[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UncoveringTruths', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')"I am not budging until I get to the pump. I don't care what anyone says, I've been waiting for two hours,"
...

Even hours of waiting to cross back into the United States at the busy border crossings are not putting Americans off despite misgivings about having to produce proof of U.S. citizenship to return home under new travel rules.

[Forney2008]

So true. Whats the saying--"penny wise and pound foolish", seems to accurately describe this American bargain hunters. Plus the risk of getting the shit kicked out of you or worse kidnapped makes this cheap gas seem much pricier compared to back in the states. I'm sorry, I will pay $5 diesel any day over waiting hours to save a buck!

[UncoveringTruths]

Yep but the mindset of risking life and limb to get some cheaper gas that is scary. Desperation! When the folks from the US get their gas they are probably kinda smug about the whole process. They probably go home and tell their neighbors while knocking back some suds. Thats how I found out about it.

I live near a relatively peaceful Ciudad. Might be worth it to get a 100 gallon tank of diesel for the tractor. Heck I know a guy that is going over there regularly. Maybe I could pay him a few extra bucks to get it for me.

Got a do my part for Peak Oil.

[AQIUS]

well, let's see now . . . ILLEGAL mexicans have been coming into the US for decades, flooding the ER's with uninsured people to treat, often causing hospitals to go bankrupt. not to mention all the many other social benefits of living in the US that they receive.

and yet the mexicans at the gas pumps piss n moan about the damn gringos buying gas !??!\

CRY ME A RIVER, YOU CRYBABY AZZHOLES!! at least the US customers are buying the gas LEGALLY , didnt sneak down at midnight to do it, wont suck up any other resources, and leave right away.

so it's always ok for the much-suffering poor, poor mexican to get every break known to mankind but anyone else that wants to benefit economically is some unwelcome invader? typical.

tell ya what; keep yer cheap gas - but in return take back yer cheap workers. ohh, no deal eh?

(I know, I know, "you got noothin in thees world", yer "just tryin to support yer 9 keeds" .. yadda yadda .. always the sympathy angle .. until paycheck time when you run out & buy 12pack cases of cerveza, and the huge Chevy Truck WITH huge shiny rims WITH blasting stereo, but still whine about money. shuuuuuuut up already. hypocrites )

wait a minute, one more thing; as long as we are on this mexican story, where the HELL do all these poor people get the thousands of dollars to pay the coyotes to smuggle em in? I know they promise a future pay for some services but the smugglers want cash upfront. where does it come from? and why dont the immigrants just take all this cash and .... oh I dunno ....START A DAMN BUSINESS IN MEXICO!?

yes the country is corrupt but other nationalities seem able to start a business there. sorry but something just doesnt add up in all these immigrants alleged horror stories. I call Bullshit !!

[Jupidu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UncoveringTruths', 'I') live near a relatively peaceful Ciudad. Might be worth it to get a 100 gallon tank of diesel for the tractor. Heck I know a guy that is going over there regularly. Maybe I could pay him a few extra bucks to get it for me.

Got a do my part for Peak Oil.

[UncoveringTruths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hough relieved the diesel crisis was over, gas station owners worried about what steps national oil company Pemex might take to try to avert a future shortage.

Over the weekend in Mexico City, the director of Pemex suggested that station owners in the border region limit sales to drivers from the United States.

[emersonbiggins]

I guess these disparities will vanish when the NAU makes its formal debut, no?

[UncoveringTruths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his situation arouse this week on the California-Baja California border. In Tijuana demand shot up almost 40% overnight as U.S. tourists and truckers crossed the border to purchase diesel fuel. The same was true for Ensenada, where truckers, tourists and boaters took advantage of the reduced price and filled their tanks and spare containers. Compounding the problem was the alleged bulk buying of diesel fuel by bargain hunters whose intentions were to resell on the U.S. side of the border. In a very short time diesel fuel disappeared from Mexican gas pumps.

Suddenly a crisis erupted, as Baja California’s commercial transportation industry was brought to a standstill. Municipal buses, fire engines and ambulances stopped running. Long lines where visible everywhere, while gas stations became huge parking lots for trailer trucks waiting for fuel to arrive. What little reserves could be found by resourceful station managers was rationed in small allotments. Tourists driving diesel powered trucks were denied service.

The crisis expanded to the U.S. side of the border, where demand spiraled and truckers had no choice but to pay US prices in order to meet clients’ immediate industrial and agricultural market needs. Demand was also increased due to speculative hoarding.

In time, as anxious consumers on both sides of the border began to feel the pinch thieves began siphoning gas from trucks. As well, complete truck gas tanks were dislodged and stolen from their chassis.

[UncoveringTruths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')EXICALI – The diesel crisis in Mexicali, the capital of Baja California, has yet to end.

Although a tanker ship carrying fuel docked Saturday at the Pemex plant in Rosarito Beach, which stocks the entire state, diesel has yet to make it to Mexicali via a dedicated pipeline.
Mexican sources said it takes about two days to carry the 150,000 barrels of diesel Mexicali consumes every week through the 93-mile pipeline over the La Rumorosa pass to Mexicali.

The fuel is in the pipeline, but Mexicali marked the 10th day of its fuel crisis yesterday. Gas station owners estimate the problems should be resolved by Friday at the latest.

