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THE Mutant Zombie Hordes Thread pt 2 (merged)

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Re: Insert your Zombie jokes here

Unread postby Pops » Thu 01 Oct 2009, 21:24:20

I asked the old "rebel" down the road how to go about buying a couple plots at the cemetery just up the road. He said you can give me a check just whenever you want but it's pretty expensive, $350 for 6 plots!

I about needed one right there!

Its a cool old place, the simple stones are civil war.

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Re: Insert your Zombie jokes here

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 01 Oct 2009, 21:39:50

How bout hauling cadavers into an open sea and dropping them there for a fee? It should be cheaper than cremation.
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Re: Insert your Zombie jokes here

Unread postby pup55 » Thu 01 Oct 2009, 21:43:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here's no reason it needs to be some outrageously expensive process.


True, but there is some reason for the process to be regulated a bit. In northwest Georgia a few years ago, a fellow, Ray Brent Marsh, owner of a crematorium, decided that all of the expense, effort and energy used in the cremation process was a waste, and decided to just chuck the bodies out in the back of his big place out in the country, rather than cremate them like he was supposed to. Eventually the whole thing came to light and there were several hundred of them dug up and some never were identified,

It is quite true that this fellow was supposedly part of the system, and once he eventually gets out from behind bars, I suppose he will have to deal with the numerous relatives that are still around up there....

But, for the common good, it makes sense to me to have some standards and/or regulation on this, to discourage the fly by nighters and true con artists from causing a public spectacle.
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Re: Insert your Zombie jokes here

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Thu 01 Oct 2009, 21:59:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'H')ow bout hauling cadavers into an open sea and dropping them there for a fee? It should be cheaper than cremation.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial_at_sea

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut, for the common good, it makes sense to me to have some standards and/or regulation on this, to discourage the fly by nighters and true con artists from causing a public spectacle.


I don't have so much of a problem with regulating people who make a business of disposing of the dead. Most of the regulations are designed to prevent or intimidate families from doing it themselves without involving undertakers. I don't really think the family is likely to just chuck uncle cecil out behind the shed. In Washington state you can't bury a body without using a licensed grave yard (unless you own your own island oddly enough). Most licensed graveyards require that you use a funeral home, buy a concrete vault, etc. I'm fine with logical health based regulation: bury them at least 5 feet down, don't bury them within 100 feet of a wetland or moving stream, etc. If you start requiring the involvement of the death industry, you make death into another obscene, wasteful consumer spectacle.
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Re: Insert your Zombie jokes here

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Thu 01 Oct 2009, 22:02:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'I')ts a cool old place, the simple stones are civil war.


That does look like a cool place pops.
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Re: Insert your Zombie jokes here

Unread postby JJ » Thu 01 Oct 2009, 22:27:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '
')Of course, like everyone else, all the morticians have managed to get a bunch of BS laws passed to make it hard to do your own funeral and burial.



It's mostly a scam - many states do not require embalming or other "mortuary services." But the mortuaries know people won't check the laws in their state.

http://www.cemeteries-of-tx.com/LAWS.htm


one of the local morticians comes into produce each night. I asked him if, when my wife dies (if she dies first) can I just lay her out on a board in the living room like they do in the Philippines, he said yes, most people don't know about that, but yes. he said I'd have to jump through a few hoops, but yes. Bing won't even talk about it.
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Re: Insert your Zombie jokes here

Unread postby sittinguy » Thu 01 Oct 2009, 23:05:54

I hear that you can have a diamond made out of your loved ones ashes. That would be cool/creepy
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Re: Insert your Zombie jokes here

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Thu 01 Oct 2009, 23:29:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sittinguy', 'I') hear that you can have a diamond made out of your loved ones ashes. That would be cool/creepy


I'm pretty sure that's not true. Diamonds are made of carbon. All the carbon in the body burns off during the cremation process. What's left is mostly metal oxides. There is however, a large assortment of jewelry options for wearing the cremated remains of a loved one: http://www.cremationjewelry.net/
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Re: Insert your Zombie jokes here

Unread postby efarmer » Fri 02 Oct 2009, 10:50:56

Since a zombie is a walking dead person, they would be hard to bury.

Not really a zombie joke, but it is all I had to go with.

