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Who is a "parasite"?

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby Ludi » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 10:46:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', ' ')Let's collectively grow up a little and see if we can get anywhere on this deliberately provocative thread by the illustrious TWilliam?

We're back to trying to figure out who to kill.

Who would you like to (legally) kill, SeaGypsy?
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby vision-master » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 11:38:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'Y')ou are an ignorant fool, self-declared Engineer. Bankers, all kinds of governors, obamas, ets, all those you hate most by no means are parasites. They are predators. They will take what they want one way or another. If your silly dream wll come true one day, as it did for example in Russia of 1917, one batch of predators will be gone and you will be fucke.d by another on a regular basis. There is always someone on top, mind me reminding you.

Predators actually make attacks that are identifiable. Parasites suck off unsuspecting hosts that don;t notice them until they suck out too much. Banksters are Parasites, not Predators. Yeah? And all these recent bailouts what were they? A non-identifiable attack on unsuspecting hosts?
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I had never said anything like that. Another horseshit branded "RE"$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '[')when you are a perfect example of someone lacking in intelligence. What was your SAT score anyhow? I'll bet it wasn't better than 1300 based on what you write. Not that we will ever get the truth on that though.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby Ferretlover » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 12:25:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', ' ')Let's collectively grow up a little and see if we can get anywhere on this deliberately provocative thread by the illustrious TWilliam?

We're back to trying to figure out who to kill. Who would you like to (legally) kill, SeaGypsy?

I don't think there will be a need to actively seek out those to kill; it will be more a matter of 'benign neglect.' Or, if you prefer, different levels of community triage.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby Ludi » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 12:40:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '
')I don't think there will be a need to actively seek out those to kill; it will be more a matter of 'benign neglect.' Or, if you prefer, different levels of community triage.


I agree. In hard times, people are pretty good at dying on their own - they don't really need us to help them in that direction.


Some people don't want to "benignly neglect" the "Pigmen/parasites" though.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby TWilliam » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 13:46:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'S')ome people don't want to "benignly neglect" the "Pigmen/parasites" though.

When it comes down to it, I suspect it will largely be the 'Pigmen' who are doing most of the 'benign neglecting'. Unless RE manages to get his crusade to prevent that going...
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby Ludi » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 13:49:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', ' ')Unless RE manages to get his crusade to prevent that going...



Which seems to be to kill the Pigmen (legally of course). I'm not sure how more benignly neglectful someone can be than when they're dead. I don't expect dead Pigmen to be more generous than live ones. :|
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby ReverseEngineer » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 14:49:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'S')ome people don't want to "benignly neglect" the "Pigmen/parasites" though.

When it comes down to it, I suspect it will largely be the 'Pigmen' who are doing most of the 'benign neglecting'. Unless RE manages to get his crusade to prevent that going...


I'm not suppoting a Crusade. I am supporting the Inquisition.

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby rangerone314 » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 21:51:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'S')ome people don't want to "benignly neglect" the "Pigmen/parasites" though.
When it comes down to it, I suspect it will largely be the 'Pigmen' who are doing most of the 'benign neglecting'. Unless RE manages to get his crusade to prevent that going...
I'm not suppoting a Crusade. I am supporting the Inquisition.

Considering the # of innocent people that die in wars, and that wars are usually fought to fatten the coffers of rich f**kers, I'm surprised anyone would be morally opposed to wiping out the rich f**kers en masse.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby SeaGypsy » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 22:08:07

The problem I have with the Inquisition is that it serves another bunch of elites. Millions of women were burned at the stake for such witchcraft as midwifery, herbal medicine, failing to acknowlege the virgin birth and saviour, or simply questioning the authority of the Church or fuedal Lord in power over their lives. Refusing to submit your 1st born daughters to rape by the Lord was punishable by banishment or death.
I hope RE is not really suggesting a repeat of this hideous manipulation by the Catholic Church? Because if so I will be fighting the Church with as much vigor as I would fight a Fascist State. 8)
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby ReverseEngineer » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 22:59:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'T')he problem I have with the Inquisition is that it serves another bunch of elites. Millions of women were burned at the stake for such witchcraft as midwifery, herbal medicine, failing to acknowlege the virgin birth and saviour, or simply questioning the authority of the Church or fuedal Lord in power over their lives. Refusing to submit your 1st born daughters to rape by the Lord was punishable by banishment or death.
I hope RE is not really suggesting a repeat of this hideous manipulation by the Catholic Church? Because if so I will be fighting the Church with as much vigor as I would fight a Fascist State. 8)


Well, I certainly wouldn't want the Catholics to run the Inquisition this time. They picked all the WRONG people to burn at the stake. The key is to construct your legal system so the RIGHT people are found GUILTY. One good test might be to have a Pigman fill his pockets with as much Gold as he is worth and see if he floats. If he sinks, he's Guilty :-) Or you could drop a Gold Brick from the top of a tree on his head. If it bounces off his head he's Innocent. If you have gray matter staining the sidewalk, he was Guilty. Or you could feed him Gold Coins for a month and if he doesn't starve, he's Innocent also.

