[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I')s that the best you can do?

[rangerone314]

I read OF2's first article. Here is an extract:

Water is another worry. ICP uses a lot of water, mainly to refine the oil and purify the natural gas. (Shell plans on building a refinery onsite, which is news in itself: It would be the first new refinery built in the U.S. in 30 years.) Shell appears to be on solid legal footing with its water plans, as it owns senior rights for local river water.

And some of the water it intends to utilize will be salinated water pumped from deep aquifers that are not part of the conventional water supply. Nevertheless, the potential for political backlash remains high, given that this is a part of the country where water is scarce and fights over water rights get nasty. "It will certainly be an issue," says former Rifle mayor David Ling. "There's an old expression around here: We talk over whiskey and fight over water."



90% of water usage in Estonia is dedicated to shale.

[rangerone314]

Water is going to end up being a resource as valuable as oil. Using vast quantities of water to get kerogen from shale is a bit like using vast amounts of energy to turn lead into gold.

[copious.abundance]

Not all of these oil shale extraction technologies will need to use large amounts of water. For instance there is the microwaving option:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')lobal Resource Corporation, through lab experimentation, has identified that there is great potential in utilizing microwave technology to extract hydrocarbons from oil shale. GRC's technology does not require water as part of the process. Our studies indicate that we have the ability to retrieve 90 gallons of oil per ton of shale.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'N')ot all of these oil shale extraction technologies will need to use large amounts of water. For instance there is the microwaving option:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')lobal Resource Corporation, through lab experimentation, has identified that there is great potential in utilizing microwave technology to extract hydrocarbons from oil shale. GRC's technology does not require water as part of the process. Our studies indicate that we have the ability to retrieve 90 gallons of oil per ton of shale.

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'D')o you have a microwave in your kitchen? Sure you do? You could put your brain inside the device and it would turn into guacamole. Now just for fun, lick the door on the outside. Tongue hot????? No.

How will the microwaves penetrate rock and tar?

[copious.abundance]

Here's a couple other people who are microwaving rocks:
http://www.newscientist.com/blog/invent ... drill.html
http://www.economist.com/science/displa ... E1_TGPNDRQ

But if you go home and put a rock in your microwave, make sure it's the right kind, otherwise you might ruin your microwave oven!

[copious.abundance]

Another utterly idiotic response.

Dimwit, when you put a microwave-safe dish in your microwave oven, nothing happens to it. Do you think they would put something down the hole that would melt?

By your lame-brained logic, the interior of a microwave oven would always melt when you turned it on.



I guess you've never used a microwave oven!

[bencole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', 'N')ot all of these oil shale extraction technologies will need to use large amounts of water. For instance there is the microwaving option:

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bencole', 'A')ll this means is yet another energy input is required for this process. This does nothing for the problem of low EROEI is just merely substitutes one energy intensive extraction process for another.

[copious.abundance]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'D')o you actually expect to become a rangy oil-hunter writing this kind of shite?