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Re: chess

Postby Narz » Fri 26 Feb 2010, 00:19:23

I'll try to teach my daughter how to play blindfolded when she's old enough but I think it's likely too late for me, I'm just happy to keep improving in my old age. :wink:
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Re: chess

Postby Carlhole » Fri 26 Feb 2010, 01:28:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'I')'ll try to teach my daughter how to play blindfolded when she's old enough but I think it's likely too late for me, I'm just happy to keep improving in my old age. :wink:


You should torrent yourself a copy of Rybka or at least read about the engine. It's the first one I've seen where the chess play is really interesting. So, I play Delfi at say 1800, reach an a point where some cleverness is needed, and then see how the engine handles it compared to what I did. It will do different things also when repeated.
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Re: chess

Postby pablonite » Tue 09 Mar 2010, 19:17:54

http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-7721-0-25-25--.html
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')luff Unsuccessful, Perpetual Check

As of November 10, 2010 swine flu articles were replaced with headlines about drilling holes in the earth indicating the bluff - the threat of a nuclear war failed.

In a futile attempt to avoid going to Hell, TPTB are drilling holes in the earth hoping to find a heretofore undiscovered vulnerability in the earth’s crust:

Interior secretary Salazar announced 38 lease sales for oil and gas on public lands and 75 days later President Obama signed an executive order to loan two billion dollars of our “tax payers dollars” to a Brazilian Oil Exploration Company to drill for oil off the coast of Brazil.

This is a strategy known in Chess as “perpetual check” - a sequence of checks from which the opponent (Gaea) can escape, used by a player (TPTB) with a worse position in order not to lose the game.

The Fateful Geological Prize Called Haiti – Check!

Chess and oil. Good read! :lol:
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Re: chess

Postby Narz » Fri 19 Mar 2010, 00:24:00

Got my tactics rating up over 2000 on chesstempo.com but almost fell below again blowing three very difficult problems in the last move or two. I got all the preliminary moves (spending about 15 minutes a problem) but then spaced & missed the mates three times in a row. :cry:

When I do these puzzles the loud buzzing of my old laptop drives me damn near mad, worse than dripping water it is!

Hitting up three tournies in a row at the end of this month down in South Jersey. Well, first tourney is just a G-10 speed event, the next is a 5-round G-30 (in the Open section which will mostly be >1800's) and a G-60 quad.
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Re: chess

Postby Carlhole » Fri 19 Mar 2010, 01:01:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'G')ot my tactics rating up over 2000 on chesstempo.com but almost fell below again blowing three very difficult problems in the last move or two. I got all the preliminary moves (spending about 15 minutes a problem) but then spaced & missed the mates three times in a row. :cry:

When I do these puzzles the loud buzzing of my old laptop drives me damn near mad, worse than dripping water it is!

Hitting up three tournies in a row at the end of this month down in South Jersey. Well, first tourney is just a G-10 speed event, the next is a 5-round G-30 (in the Open section which will mostly be >1800's) and a G-60 quad.


I've been kicking some ass over at the St. Pete Chess Club. Although I KNOW I'm nothing special. I took out some of the stalwarts of the club yesterday: one of them with a Knight sac leading to mate. Another guy with a rook sac. One of them seemed pretty unsettled after the game, even though the tactic I used wasn't anything enormously complicated; it was something right out of Fred Reinfeld's "1001".

I'll play a tournament after a little while and see how I do.

In other news, I played an eleven year old Bulgarian kid there last Friday night. Enjoyed it. Good chess player, that kid! He got me 2 out of 3. So I'm gunning for the little bastard now.

I'm going to take a lesson from the kid's chess teacher on Saturday. We'll see how that goes. I was thinking I would be good at teaching chess to kids too.
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Re: chess

Postby Narz » Sun 21 Mar 2010, 20:56:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'S')o I'm gunning for the little bastard now.

This is half the fun of the game (creating & battling nemeses). :)

I did terribly at my last outing to my local chess club. Losing 4 of 4. Granted these were quick games but I hate losing so much, especially to players I feel I should be able to beat.

I only recorded my first game (the rest were G-15). I got in the hole early on & stayed there 'till the end.