[Dan1195]

Just looking at the numbers. According to the EIA Mexican Petroleum consumption has been essentially flat for the past few years, so I believe there is a strong likelyhood a high percentage of those increases are from the combination of drivers chosing to fill up on the other side of the border and well as people shipping it across the border for resale. 70,000 bpd amounts to 0.35% of U.S. demand. There is a possibly that these numbers have increased more within the past couple of months, as the 0.35% is only an average from Jan-May, and there is ample evidence of strong increases of Gasoline demand along the MX border area of late as the gap between U.S and Mexican prices have widened.

This may mean that up to 25% of the supposed demand destruction in the U.S. is not even real.

[UncoveringTruths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')IDALGO -- In a sign of the times for a federal agency that routinely announces million-dollar cocaine and marijuana busts: Customs and Border Protection has issued a news release about a $400 fine because of an extra tank of fuel.

The fine was levied Sunday against a 22-year-old Edinburg man who crossed the border with an extra tank of diesel in the bed of his pickup.

[TheDude]

If you download the .xls for Mexico you see that their consumption has been essentially flat even longer - got up to 17mbpd in '89 and hasn't really gone anywhere.

Most of their windfall profits are being plowed into the subsidy: Mexico Takes Economic Gamble to Keep Fuel Cheap

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')exico, which imports 40 percent of its gasoline, has for years subsidized prices at the pump by paying Pemex the difference between pump prices and what it pays for imports.

At the same time, the government typically fixes an unrealistically low oil export price in its budget, then sinks most above-forecast revenues into infrastructure. It set an oil price of $49 per barrel for 2008, but Mexican oil is now selling at a heady $110, implying a fat windfall.

Yet much of that windfall is being gobbled up by the fuel subsidy. State income from Pemex fell some $800 million short of budget forecasts in the first quarter due to lower oil export volumes, a strong peso, and higher subsidy costs, Deputy Finance Minister Alejandro Werner said this week.

"Sooner or later this subsidy will become unsustainable," veteran columnist Sergio Sarmiento wrote in the daily Reforma.

[UncoveringTruths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')uel prices have more than doubled since 2001, when Pedro Purata bought a 16,000-gallon shrimp boat he dubbed the "Alma Marie."

The wooden boat, coated in layers of peeling black and white paint, now rocks gently on the bayou waters - moored to the dock along with more than half of the Port of Brownsville's shrimp boats. Although some need repairs, most simply lack the fuel to head to Louisiana, where shrimping season has begun.

"There has never been this many boats tied to the dock during this season," Purata said in Spanish, pointing to boats along the Port of Brownsville Shrimp Basin. "We just can't afford the fuel."

But before the Texas coast kicks off its shrimp season July 15, Purata and many other shrimpers along the Gulf of Mexico's coastline are sailing south.

Like other industries in the United States, shrimping businesses have been hit hard by soaring fuel costs and some are finding relief, if only temporary, by filling up their tanks on Mexican shores. And it's legal.

"The bottom line is that if we weren't going to Mexico for fuel we would be out of business," said Carlton Reyes, president of the Brownsville-Port Isabel Shrimp Producers Association.

[SILENTTODD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'W')ho needs troops when they are already colonizing the US with their anchor babies?

[socrates1fan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rafa', 'Y')ou seem to think that the immigration is something not wanted by the people at the White House... you are VERY ingeneous if you think that.

Actually, the immigration is not only tolerated, but also wanted and encouraged by the US administration; of course, that isn't publicly admitted.

But the fact is that the US administration wants low cost working force, that can be easily exploited, and deported if they start to claim for their rights; it is also a large pool of potential mercenaries and soldiers in times where the US armies have very hard to recruit.
Study a little history, and see how empires always do it when they have hard time to recruit troops, they recruit more and more among foreigners.

Oh, maybe the US administration will send troops to te frontier, but it would only be a show; troops will be largely corrupt, and made up in great proportion of people that not so longer ago crossed illegally that same frontier. It won't stop the flow.


The only effective action to stop the flow is not closing the border, but to be radical, that is go to the roots of the problem: the immigration will stop when the emigration will stop; that is, ensure that the mexican and others just enjoy a good live in their countries and don't want to go out.

Look at the migration statistics for countries like Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador; you can see that the flow of migration to the United States has decreased greatly, and there are even people going back home, since the arrival of the new nationalist governments there.
So, the most efficient way to ensure a decrease in the flow of illegal immigration into the United States would be to encourage those governments, instead of trying to overthrow them.

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ow long before U.S. Troops on Mexican Boarder?

[Vogelzang]

When the hispanics are the dominant ethnic group in the US of A.

[Nickel]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'W')ho needs troops when they are already colonizing the US with their anchor babies?

[Nickel]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SILENTTODD', 'I') know your in So Cal also mos6507. I see this everyday too! I think Kunstler in right, which is why I am also planning my escape.

[UncoveringTruths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')People going across the border to save some bucks on gas may find out the hard way about a new Mexican law.

The new law restricts the amount of gas Americans can buy across the border, and one couple said Mexican authorities seized their vehicle and won't return it for at least four days.

"If it's a law, why isn't there a sign for American people to say, 'We're limited on diesel'?" said Andy McCulley in a telephone interview from Mexico. "Had we known that, we would have never, never done this."

McCulley said she and her husband have been going across the border into Ciudad Acuna to purchase cheap gas for decades and never had a problem until Thursday afternoon. As they entered the customs area, McCulley said, Mexican authorities asked if they'd purchased any diesel. After responding yes, McCulley said their 2006 GMC pickup was impounded.