline.


So I don't think most people will react much to $100 oil unless it is reflected in significantly higher gasoline prices.

[lateStarter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'M')ost people don't pay attention to the price of oil, they pay attention to the price of gasoline.

So I don't think most people will react much to $100 oil unless it is reflected in significantly higher gasoline prices.

[lateStarter]

I'm pretty sure if you conducted a general survey of the American public and asked them how much a barrel of oil costs they would tell you the price per gallon they most recently paid at the pump.

I'll be back in the states in November to dispose of whatever 'stuff' I still have there. It will involve some driving, so it should prove to be interesting. I promise to take some informal surveys at the pump and report back to you.

[dukey]

100 dollar oil is only 8 dollars more expensive than now
it wont make any difference and the sheeply will barely notice

petrol is over a pound a litre here .. business as usual.

[Eli]

100 dollar oil has to translate into 4 dollar gas at the pump short of that no one will even care.

What is going to be shocking to people is when they go to Wal Mart and they find all that cheap Chinese crap cost about 50% more.

And the only shock that is going to really wake any of us up is going to be no gas at the pumps period. 4 dollar of gas will be a pain but life will go on, no gas will be unworkable.

[sicophiliac]

I wonder if political pressure from the democrats in congress is pressuring refiners to bite the bullet and produce relatively cheap gas from what is now very expensive crude oil. If gas prices went way up and refiners posted huge profits I would imagine congress might be bitch and threaten windfall profit taxes or something.. that is assuming congress actually had the balls to do something like that. Given how they have caved to Bush from everything to spying on Americans to perpetuating the Iraq occupation I doubt they'd wield much of a threat to the refining industry. But maybe the refiners see it differently or maybe they are trying to keep shit from hitting the fan long just a little bit longer.. I am sure there is some political element to it. Also note mainstream media is essentially silent on this issue.. business news will report briefly on oil prices hitting a new record but there isn't much talk about it beyond that. The silence is deafening especially in light of all the noise the other "mega issue" of global warming is getting. The 2008 presidential candidates are the same way.. hardly bring up any serious discussion about energy policy or security.

[dooberheim]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lateStarter', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'M')ost people don't pay attention to the price of oil, they pay attention to the price of gasoline.

So I don't think most people will react much to $100 oil unless it is reflected in significantly higher gasoline prices.

[BleakToil]

$100.00 oil is only $4.77 from here - we could have $100 oil by Nov 1st in New York.

[Jack]

As Ludi points out, they will remain unaware. They do not wish to see the reality, therefore they will remain willfully blind.

When gasoline hits $5 per gallon they will, perhaps, start to bleet. No doubt the politicians will make a great many promises, none of which can be kept.

[billp]

Are any of you concerned about gas and diesel shortages?

This happened in 1972-3 especially on the east coast and around Houston.

[bonehead]

Haven't really considered shortages yet,really worried about what it's gonna do to my wallet.Wondering when the tipping point will come when it's not really worth getting out of bed to go to work.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('billp', 'A')re any of you concerned about gas and diesel shortages?

This happened in 1972-3 especially on the east coast and around Houston.

[Cobra_Strike]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', '1')00 dollar oil is only 8 dollars more expensive than now
it wont make any difference and the sheeply will barely notice

petrol is over a pound a litre here .. business as usual.