[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') should think that somewhere along the line there is an individual who serves as representative of the state in such instances. I would assume that the burden of such decisions would rest upon that person's shoulders.

[SeaGypsy]

I don't know about anyone else but I'm done with driving this camel; I could easy drive a truck through TW's baloneye of the needle.

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote(' TWilliam', 'T')hat's ok deMolay. Ludi thinks that because I would prefer to see certain groups of people --namely those that are most likely to be first ravaged or abandoned if/when societal collapse occurs-- compassionately euthanized rather than left to fend for themselves, that I'm therefore an evil bastard. Realists are frequently thought of as such by Idealists. I don't mind...

[vision-master]

Let the truth be known.

[Ludi]

Yep, I plan to fend for myself. If I can't fend for myself, I'd prefer not to be murdered, but be allowed to die under a tree (or in my bed, or in a pool of my own filth, etc).

I might change my mind when I get to that point, but the idea of someone else deciding to "cut my rope" or "cull" me gives me the heebie jeebies.

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'b')ut the idea of someone else deciding to "cut my rope" or "cull" me gives me the heebie jeebies.

[vision-master]

From my cold dead hands

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'b')ut the idea of someone else deciding to "cut my rope" or "cull" me gives me the heebie jeebies.

[SeaGypsy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('simplelife', '
')
I all for justice and punishing anyone who has actually commited a CRIME. The reality is most "pigmen" are just like you and me, a mix of good and bad, simply hard working people with morals that give to charity and love their family and nieghbors and try to do the best they can.

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'S')orry folks can someone PM me on how to do quotes properly?

[SeaGypsy]

Looks like this thread is a fate acompli?

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '[')b]If they are unrepentant sinners who believe rich people deserve their wealth and they can own part of the earth exclusive of others, then they will be found out in the Auto-da-fe, and after confessing their sins they will go the way everyone else went in the last Inquisition

[SeaGypsy]

I would hazard a guess that a lot of die off will naturally occur at this end of the spectrum. Especially via suicide. Once forced to confront physical reality without all the social props of the age what have these guys got to live for? Just the lack of ability to help their own children cope will be a shame capable of driving people over the edge.
They will take as many as they can with them on the way out. So don't be expecting the Pigmen to help you when push comes to shove. Get out while the gettin's good. It looks like a convenient bubble is being blown.
What better time to check out the options and take one of them?

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'I') would hazard a guess that a lot of die off will naturally occur at this end of the spectrum. Especially via suicide.

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'M')ost of the folks here have a fairly lopsided viewpoint that equates Poverty with Parasitism. Though bothered by the bailouts, they still don't really view Pigmen as Parasites if they are Honest Pigmen who just made their money through a good invention they marketed or got rich the old fashioned way, by inheritance. There is a cognitive dissonance with the concept that you get rich through hard work and entrepreneurial spirit, and of course its only lazy and stupid people who are poor.

Most of the folks on this board come from the cultures which were the greatest beneficiaries both of Capitalism and of Oil. The fact that both these things savaged the earth and led to outrageous discrepancies int he distribution of wealth around the planet still doesn't equate in their minds with parasitism. So when a thread like this comes up, its the Welfare Moms, the Illegal Aliens and the perpetually impoverished continent of Africa that get tagged with the "parasite" label.

Even among those who agree with many of my posts, you won't find too many who support my Inquisition style of Justice brought down as Righteous Thunder from God on the Pigmen. Its just a little too difficult for them to accept the idea that merely being outrageously rich makes you a parasite on humanity, effectively vermin in need of erradication. However, as long as you have one crew of people here arguing for Fascist solutions that eliminate the poor of the world, I'll come back and argue for an Auto-da-fe and Spanish Inquisition that will REALLY do the job of eliminating the RIGHT vermin off the face of the earth

The Meek will Inherit the Earth, but the Meek need some help because unfortunately you can't just argue the truly Evil into submission, you have to fight fire with fire here. If you vote for Fascism, I'll vote for the Inquisition You pull a Knife, I will pull a Gun. You send one of my ideas to the Hospital, I will send one of yours to the MORGUE. That's the Chicago Way

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 'O')r as I suggested to Ludi back at the beginning of this thread, "one who demonstrates an ongoing pattern of accepting communal welfare (of whatever kind), while also demonstrating little to no interest in becoming self-supporting or in at least contributing in some significant manner

[SeaGypsy]

What is it that our children do for us to earn their food?
What about our pets?
Babies in the womb?

What the heck have Pigmens shoes got to do with any of it?

I'm not jealous of anything about them; I am related to several.
I have never seen such in human lack of charity as from these most priveleged of people.

My fathers brother is a bible thumping baptist billionaire who let his brother die rather than fork out $50k for a bone marrow transplant.

My mothers whole family have been fighting over another billionaires will since 1974.

They are miserable and when the money becomes as toilet paper their lives will mean nothing to them any longer.

[TWilliam]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'T')his would then by definition include all the Banksters working for AIG who are receiving ongoing Welfare, along with all the Real Estate Moguls about to be Obamouted for their bad bets in Commercial Real Estate, etc.

You would agree with me that all these Welfare Pigmen should be required to pay for their sins, and since they took WAY more money then any welfare mom ever did, their punishment should be commesurately more harsh?

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'T')his would then by definition include all the Banksters working for AIG who are receiving ongoing Welfare, along with all the Real Estate Moguls about to be Obamouted for their bad bets in Commercial Real Estate, etc.

You would agree with me that all these Welfare Pigmen should be required to pay for their sins, and since they took WAY more money then any welfare mom ever did, their punishment should be commesurately more harsh?

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'W')hat is it that our children do for us to earn their food?
What about our pets?
Babies in the womb?