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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby frankthetank » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 09:20:26

gunny-

Maybe you and your buddies can push them over the border into Illinois, build a large wall and let Obama deal with them?

What sucks is that a lot of the "trash" from that area is making its way into the smaller towns like mine and causing a lot of trouble (mostly armed robbery, minor theft, drug dealing).

"Ghetto thugs, coming to a small town near you"...
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby gunny7258 » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 10:10:24

I actually live in Wauwatosa, which is a nice suburb of MKE. Its flowing into their as well. Especially with the mall and the recent robberies in the village. But the Tosa cops are freakin awesome in cracking down on it.

I grew up in Waukesha and my parents still live there so i see first hand whats going on out there. The obamanation will just make this whole mess alot worse because god forbid someone actually has to go out and provide for themselves.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 11:48:37

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Wouldn't that be considered a "personal attack?"

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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby Specop_007 » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 12:01:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', 'I') live in Milwaukee and they opened this office right in the heart of the ghetto. There was a false rumor that FREE food stamps were being given out right on the spot. Lazy people who refuse to work like FREE stuff so a ton of them came and of course cannot behave to save their lives.

All the people had to prove was that they lived in milwaukee and nothing else. It was basically your typical lazy inner city trash trying to get more free handouts from people who actually work.

The comments from these people on the news were pathetic! They actually were complaining how hard it was to get FREE food.

There is no food shortage in the Midwest just a bunch of low life lazy people who have nothing better to do then to cause trouble while waiting for their government handout!

If you go to the FEMA offices in the better parts of the state this does not go on and everything runs very smooth.


Huh, imagine that. Who would have figured the .gov is giving away free stuff in the inner city.

Lemme see.....Wait....

*tap tap tap*.....

Nope, my Give-A-Damn meter seems to be broke. The sooner those welfare queens STARVE the happier I'll be. I for one and DAMNED tired of working my arse off and paying taxes so they can lounge around all day.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby IgnoranceIsBliss » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 12:31:31

The part about the 50 year old woman falling down and having people walk on her back to get ahead just about sums up my view on society. It's everyone for themselves in a lot of places here in the US. (Heck, we even fight other people in the stores to get those Christmas bargains) Remember the report of unrest in south Florida when they were giving away low income housing vouchers? Any kind of free give away is asking for trouble. Here in the Atlanta area, a local theme park had an event to give away free tickets and the same thing happened. They were swamped with people and "caught off guard."

In this country, we have a huge and growing underclass that is just one step away from total mayhem even in supposedly good economic times. Trust me, I know from living in the Orlando area. People will kill you for $5.00. What the heck is going to happen to these people as the vice tightens? This is one factor that was mentioned when light rail systems were first proposed in some areas in FL. People didn't want criminals riding into their neighborhoods on the train. (No trains have been built yet) As we saw with Katrina, lots of people just have no transportation options at all on their own. But I guess carjacking would work.

PS- That's hardcore about the murder of the Chik-fil-A owner who was just trying to help some people. What a shame.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby gunny7258 » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 12:35:29

Speaking of Katrina it funny how the people down there sat on there butts and waited for the Government to help them, and rioted and looted while they waited!!

Then you have the Midwesterners who actually went to work trying to save their properties. No crying for federal dollar handouts up here in the decent parts of WI. Everyone is just WORKING HARD to rebuild what they WORKED HARD to get.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 16:30:58

Oh, you're all just totally full of sh*t.

The states that get the largest amount of "free hand outs" from the federal government are the states that always show up "red" on the election charts. Why aren't you railing against those lazy people?

Oh, wait, I think I know...

Because those lazy people are all white and the folks in Milwaukee were black.

Unless you're an Amish farmer walking behind his team an average of 50,000 steps a day, you're all pretty damn lazy. Cheap oil has made us all that way.

Ok, folks, have at me.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby centralstump » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 18:20:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dohboi', 'O')h, you're all just totally full of sh*t. The states that get the largest amount of "free hand outs" from the federal government are the states that always show up "red" on the election charts. Why aren't you railing against those lazy people?
Oh, wait, I think I know. Because those lazy people are all white and the folks in Milwaukee were black. Unless you're an Amish farmer walking behind his team an average of 50,000 steps a day, you're all pretty damn lazy. Cheap oil has made us all that way. Ok, folks, have at me.

I would have at you, but you posted what I was thinking.There is alot of racism, be it against jews or blacks, on these boards lately. I'm just commenting because the hate order usually goes, blacks, jews and then catholics. Which means I'm next.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby Fredrik » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 18:32:43

Wouldn't it be great if social issues such as crime and welfare could be discussed without making it a racial thing - no matter which side you take?
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby azreal60 » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 18:59:23

Funny how I live 70 miles away and I didn't hear a thing about this. I think this is a little misleading in the title, this wasn't a food riot, this was a riot of people waiting for free stuff.

Also funny that people are talking about how there's no crying in the midwest about handouts. Umm, gunny, are you in the same Wisconsin I inhabit? There was plenty of crying..

Now, if my home got flooded away, I think I'd be crying a little bit for help too. I guess the point people are trying to make is people are people the world over. The difference is largely how much money they have, but even that goes the way of the dodo when all your money get's taken away by a flood.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby gunny7258 » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 19:11:07

it would but the racial card is so easy to pull. Look at obamas recent speechs. Already setting the tone to call McCains and any republican attacks racist. its just the easiest defense when you have no other.

