[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dohboi', 'T')hank you, pret, for proving beyond a whisper of a doubt that there is absolutely not one smidgin of racism on this forum......

[big_rc]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', 'y')es ethanol is a scam and a perfect example of government waste and i am totally against it. Out own governor is a HUGE scam artist and is heavily involved in ethanol in this state. But in ethanols defense whole generations are not being raised on it. Plus it is not a direct transfer of wealth like social entitlement programs are. Although with the recent farm bill its kind of a grey area.

[gunny7258]

disadvantaged people are only that way because of the poor life choices they made. My tax money should not be used to help them out when they are perfectly able to function and work but choose not to.

I also feel that the current mortgage bailout, stimulus checks were also a scam and while there is a serious issue with government spending the rhetoric coming out of the lefts mouth is all about tax increases on the wealthy (those who work hard and made good choices) and more social programs to help the less fortunate.

Funny thing is that the definition of the word fortunate is luck??? I am not lucky i worked hard and have a great career and make great money. I choose to take this path. Just like someone poor lazy SOB is i not unlucky because they choose to sit on their butt all day and suck the government tit, its what they choose to do.

When personal responsibility starts to make its way back into this society the maybe we will have a chance. But with the current outlook and attitudes were in for some major trouble.

But on the bright side i can go get some free green beans!

[jdmartin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', 'd')isadvantaged people are only that way because of the poor life choices they made. My tax money should not be used to help them out when they are perfectly able to function and work but choose not to.

[Werdna]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '
')
It has been said no society is more than 5 meals away from revolution. The woods near me are filling up with homeless. The owner of a local Chick'a'Flit used to feed them with his leftovers until they murdered him. You have no idea how bad some places have gotten already. For the first time in my life I actually hope FEMA comes and takes them away to concentration camp.

[big_rc]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', 'd')isadvantaged people are only that way because of the poor life choices they made. My tax money should not be used to help them out when they are perfectly able to function and work but choose not to.

I also feel that the current mortgage bailout, stimulus checks were also a scam and while there is a serious issue with government spending the rhetoric coming out of the lefts mouth is all about tax increases on the wealthy (those who work hard and made good choices) and more social programs to help the less fortunate.

[gunny7258]

We are not talking about poor people in Rwanda or another country, we are talking about the people who choose to be poor and lazy in todays AMERICAN society. A vast majority of them just happen to be located in Americas inner cities.

With that said most African immigrants do very very well when they get here because they realize the potential that hard work actually has for them in this country. The large African immigrant population in New York is doing very well as a matter of fact.

In fact if you want to be successful here are a few things you can do to start if you are young and poor.

1. do not get pregnant by 3 different men by the time you are 19

2. Stay in school and get a diploma

3. Save your money to reinvest in yourself instead of buying the latest cell phone or cool shoes

4. Talk in a normal form of the English language

5. Do not wear pants you have to hold up or huge oversize shirts to a job interview

6. Do not do or sell illegal drugs

7. Do not join a gang

8. Do not idolize the Hip Hop lifestyle and try to emulate it

9. Do not chastise those who have succeeded

10. Stop viewing yourself as a victim

But because these are all personal choices that require action on the part of an individual I am sure that you will have an argument against all of them

And yes the current tax system does open the door for some problems, which is why i support the fair tax. But it still does not make some slob sitting on his front porch collecting a check for nothing OK or right in anyway.

[gunny7258]

And yes i am against social security and Medicare. If money taken out of peoples pay checks were allowed to be privately invested they would be much better off.

[sittinguy]

I can see it now,, The next time this happens a bunch of rednecks showing up with lawn chairs, coolers and popcorn.

They say,, were not here for the food,,, were here for the show

[frankthetank]

Gunny-

Living so close to ghetto must really be getting to you. I would move ASAP before it gets much worse. Once the grocery stores start emptying in the Milwaukee/Chicago area, all hell is going to break loose. That city is a basket case the way it is and it can only get worse. I still remember reading about all those shootings this past spring. Good luck down there. Keep flaunting your wealth.

[big_rc]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', 'W')e are not talking about poor people in Rwanda or another country, we are talking about the people who choose to be poor and lazy in todays AMERICAN society. A vast majority of them just happen to be located in Americas inner cities.

[RonMN]

Racial hangups?

What I saw gunny write was...

Quote:
most African immigrants do very very well when they get here because they realize the potential that hard work actually has for them in this country. The large African immigrant population in New York is doing very well as a matter of fact.

The rest of his post didn't mention race at all.

[frankthetank]

Since i never watched the food riot video, what was the racial makeup of the participants?

Obviously Gunny is well off and doesn't want his style of life to change. Change is hard for anyone. Gunny needs to reduce his stress. Maybe take the jet to the Bahamas for a few days? Take the yacht out on Lake Geneva? Help "Habitat for Humanity" build houses in inner city Chicago?

[RonMN]

perhaps I've missed a thingy or two...this last post I quoted was the 1st of gunnys posts that I have read.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', 'A')nd yes i am against social security and Medicare. If money taken out of peoples pay checks were allowed to be privately invested they would be much better off.