Now of course you will argue that now you have a NEW Elite, the Inquisitors. You don't want to give anyone that kind of power for too long, so basically you Rotate your Inquisitors through the population. Everybody gets to be Inquisitor for a day. It would behoove you NOT to piss anybody else off by sucking up their wealth, because of course you'll eventually have to face that person down in the Inquisition. To keep the mayhem down, you could limit the number of people a given Inquistor can try in a day to 10 maybe?

This Inquisition isn't about who you think the right God is, its about the MONEY. Its about how you treat your fellow man. This is a lot more tangible than trying to figure out who the right God is, so I think it can be done more fairly than the Spanish Inquisition. Its a lot easier to figure out who a complete Scumbag is than it is to figure out who the right God is of course.

Is it a perfect solution? Of course its not. No doubt, a few Innocent Eggs will get broken here along with the Guilty Eggs. Regardless, we clearly are in need of a Social Enema here. The shit has been backing up for far too long in the colon of society. Once you flush the worst of the offenders down the toilet here though, we'll be a lot better off. I think few people in the future would be interested in becoming filthy rich if the consequences were being charged in an Auto da fe, don't you?

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby SeaGypsy » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 23:21:38

What about the potential for corruption?

Me and my friends make a big show of giving away a lot of gold; then hide the rest away. When it comes time for the Auto de fe we make sure the 1st one of us to be Inquisitor for a day absolves the rest.

Much like the Catholics selling forgiveness.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby ReverseEngineer » Sun 15 Mar 2009, 23:33:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'W')hat about the potential for corruption?

Me and my friends make a big show of giving away a lot of gold; then hide the rest away. When it comes time for the Auto de fe we make sure the 1st one of us to be Inquisitor for a day absolves the rest.

Much like the Catholics selling forgiveness.


You can't really hide Gold, because in order to be useful you have to SPEND it. As soon as you spend an American Eagle, you will be found out as a Hoarder.

Nevertheless, corruption will always be around, there will always be people trying to sneak around the system. However, with everybody watching everybody else and looking for signs that person is accumulating outrageous wealth, it will be hard to do it. It also wouldn't make sense to do it since it makes you a target of the Inquisition. People would however be encouraged to work hard for the community, since if you help the community you also will be better off. Besides, you can also make some laws against being Slothful as well as being Greedy. You can certainly try people for Parasitical behavior sucking off everyone else and not working.

The successful person in such a society who avoids being targeted by the Inquisition would be a hard worker who takes only as much as he needs from the society, and who produces some surplus to give back to the community. This would gain you Status in the society. People on either end however who are too Greedy or too Slothful would be targets for the Auto da Fe.

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby Ludi » Mon 16 Mar 2009, 17:24:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')The successful person in such a society who avoids being targeted by the Inquisition would be a hard worker



Oh well, I guess I'm in for the chop.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby davep » Mon 16 Mar 2009, 17:49:58

Sloth is a much underrated quality in these times of dizzying destructive efficiency 8)
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby Jack » Tue 17 Mar 2009, 23:47:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'T')he successful person in such a society who avoids being targeted by the Inquisition would be a hard worker who takes only as much as he needs from the society, and who produces some surplus to give back to the community.


I've got a better idea. What until you become inquisitor for a day, then execute your enemies and steal as much gold as you can carry. Pick up a new ID, move to a new location without extradition, and party on.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby Quinny » Wed 18 Mar 2009, 01:50:05

I think you might be overselling the 'no dig' method here Ludi. IMO permaculture is still bloody hard work!![

quote="Ludi"]$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')The successful person in such a society who avoids being targeted by the Inquisition would be a hard worker



Oh well, I guess I'm in for the chop.[/quote]
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby ReverseEngineer » Wed 18 Mar 2009, 02:22:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'T')he successful person in such a society who avoids being targeted by the Inquisition would be a hard worker who takes only as much as he needs from the society, and who produces some surplus to give back to the community.


I've got a better idea. What until you become inquisitor for a day, then execute your enemies and steal as much gold as you can carry. Pick up a new ID, move to a new location without extradition, and party on.


You would be immediately targeted by the inquisiton wherever you went simply because of the gold you carry. You would be signing your own death warrant.

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby EndOfGrowth » Wed 18 Mar 2009, 05:19:53

Those people who thought they could get rich simply by owning a house?

Estate agents?

Buy to let landlords?
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby davep » Wed 18 Mar 2009, 05:42:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndOfGrowth', 'T')hose people who thought they could get rich simply by owning a house?

Estate agents?

Buy to let landlords?


I'm not sure that becoming responsible for your own retirement fund (which is essentially what the buy to let crowd were doing) instead of hoping the Government will provide for you is a parasitic trait. They were more a symptom of the real-estate boom than a cause.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Postby EndOfGrowth » Wed 18 Mar 2009, 06:23:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndOfGrowth', 'T')hose people who thought they could get rich simply by owning a house?

Estate agents?

Buy to let landlords?


I'm not sure that becoming responsible for your own retirement fund (which is essentially what the buy to let crowd were doing) instead of hoping the Government will provide for you is a parasitic trait. They were more a symptom of the real-estate boom than a cause.



They also fall into the same category as 'Those people who thought they could get rich simply by owning a house'
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