The black community in milwaukee has serious problems that only they can fix but choose to ignore.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby gunny7258 » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 19:13:17

crying about a lost home is different then demanding and trying to get benefits that you should not be getting.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby kublikhan » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 19:15:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'g')unny-
Maybe you and your buddies can push them over the border into Illinois, build a large wall and let Obama deal with them?
What sucks is that a lot of the "trash" from that area is making its way into the smaller towns like mine and causing a lot of trouble (mostly armed robbery, minor theft, drug dealing).
"Ghetto thugs, coming to a small town near you"...
No thanks, we have enough thugs in Illinois.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby hope_full » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 19:26:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'u')nless you are critically ill from some other source, 7 days without food is going to do you no harm at all. If you go on a total fast, it takes an average of 60 days to starve.


I did a four-day water-only fast and it wasn't that big a deal. The big deal was when I started eating again and that wasn't pleasant. I was surprised that the hunger pangs weren't any worse than they were, but I also did some mental exercises to keep the hunger at bay.

I have also fasted and consumed only fruit juice for a couple days and that wasn't bad at all. My point is, we humans are designed to go long periods of time between eating. That's why we're all so darn chubby now.

As to the 2/2/2 rule, I don't buy that either (two minutes - air, two days - water and two weeks - food). My auntie died a fairly peaceful death after she lost the ability to eat or drink. Nine days after she lost all muscle control (and the ability to swallow), she passed on. The 87-year-old woman lasted for *nine days* without a drop of moisture passing her lips. Hospice workers told us that it was "on the longish side" but not that uncommon.

I think humans are a lot tougher than we may realize.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby Novus » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 19:45:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dohboi', '
')The states that get the largest amount of "free hand outs" from the federal government are the states that always show up "red" on the election charts. Why aren't you railing against those lazy people?


I think now is good time to point out how the entire ethanol boondoggle was a direct result of certain Mid-Westerners asking .gov for hand out mixed with corporate welfare. If we are going to blast welfare lets follow the money trail and blame who is really to blame.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby gunny7258 » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 20:01:26

yes ethanol is a scam and a perfect example of government waste and i am totally against it. Out own governor is a HUGE scam artist and is heavily involved in ethanol in this state. But in ethanols defense whole generations are not being raised on it. Plus it is not a direct transfer of wealth like social entitlement programs are. Although with the recent farm bill its kind of a grey area.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby kublikhan » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 20:05:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'I') think now is good time to point out how the entire ethanol boondoggle was a direct result of certain Mid-Westerners asking .gov for hand out mixed with corporate welfare. If we are going to blast welfare lets follow the money trail and blame who is really to blame.
Are you comparing ethanol subsides to the cost of entitlement programs? I hate corn ethanol and would like to see those subsidies removed, but lets be realistic here.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')orn ethanol subsidies totaled $7.0 billion in 2006
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hree growing entitlement programs consumed nearly half of all federal spending in 2004, and budget analysts expect them to make up an even bigger share in the future. Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid accounted for more than $1 trillion in the 2004 budget year, according to the Consolidated Federal Funds Report released Tuesday by the Census Bureau.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby seldom_seen » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 20:35:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('hope_full', 'M')y point is, we humans are designed to go long periods of time between eating. That's why we're all so darn chubby now.

Yep, when you ram your body full of sugar and carbohydrates (also a sugar). You're telling your body to store up for lean times. So when you see a massive behemoth, they have prepped up for like the next 50 winters :)

Much of the american population could probably go 30 days or more without food and be just fine. Psychologically though. People will freak.

Many grains and dairy products have an opiate effect on the brain. Which is why someone who is stressed out might eat a quart of ice cream or mow down a bag of corn chips.

This means the behavior of people who can't get their junk food may resemble that of a drug addict.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby Pretorian » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 22:33:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', 'I') live in Milwaukee and they opened this office right in the heart of the ghetto. There was a false rumor that FREE food stamps were being given out right on the spot. Lazy people who refuse to work like FREE stuff so a ton of them came and of course cannot behave to save their lives.

All the people had to prove was that they lived in milwaukee and nothing else. It was basically your typical lazy inner city trash trying to get more free handouts from people who actually work.

The comments from these people on the news were pathetic! They actually were complaining how hard it was to get FREE food.

There is no food shortage in the Midwest just a bunch of low life lazy people who have nothing better to do then to cause trouble while waiting for their government handout!

If you go to the FEMA offices in the better parts of the state this does not go on and everything runs very smooth.


they will eat you if you don't feed them, do you realize that? IQ of 70, excessive hormone levels and historical traditions of cannibalism do not go well with absence of FREE food.
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Re: Milwaukee food riot

Unread postby dohboi » Tue 24 Jun 2008, 23:51:45

Thank you, pret, for proving beyond a whisper of a doubt that there is absolutely not one smidgin of racism on this forum......

Now that that is taken care of, centralstump, don't get too comfortable--I usually start with the Catholics, and get to Jews and Blacks later ;-)

On the one hand this clearly had an element of the frenzy for anything free that permeates our culture. On the other hand I don't think it was entirely coincidental that this was about food--not getting food you expected to be able to get when your kids are hungry can put anyone into a foul mood.

Do people have stories about other disturbances around food in their localities?
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