Reminds me of the story of the guy who wished to be buried with
money all over his chest laying in the front seat of his Cadillac.
As they winched it down into the hole, one grave digger said to
another:

"Wow, that's really living, ain't it?"
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Re: Insert your Zombie jokes here

Unread postby JJ » Fri 02 Oct 2009, 12:43:34

heard Jimmy Kennedy died....
heard they had a heck of a time getting him in the coffin...
http://www.stinalisa.com/HokeyPokey.html
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Re: Insert your Zombie jokes here

Unread postby AlexdeLarge » Sat 03 Oct 2009, 15:22:52

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Viddy well, little brother. Viddy well.
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Article: "All You Zombies"

Unread postby deMolay » Wed 25 Nov 2009, 11:59:29

Article by James Quinn link
"We Are All Travellers, From The Sweet Grass To The Packing House, From Birth To Death, We Wander Between The Two Eternities". An Old Cowboy.
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Re: All You Zombies

Unread postby efarmer » Wed 25 Nov 2009, 13:16:43

Bullseye, Mr. Quinn, and a great find deMolay.

I personally was fascinated the most by the deal where half of us
were rabid liberals sucking the guts out of America and the other half
were pious Christian conservatives, rolling back evil government to
let the pure light of capitalism shine into our hearts, and trickle down
and spritz the little people.

That was such a great sham, if they wouldn't have robbed me, I would
gladly have paid for the show anyway.

We divided up and had us a culture war extraordinaire my fellow
Americans. We didn't let up until we kicked our ass good.

So tell me, are you liberally or conservatively broke and disenfranchised?
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Re: All You Zombies

Unread postby mos6507 » Wed 25 Nov 2009, 13:58:00

There is a lot of good stuff here, but it ends on a typical "our leaders have failed us, so buy a gun and be ready to fend off the jack boot thugs" meme. I mean, if the problem is just our leaders then why all that stuff in the middle section about consumerism, with the pictures of the guy walking his dog in the SUV and such? I'm sorry. We get the leaders we deserve. Until we change how people think and what they value, it won't matter if we have a civil war. BTW, Ron Paul is not a peaker nor much of an environmentalist. He would have been no panacea.
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Re: All You Zombies

Unread postby davep » Wed 25 Nov 2009, 14:18:12

Top dooming! RE would have been proud.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s individuals, we also had the opportunity to prepare. Did you harvest the crops, fatten the livestock, cut the firewood, stockpile the propane, hoard ammunition and batten down your farmstead? Did you deepen your relationships with family and neighbors who would support you during a Crisis?


I think a fair few of us can tick most of those boxes (I'm ok apart from the propane, which is superfluous IMO).

I enjoyed the Dark Side of The Moon reference. But what is this 'Fourth Turning' thing all about? Is it a religious reference?
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Re: All You Zombies

Unread postby DomusAlbion » Wed 25 Nov 2009, 14:21:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'I') enjoyed the Dark Side of The Moon reference. But what is this 'Fourth Turning' thing all about? Is it a religious reference?
A fine book aout our pending crisis the new "Age of Consequences". amazon
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Re: All You Zombies

Unread postby davep » Wed 25 Nov 2009, 14:23:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DomusAlbion', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', 'I') enjoyed the Dark Side of The Moon reference. But what is this 'Fourth Turning' thing all about? Is it a religious reference?
A fine book aout our pending crisis new Age of Consequences.
I gathered it was a book. I just wanted to know what the third and fourth turning things were all about (and while we're at it, the first two). Can someone post a quick precis?
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Re: All You Zombies

Unread postby davep » Wed 25 Nov 2009, 14:26:15

Aha! From a review of the book:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he theory is basically that history goes through four types of turnings: a conservative High, in which institutions are stable after the success of a major war (the Era of Good Feelings, the Victorian Era, the '50s), a spiritual Awakening in which young people scrap convention for religious discovery (Ben Franklin's Great Awakening, the Transcendental Awakening, the turn-of-the-century Muckrake reform era, the '60s), a wild Unravelling (the colorful Gold Rush, the roaring twenties, and the current era that began about 1984), and a fourth turning -- or Crisis (the Revolutionary War, the Civil War and the Great Depression and World War II were the last three examples).
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Re: Article: "All You Zombies"

Unread postby oowolf » Wed 25 Nov 2009, 18:29:12

Never been to theburningplatform.com before. It's "our" kind of blog, for sure: Some serious political/economic/societal doomfesting.
TOD and Energy Bulletin have gotten seriously doomerish also.

(back to the woods now..)
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Re: Article: "All You Zombies"

Unread postby Novus » Thu 26 Nov 2009, 21:05:08

All dead on with this essay except for the 4th turning non-sense.
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