[Event "BK Game"]
[Site "BK Northampton"]
[Date "2010.03.20"]
[White "Narz"]
[Black "Paul"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B22"]

1. e4 c5 2. c3 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. d4 e6 5. c4 Nb6 6. d5 d6 7. dxe6? Bxe6 8. Nf3 Nc6 9. exd6 Bxd6 10. Na3 O-O 11. Be2 Re8
12. O-O a6 13. b3 Bg4 14. Bb2 Qc7 15. h3 Bh5 16. Qc2 Bg6 17. Qc3 f6 18. Rfe1
Rad8 19. Rad1 Nb4 20. Qc1 Nxa2 21. Qa1 Nb4 22. Nh4 Nc2 23. Nxc2 Bxc2 24. Rc1
Bxb3 25. Bh5 Rxe1+ 26. Rxe1 Be5 27. Bxe5 fxe5 28. Qxe5 Qxe5 29. Rxe5 Nxc4 30.
Rxc5 b5 31. Bf3 Nd6 32. Kf1 a5 33. Ke1 a4 34. Bc6 Bc4 35. Nf3 Kf8 36. Nd2 Bd3
37. Kd1 Rc8 38. Rd5 Rxc6 39. Rxd3 0-1
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Re: chess

Postby Narz » Tue 30 Mar 2010, 00:10:23

Played in three tournaments back to back to back during this past (long) weekend (Fri, Sat & Sun). Here are a couple :

First Game vs. a Senior Master (71 year old Leroy Dubeck)

[Event "Cherry Hill Super Swiss, Open Section""]
[Site "Cherry Hill Library"]
[Date "2010.03.27"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Norris, Tony"]
[Black "Dubeck, Leroy"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B22"]
[WhiteElo "1905"]
[BlackElo "2228"]

1. e4 c5 2. c3 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 Bg4 6. dxc5 Qxd1+ 7. Kxd1 e5 8.
b4 e4 9. h3 Bh5 10. g4 Nxg4 11. hxg4 Bxg4 12. Nbd2 exf3 13. Bd3 Nd7 14. Re1+
Be7 15. Nc4 Kf8 16. Bf4 Nf6 17. Kc2 h5 18. a4 h4 19. Nd6 b6 20. c6 h3 21. Nf5
Nd5 22. Bh2 Bxb4 23. Kb3 Bc5 24. Kc4 0-1

At this point my clock dropped below five minutes & I ceased writing down moves. I was already lost at this point though I held on for 10-15 more moves before resigning. I was very pleased with how I came out of the opening but I was unable to turn the pressure I had on my opponent into a win & missed 22. ... Bxb4 destroying any further counterplay. :(

Third Round of a Quad the next day

[Event "ATKM Sun G-60 Quad"]
[Site "All the King's Men, Pitman, NJ"]
[Date "2010.03.28"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Norris, Tony"]
[Black "Leverich, Steven"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C55"]
[WhiteElo "1905"]
[BlackElo "1929"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Be7 4. d4 exd4 5. Nxd4
Nf6 6. Nc3 O-O 7. Nxc6 dxc6 8. O-O b5 9. Bd3 Be6 10. Be3 a6 11. Qd2 c5 12. f3
c4 13. Be2 Bc5 14. Qc1 Qe7 15. Nd1 Rad8 16. Bxc5 Qxc5+ 17. Qe3 Qxe3+ 18. Nxe3
Rd4 19. Rad1 Rfd8 20. Rxd4 Rxd4 21. Rd1 c5 22. c3 Rxd1+ 23. Bxd1 Nd7 24. f4 f6
25. Kf2 Nb6 26. Kf3 a5 27. e5 fxe5 28. fxe5 a4 29. a3 b4 30. cxb4 cxb4 31. axb4
c3 32. bxc3 Bb3 33. Bc2 Kf8 34. Ke4 g6 35. Kd4 Ke7 36. c4 Ke6 37. c5 Nd7 38.
Bxb3+ axb3 39. Kc3 b2 40. Kxb2 Nxe5 41. Kb3 h5 42. Ka4 g5 43. Kb5 Kd7 44. Kb6
Kc8 45. b5 Nd7+ 46. Kc6 g4 47. Kd6 Nf6 48. Ke6 Ne4 49. c6 1-0

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Stopped writing down moves after move 43 or 44 (my clock dropped below five) & got the rest from my opponent. I finally queened a pawn & won the game with four seconds left on my clock for the last 15 moves or so (thank goodness for time delay!).

I was very pleased with my endgame technique (overall that is, once I got really short of time I didn't play so accurately, my main aim was not to mess up & I eventually queened) & for liquidating out of a slightly inferior opening into a slightly superior endgame (though I missed a couple of moves in the process that probably would have been even better for me). Eventually my opponent crumbled under the pressure & made an unsound pawn sac.

