[pedalling_faster]

how did the US survive for 220+ years without HR875 ?

take a look at it. this has nothing to do with making food safe. it creates a pre-condition for selective persecution - large sectors of society will not be in compliance. they can be selectively shut down - at the whim of the federal government.

HR875 is all about control. it's like Monsanto is writing legislation for the US government.

[Pops]

You're right!

I'm not going to have a garden!

[vtsnowedin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'T')o hell with them!

[Jotapay]

The bill authorizes fines of up to $1,000,000 dollars for "each act" and for "each day" of a violation.

Is it time yet?

[Pops]

Wasn't it T. Pickens who wrote:

The First Billion is the Hardest ?

Quit looking for excuses to do nothing.

If you are thinking .gov is gonna confiscate your string beans you are looking for an an excuse to not grow any beans.



Am I right?

[Jotapay]

From the sponsor's wiki page (Rosa DeLauro):

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;On February 4th, 2009 Ms. DeLauro introduced H.R. 875 entitled "Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009." This bill is allegedly to protect the US' food supply, however, it leaves small farmers, especially organic, at a great disadvantage to the corporate ones. Congresswoman DeLauro has several ties to corporate agriculture. For instance, her husband Stanley Greenberg has Monsanto as a client. Ms. DeLauro also receives massive donations from agribusiness political action committees. [2] [3] This bill could potentially threaten to regulate home gardens as well."

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'I')f you are thinking .gov is gonna confiscate your string beans you are looking for an an excuse to not grow any beans. Am I right?

[alokin]

I didn't read the text, it does not apply to us. But what I can imagine is, that, if it comes to food shortages and to rationing, they want to have a complete register of who grows what amount. Then you will be forced to sell them for a very cheap price, all what is more than your families needs. So if it applies, then you know what to write into your records,

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I') don't have any string beans or other vegetables.

[patience]

I'm starting a big batch of plants today.

[Ferretlover]

Talk about a conflict of interest! Have they told the Amish, etc., yet? Better yet, are TPTB going to pay us for NOT growing things, too?

I wonder how they think they can enforce this? There are farms, companies, etc., that have not been inspected for years (according to various news reports). I realize this would put Monsanto one step closer to controlling the food supplies; however, at this time, I suspect this is more putting something in place that can be used to pick and choose what farms, companies, etc., can be destroyed when their production threatens Monsanto or the government.

[Ludi]

How will they obtain warrants to inspect private property?

Git offn my land!

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'T')o hell with them!

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'H')ow will they obtain warrants to inspect private property?

[eastbay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'H')ow will they obtain warrants to inspect private property?

[Sixstrings]

Wow, this is weird.

All the food contamination issues over the past few years have been from Big Agribusiness and China. But oh no, they won't touch those.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'H')ow will they obtain warrants to inspect private property?

[outcast]

1.) I really don't see this getting anywhere at the moment.

2.) Even if it did it would be impossible to enforce.



A lot of this looks like more tin-foilage.....

[Jotapay]

I draw my line in the sand with this bill. This will not stand. If this passes and is enforced as it appears it will be, it is the end of freedom. Not being able to grow ones own vegetables, as has been done for thousands of years by humans, is intolerable. It is an attempt to make us complete wards of this corrupt and power-mad state.

[Nefarious]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'H')ow will they obtain warrants to inspect private property?