$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TonyPrep', 'I') think it's also worth repeating, from time to time, that OF2 does not want any mitigation actions to occur, even if he does realise that peak is close. He doesn't think human societies should ever prepare for scenarios that they may deduce, from time to time. He thinks adaptation at the time the problem arises, is the best course. OF2 wants us to treat natural limits in the same way we would some unanticipated natural disasters (like asteroid strikes, supervolcanoes, etc). This almost certainly goes for climate change mitigation also.

So readers of his posts should understand that his goal is that we should never mitigate against future problems.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheAntiDoomer', 'H')uh? Dude, respond to the info I posted please. Does or does not Estonia generate a vast majority of its electricity from Oil Shale? We can have a healthy debate on whether or not Oil Shale will be a viable fuel (I say it will at some point with a techno breakthrough) but what is perfectly clear is Oil Shale IS a viable energy source.

You dissapoint me dude, you use to be a nearly reasonable poster, but lately you seemed to have gone off to the Lunatic Fringe.

[TonyPrep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'M')ore falsities.

[TonyPrep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheAntiDoomer', 'w')hat is perfectly clear is Oil Shale IS a viable energy source

[copious.abundance]

One way or another they'll figure out a cheap way to tap this baby.

>>> OGJ <<<
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Heater cable used for shale oil recovery
Nick Snow
OGJ Washington Editor

WASHINGTON, DC, Apr. 7 -- A technology as simple as an advanced heater cable could hold the key to tapping vast US oil shale resources without mining, the US Department of Energy's Fossil Energy Office said.

Composite Technology Development Inc., a Lafayette, Colo., engineering and technology development company, has demonstrated the application of a ceramic-composite insulated cable for oil shale recovery, DOE said.

"With DOE's support over two phases of this project, CTD has demonstrated a way to tap into the western oil shale resources. With two-thirds of the world's supply of oil shale in the United States, technologies such as this can go a long way toward bolstering the development of our domestic energy resources, creating jobs, and supporting energy security," said Victor K. Der, acting assistant US energy secretary for fossil energy.

DOE said CTD researchers tested its cable for 5,000 continuous hours at temperatures of 760-850° C. During tests, the cable overcame many limitations of existing cables including conductor instability, moisture-induced degradation, and operating temperatures.

CTD's work was done as a small business innovation research project through the Fossil Energy Office's oil and gas program, and the project was managed by DOE's National Energy Technology Laboratory.

CTD's heater cable test holds promise for in-situ heating of the shale oil to a depth of 5,000 ft, separating the kerogen without having to mine the rock, DOE said. If underground tests of the cable succeed, operators could extract a petroleum-like liquid fluid enough to be pumped to the surface, it said.

Such a process could cut shale oil recovery costs in half and address environmental impacts by eliminating mining and part of the large-scale processing associated with current oil shale technology, according to DOE.

[Vogelzang]

Oil shale in Estonia.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/24/ ... stonia.pdf (10.7 MB)

Fossil fuels will continue to be used in spite of the paranoid masterbation on this forum.

[TonyPrep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Vogelzang', 'O')il shale in Estonia.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/24/ ... stonia.pdf (10.7 MB)

Fossil fuels will continue to be used in spite of the paranoid masterbation on this forum.

[Oerdin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dbruning', '1').53 Trillion...that is a lot of oil! Good news indeed.

Of course the 2nd paragraph does say: "There is no economically viable method of extracting it" - but why let things like that get in the way.

On the other hand, perhaps someone will one day figure out a way to get at it.

[rangerone314]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheAntiDoomer', 'H')uh? Dude, respond to the info I posted please. Does or does not Estonia generate a vast majority of its electricity from Oil Shale? We can have a healthy debate on whether or not Oil Shale will be a viable fuel (I say it will at some point with a techno breakthrough) but what is perfectly clear is Oil Shale IS a viable energy source.

You dissapoint me dude, you use to be a nearly reasonable poster, but lately you seemed to have gone off to the Lunatic Fringe.

[copious.abundance]

>>> LINK <<<
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]General Synfuels to Test Oil Shale Technology in Wyoming and Colorado
Company predicts breakthrough technology will drastically cut oil shale recovery costs and minimize environmental impacts

BOSTON, April 27 /PRNewswire/ -- General Synfuels International (GSI) - a wholly-owned subsidiary of Earth Search Sciences, Inc., (OTCBulletinBoard: ESSE) - today announced the company has secured an exploration agreement for lands in Wyoming and rights to a separate oil shale resource opportunity in Colorado. Collectively, the agreements will allow the company to test and develop the company's patented technology to recover hydrocarbons from oil shale, oil sands and heavy oil using its patented process that prioritizes environmental sensitivity.

The exploration agreement with a subsidiary of Anadarko Petroleum Corporation in Wyoming covers approximately 160 acres near Rock Springs on a Union Pacific Railroad section upon which GSI plans to carry out its proof-of-concept test under stringent environmental guidelines.

The Colorado opportunity provides GSI access to approximately 500 acres of private, oil-shale-rich land in the Piceance Basin, with the potential - based upon core analysis and geologic data - to recover approximately 700 million barrels of oil, or oil equivalents, in the near term. GSI believes results should be known within the next 24 months. The company is also evaluating an additional 2,500 acres of oil shale mineral rights in the same area of Colorado and is in the process of investigating how many barrels of oil are in place.

[...]

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'W')ho the f#ck is Earth Search Sciences, Inc.?

A penny stock.

[AirlinePilot]

OF,

Call us back in 50 years when this is actually producing measurable commercial quantities of usable Kerogen for refining.
Make sure you read that statement carefully. My educated and objective guess at the moment is that it takes at least that long
and it may never actually work out.

You need to add another definition to your reportoire:

Stock pumping.

You don't recognize it when it's plain as the nose on your cornucopian face.

[copious.abundance]

I own no stock in any company anywhere.

And I'm sure this company is lying about their test.

Try again!

[copious.abundance]

And if I may say so . . .

You "oil shale will never happen" crowd are taking a huge risk in your nonstop proclamations that oil shale is never going to happen. Why? Because if it does someday happen, you will never hear the end of it from us Cornucopians. Your nonstop and incessant claims about its lack of viability will discredit your own movement even more than it already has if and when they start turning this stuff into gasoline and cars start running on it. One would think y'all would have learned the lesson to "never say never" after so many of you last spring and summer said that oil would "never" go below $100 again. But it looks like you haven't.

But hey, if you want to set yourself up for a potential big embarrassment, go ahead!