I was 3-0 in the quad netting me $40, about 30 rating points & some points on the club ladder to boot. :)
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Re: chess

Postby Carlhole » Tue 30 Mar 2010, 17:48:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'I') was very pleased with my endgame technique...


What kind of numbers are you pulling at ChessTempo.com?

I'm trying to improve my game. Playing regularly at the chess club. Practicing. Reading. Doing tactical exercises at ChessTempo.

There's so much to learn and know about the game, I don't know where to focus first. It's daunting.
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Re: chess

Postby Narz » Tue 30 Mar 2010, 18:28:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'I') was very pleased with my endgame technique...


What kind of numbers are you pulling at ChessTempo.com?

My endgame ("theory" they call it) rating is just 1719. My regular tactics rating is 2029.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'I')'m trying to improve my game. Playing regularly at the chess club. Practicing. Reading. Doing tactical exercises at ChessTempo.

Sounds like a plan. What are you reading?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'T')here's so much to learn and know about the game, I don't know where to focus first. It's daunting.

Just focus anywhere. Tactics are probably the best place & they branch out as you like from there.
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Re: chess

Postby Carlhole » Wed 31 Mar 2010, 01:44:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'M')y regular tactics rating is 2029.


Damn, that's high! I'm having trouble cracking 1600. ...but I've only just joined the chess club and have only been working the tactical problems at ChessTempo for around 7 hours. They are not difficult really; it's the "Doh!" factor that I can't seem to dispell. Frustrating! I worked a bunch of problems tonight but just goofed 1/3 of them.

How long did it take you to work your way up to 2000?

I'm reading "My System" right now. And I'm playing M-W-F at the club for about 4 hours each time. Some days I seem to kick butt over there; other days I crawl home all bloody. I tried taking a lesson with someone but it was mostly a waste of money.

I'm trying to settle on some sort of methodical system for chess study. I've gotten to the point where I'm afraid to ask anyone for advice anymore because everybody has a different take. When I tell them what others have told me, they shake their heads, saying "No, no, no... Don't bother reading that until you've done such and such...".

I'm going to start playing tournaments at the club so that I can get some sort of rating. I probably play at around a 1500 level. Nothing to crow about. But it sure seems like I have some interesting games. People want to play me. And I'm definitely somewhere in the middle of the pack. The really good players come out on Friday nights for speed chess.

I've been enjoying playing this guy who always opens with a double fianchetto. I've eaten him alive a few times but he's also been able to capture games from me. I think I'd rather learn to play against a stronger opening than that one however. I'd like to learn the Najdorf, I think. I don't really know any openings.

Also, I torrented Fritz 12 and a megadatabase. But I don't really know how to use that resource very well. I get lost in it.

I bought an iPod Touch specifically for chess so I can sit in my armchair and play Shredder on it. It rates me a little less than 1500.

Sure hope I can improve my game. I've got plenty of time for it and the game sure is absorbing.
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Re: chess

Postby Narz » Wed 31 Mar 2010, 02:14:10

One more from Sunday's quads :

[Event "ATKM G-60 Quad"]
[Site "All the King's Men : Pitman, NJ"]
[Date "2010.03.28"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Abbott, Joe"]
[Black "Norris, Tony"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A25"]
[WhiteElo "1707"]
[BlackElo "1905"]

1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nc6 3. Bg2 f5 4. Nc3 Nf6
5. e3 d5 6. cxd5 Nb4 7. d4 e4 8. Nge2 Nd3+ 9. Kf1 Ng4 10. f3 Ngf2 11. Qa4+ Bd7
12. Qb3 Nxc1 13. Rxc1 Nxh1 14. Bxh1 exf3 15. Bxf3 Bd6 16. Nb5 Bxb5 17. Qxb5+
Qd7 18. Qxb7 O-O 19. b3 Rfe8 20. Kf2 Qe7 21. Rc3 g5 22. Qa6 Qf6 23. Qd3 Re7 24.
Qd2 Rae8 25. Qc1 Qh6 26. Qg1 g4 27. Bg2 Rxe3 28. Bf1 Rxc3 29. Nf4 Bxf4 30. gxf4
Qxf4+ 0-1

Despite being up the exchange Fritz judged the game as being fairly equal once the smoke settled. However very few players would rather play the white side of such a position. White's pieces were not very well coordinated & eventually he cracked under the pressure (26. Qg1?) and I won quite quickly after that.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'M')y regular tactics rating is 2029.


