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Who is a "parasite"?

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby davep » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 14:24:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')ime for my periodic posting here.

We humans are all parasites on Mother Earth. We have our shiny metal teeth locked onto her petroleum teat and are sucking out the last life juices from her saggy graying anticlines. 8O

I'll bet none are in primary industries. Anyone in manufacturing or agriculture? Do you actually build or grow anything? Any miners, steelworkers, ship's captains? Everyone here who believes they are capitalist, progressive, humanist, cynic, wise man, realist, conservative, or democrats blah blah blah is actually, in real life, just a telephone-talker or at best, a paper (or retail/financial stock) pusher.

Any Mexican farm workers in the audience? Thought not :twisted:


Fair point. There are those of us who are farming though, albeit with a steep learning curve. I've also bought a lathe and lots of relevant books, but need to actually cross the threshold to producing my revolutionary expedient stirling engines.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 14:43:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')ime for my periodic posting here.

We humans are all parasites on Mother Earth. We have our shiny metal teeth locked onto her petroleum teat and are sucking out the last life juices from her saggy graying anticlines. 8O

I'll bet none are in primary industries. Anyone in manufacturing or agriculture? Do you actually build or grow anything? Any miners, steelworkers, ship's captains? Everyone here who believes they are capitalist, progressive, humanist, cynic, wise man, realist, conservative, or democrats blah blah blah is actually, in real life, just a telephone-talker or at best, a paper (or retail/financial stock) pusher.

Any Mexican farm workers in the audience? Thought not :twisted:


Where do teachers fit in this equation?

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 14:58:11

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If they teach conformity to the industrial paradigm, specialization and segmentation, value commitification, and suburban ghetto-ization they are parasites. If they teach dependence and belonging, rote memorization, and encourage competitiveness at the expense of creativity, sharing, loving, earth-centered spirituality, they are parasites. If they are not me they are parasites. Yikes. There. Got that off my chest. Can I leave now?


What if they teach independence, self-reliance, courage and commitment to excellence?

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 15:18:02

What is "excellence"? How do you teach it?
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Bas » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 15:31:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')hat is "excellence"? How do you teach it?


excellence is being very good at one particular thing which usually came through intense and long training which in turn makes you 'specialized' and being specialized means you're part of the big human machine in which everybody functions as a specialized too all too often without seeing the big picture of what this machine does to nature and our planet.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 15:38:03

What if they teach somekinda useless discipline, which won't be used by 95-99% of their pupils ever in their lifetime? Like Math.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 15:42:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'W')hat if they teach somekinda useless discipline, which won't be used by 95-99% of their pupils ever in their lifetime? Like Math.
If you knew more math than you could count the number of people that believe you are a complete idiot?


And what good would that bring me? See, you just proving my point, silly little man.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 16:16:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', ' ') "Master" is just a standard rank for ppl who have more than 5K posts. It's just that most of them have "Expert" ranks, or some staff rank, or whatever. I'm an outlier, as usual.

At my current pace, I should be a Master in about 4 more months :-)
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 16:28:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')hat is "excellence"? How do you teach it?
excellence is being very good at one particular thing which usually came through intense and long training which in turn makes you 'specialized' and being specialized means you're part of the big human machine in which everybody functions as a specialized too all too often without seeing the big picture of what this machine does to nature and our planet.

The key is to be able to take the lessons learned in striving for excellence in one endeavor and being able to universally apply them to any other endeavor you might try.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby davep » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 16:44:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'e')xcellence is being very good at one particular thing which usually came through intense and long training which in turn makes you 'specialized' and being specialized means you're part of the big human machine in which everybody functions as a specialized too all too often without seeing the big picture of what this machine does to nature and our planet.
The key is to be able to take the lessons learned in striving for excellence in one endeavor and being able to universally apply them to any other endeavor you might try.

I'm not so sure about that. I see the key as being interested in many things and never assuming you know everything, i.e being humble (a bugbear of míne with the absolutists on here). The problem with specialising first is that you tend to see things in terms of your domain. Being a jack of all trades with a tendency to dig deep when required seems a better approach to me.
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 16:55:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('davep', '
')I'm not so sure about that. I see the key as being interested in many things and never assuming you know everything, i.e being humble (a bugbear of míne with the absolutists on here). The problem with specialising first is that you tend to see things in terms of your domain. Being a jack of all trades with a tendency to dig deep when required seems a better approach to me.


I'd agree with that definition also, its not all that different, just a different spin.

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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 19:11:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'I')'d agree with that definition also, its not all that different, just a different spin.

How do you teach your kids humility, RE? By example?
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Re: Who is a "parasite"?

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Thu 19 Mar 2009, 19:25:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'H')ow do you teach your kids humility, RE? By example?

Absolutely. I am a first class example of how NOT be humble :-)

In any event, my lack of humility here is mainly a case of fighting fire with fire. I'm sorry, in a verbal firefight with Pretorian or Jack, its not gonna do me any good at all to play humble and turn the other cheek. You pull a Knife, I will pull a Gun. You send one of my ideas tot he Hospital, I will send one of yours to the MORGUE. That's the Chicago Way. ;-)
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