Damn, that's high! I'm having trouble cracking 1600. ...but I've only just joined the chess club and have only been working the tactical problems at ChessTempo for around 7 hours. They are not difficult really; it's the "Doh!" factor that I can't seem to dispell. Frustrating! I worked a bunch of problems tonight but just goofed 1/3 of them.

How long did it take you to work your way up to 2000?

The climb took quite awhile. About 500 problems. I got above 1800 then fell below again, noticed a fellow club member rated 1700 had a 1900 CT rating & resolved to beat that. Finally got above 1900, then went on a streak, gunning all the way up to 1980 in about a week. Then dropped back to 1940 & finally a couple weeks later broke 2000.

The key, for me, was to take my time. Some of the problems I spent literally 20-30 minutes on. Which wouldn't help me much in a G-30 but I hate G-30 anyway!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'I')'m reading "My System" right now. And I'm playing M-W-F at the club for about 4 hours each time. Some days I seem to kick butt over there; other days I crawl home all bloody. I tried taking a lesson with someone but it was mostly a waste of money.

I'm trying to settle on some sort of methodical system for chess study. I've gotten to the point where I'm afraid to ask anyone for advice anymore because everybody has a different take. When I tell them what others have told me, they shake their heads, saying "No, no, no... Don't bother reading that until you've done such and such...".

Sounds cliche but just find what works for you. Everyone's got a "system" (and most people don't follow their own :wink: ). One thing I'd recommend is record & analyze all your games.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'I')'m going to start playing tournaments at the club so that I can get some sort of rating. I probably play at around a 1500 level. Nothing to crow about. But it sure seems like I have some interesting games. People want to play me. And I'm definitely somewhere in the middle of the pack. The really good players come out on Friday nights for speed chess.

I've been enjoying playing this guy who always opens with a double fianchetto. I've eaten him alive a few times but he's also been able to capture games from me. I think I'd rather learn to play against a stronger opening than that one however. I'd like to learn the Najdorf, I think. I don't really know any openings.

Also, I torrented Fritz 12 and a megadatabase. But I don't really know how to use that resource very well. I get lost in it.

I bought an iPod Touch specifically for chess so I can sit in my armchair and play Shredder on it. It rates me a little less than 1500.

Sure hope I can improve my game. I've got plenty of time for it and the game sure is absorbing.

Keep at it & feel free to post your games here (with commentary ideally). It's a lifetime addiction & one of the healthier ones, IMO.
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Re: chess

Postby Carlhole » Sat 03 Apr 2010, 10:35:32

I mentioned that I'd been playing an 11-year old Bulgarian kid, right?

I've been winning a game here and there off him, but he's a little tactical genius. He's got a tactical rating on Chess.com of 2300 he tells me and plays around 1900 elo. He says he practices chess for about 5 hours each day. He's been taking lessons from chess master's for a few years, and his dad was a strongly rated player before he got too busy with work.

He's a real nice kid and we're becoming friends but I'm going to have to work my ass off to keep up with him. This week, I gotta figure out how to play against the Queen's Gambit (which I want to learn better myself). He doesn't mind concentrating on one opening.

Meanwhile, I continue to work tactics on ChessTempo and now have 1655. Yesterday, one of the guys over at the club told me he thought I was a solid 1700 player. It sure doesn't feel like it when I play the kid.
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Re: chess

Postby pablonite » Sat 10 Apr 2010, 15:12:39

http://chess.diem-project.org

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat it is

Diem Chess is open source software built on Diem 5.0.

You can play against crafty Artificial Intelligence or invite a friend to play with you.

No registration is required.
No flash nor other proprietary technology is used.

Available as a plugin: dmChessPlugin.

Tested with Firefox 3.5, Chrome, Safari an IE8.


Awesome for a quick web game.
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Re: chess

Postby Narz » Fri 30 Apr 2010, 20:41:15

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Re: chess

Postby Narz » Sat 08 May 2010, 00:42:13

I haven't slept well lately & have been playing a lot of blitz & bullet... which I'm generally not very good at... which generally is bad for my confidence... which triggers all sorts of psychological issues that make me want to play more blitz to prove I can play better. But I can't seem to play it all that well. Even as my USCF has jumped 450 points my blitz game seems to remain fairly stagnant (though I have done ok in G-10 tournies OTB, I usually play better OTB in general).

So I wisely decided to take a break from blitz (swearing it off for some time I hope!) and I played a longer game online tonight (25 with 5 sec inc.).

Fairly pleased with the game, fun & sacrificial (though I'm not sure how perfectly sound my sacs were against best play). Supposedly my opponent was a USCF expert but who knows online.

http://www.chess.com/livechess/game.html?id=23435188

[Event "Live Chess"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2010.05.07"]
[White "Narz"]
[Black "BehemothTheCat"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1696"]
[BlackElo "1760"]
[TimeControl "25|5"]
[Termination "Narz won by resignation"]

1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.d4 cxd4 5.Qxd4 e6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Qe4 f5 8.Qe2 b6 9.g3 Bb7 10.Bg2 Qc7
11.O-O Nde7 12.c4 Ng6 13.Bf4 Be7 14.Nc3 a6 15.Rad1 O-O 16.h4 Nxf4 17.gxf4 Rfe8 18.Ng5 h6 19.Qh5 Rf8 20.Nd5 exd5
21.Bxd5+ Kh8 22.Qg6 Bxg5 23.hxg5 Nxe5 24.fxe5 Bxd5 25.gxh6 d6 26.exd6 Qf7 27.hxg7+ Qxg7 28.Qxg7+ Kxg7 29.Rxd5 Kf6 1-0

Kind of wish he didn't resign because I need to work on my endgames!
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Re: chess

Postby Narz » Tue 11 May 2010, 23:25:20

This is what chess is all about. 8)

http://www.chess.com/livechess/game.html?id=24125794

Yeah, I know, my blitz rating is terrible!
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Re: chess

Postby Narz » Fri 28 May 2010, 12:40:56

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Re: chess

Postby Cid_Yama » Fri 28 May 2010, 15:10:16

Might I suggest studying the Nimzo-Indian Defence, the Rubenstein system(White's counter), the Karpov Variation(Black's counter to Rubenstein), and the Kasparov Variation(to counter Karpov).

Variations of these have dominated Grandmaster play.
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Re: chess

Postby Narz » Thu 10 Jun 2010, 21:30:01

I have a book which recommends the Nimzo-Indian but I prefer d5 against d4.

Here's a recent game where I bested an expert. I missed some very pretty tactics (well saw them but miscalculated so decided to play it safe, specifically - 35. d7! and 40. Ke5!) but managed to pull off the win in the endgame anyway. We are playing a series, first player to 6 wins wins the match. :)

[Event "Match Game 1"]
[Site "Glen Rock Library"]
[Date "2010.06.10"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Norris, Tony"]
[Black "Grasser, George"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B22"]
[WhiteElo "1938"]
[BlackElo "2001"]

1. e4 c5 2. c3 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4 Nf6 5. Nf3 Bg4 6. dxc5 Qxd1+ 7. Kxd1 e5 8.
b4 e4 9. h3 Bh5 10. g4 Nxg4 11. hxg4 Bxg4 12. Nbd2 exf3 13. Bd3 Be7 14. Re1 Kf8
15. Nc4 Nc6 16. Kc2 Bf6 17. a3 g6 18. Bf4 Ne7 19. Bh6+ Kg8 20. Nd6 Nd5 21. c4
Bxa1 22. cxd5 Bg7 23. Bf4 b6 24. c6 h5 {black offers draw} 25. Ba6 Bd4 26. Be3 Bxe3 27. Rxe3 Rd8
28. Ne8 f5 29. c7 Ra8 30. d6 f4 31. Re7 Rh6 32. Bb7 Rxe8 33. Rxe8+ Kf7 34. Re7+
Kf8 35. c8=Q+ Bxc8 36. Bxc8 g5 37. Be6 Rf6 38. Kd3 g4 39. Ke4 g3 40. Kxf3 h4
41. Bc4 Rxd6 42. Rxa7 h3 43. fxg3 h2 44. Rh7 fxg3 45. Kxg3 Rc6 46. Bf1 Rc3+ 47.
Kxh2 Rxa3 48. Rb7 Ke8 49. Rxb6 Kd7 50. b5 Kc7 51. Rc6+ Kb7 52. Bg2 Kb8 53. b6
Rb3 54. Rd6 Kc8 55. b7+ Kc7 56. Rc6+ Kb8 57. Rc8+ Ka7 58. Ra8+ 1-0
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Re: chess

Postby Cid_Yama » Fri 11 Jun 2010, 17:16:48

By studying the above, you will be prepared to recognize and meet them when they are used against you. As you get to higher levels, you don't want to be taken advantage of.

The higher you go in competition, the more it becomes a matter of recognizing what your opponent is up to, as opposed to knowing what you are doing.

Since others have covered that territory before you, it is always wise to take advantage of the lessons they have learned.
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