[gunny7258]

Ok so now that we have moved to name calling let me clarify that the return on social security is about 1-2% Give me the money they take out of my check every week and let me put it in a modest IRA or even a high yield savings account and i will be much farther ahead of the game. In fact by the time i reach 65 (i am 35 now) i will have enough to not need social security. But at this point i was smart enough to stat saving for retirement at 18 so i will not need it anyway.

Yes there are poor white people but the actual percentage of the white population that is poor is much lower then blacks. Weird thing is that if you drive through poor hispanic neighborhoods or poor white neighborhoods at 11 am in the morning on Tuesday there are not to many grown men around, most work. Do the same thing in a black neighborhood and there are grown men all over??? Must be a coincidence or conspiracy or something. Oh wait theres not any good paying jobs, even though the Burger kings up here pay over $10 to start!!!

Plus have you ever driven through the crappy parts of town. Here in Milwaukee there is so much garbage in the streets its sick, even dirty diapers!!! Thats just an utter lack of pride and a sign of the victim mentality.

The weird thing is that you would think that most black people would hate welfare and SSI. Its a fact the blacks performed educationally as well as whites and black families were actually stronger with a lower divorce rate then whites before the government introduced all the social programs so many depend on now. In short welfare destroyed the black community but yet they still defend it.

Even with all the new affirmative action, quotas, free tuition there is still a huge gap. Why because the initiative to actually take advantage of it does not exist.

I guess you could say i am well off, i work in a skilled trade that i am always learning the newest technologies in and do a ton of entrepanurial stuff on the side. I do it all myself and have no employees. I make just under six figures a year not counting my wifes part time income.

She only works part time so she can raise our children. You know the ones i prepared for financially before i had. The ones i do not expect anyone but me to pay for. I know its an unheard of idea but it works for me.

I grew up in a modest middle class family and watched my dad struggle in the 80's when he got laid off. Did he give up no, he did odd jobs to keep things going until he bounced back. Today he is worth a lot of money. He was a blue collar guy his whole life as well. So i have witnessed struggle and also how to get past it.

Anyone who bitchs they are poor i could show how to make money by the end of the day, and most would not do the work required to do it. I sacrifice and work on side projects on my lunch hour when mos people are smoking or bitching about work. When you are laying on your fat ass watching American Idol I am building more websites to promote my business!

Its simple decide you will succeed make the sacrifices to do so and work hard. The rest will come.

Or you can sit on your ass and drink grape soda, eat cheetos and complain bout the man and stay poor.

Fire away and call me racist, stupid and insensitive i can take it!

[gunny7258]

I also forgot to mention i have bi racial children and an interracial marriage so i must be a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE bigot!

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', 'O')k so now that we have moved to name calling let me clarify that the return on social security is about 1-2% Give me the money they take out of my check every week and let me put it in a modest IRA or even a high yield savings account and i will be much farther ahead of the game. In fact by the time i reach 65 (i am 35 now) i will have enough to not need social security. But at this point i was smart enough to stat saving for retirement at 18 so i will not need it anyway.

Yes there are poor white people but the actual percentage of the white population that is poor is much lower then blacks. Weird thing is that if you drive through poor hispanic neighborhoods or poor white neighborhoods at 11 am in the morning on Tuesday there are not to many grown men around, most work. Do the same thing in a black neighborhood and there are grown men all over??? Must be a coincidence or conspiracy or something. Oh wait theres not any good paying jobs, even though the Burger kings up here pay over $10 to start!!!

Plus have you ever driven through the crappy parts of town. Here in Milwaukee there is so much garbage in the streets its sick, even dirty diapers!!! Thats just an utter lack of pride and a sign of the victim mentality.

The weird thing is that you would think that most black people would hate welfare and SSI. Its a fact the blacks performed educationally as well as whites and black families were actually stronger with a lower divorce rate then whites before the government introduced all the social programs so many depend on now. In short welfare destroyed the black community but yet they still defend it.

Even with all the new affirmative action, quotas, free tuition there is still a huge gap. Why because the initiative to actually take advantage of it does not exist.

I guess you could say i am well off, i work in a skilled trade that i am always learning the newest technologies in and do a ton of entrepanurial stuff on the side. I do it all myself and have no employees. I make just under six figures a year not counting my wifes part time income.

She only works part time so she can raise our children. You know the ones i prepared for financially before i had. The ones i do not expect anyone but me to pay for. I know its an unheard of idea but it works for me.

I grew up in a modest middle class family and watched my dad struggle in the 80's when he got laid off. Did he give up no, he did odd jobs to keep things going until he bounced back. Today he is worth a lot of money. He was a blue collar guy his whole life as well. So i have witnessed struggle and also how to get past it.

Anyone who bitchs they are poor i could show how to make money by the end of the day, and most would not do the work required to do it. I sacrifice and work on side projects on my lunch hour when mos people are smoking or bitching about work. When you are laying on your fat ass watching American Idol I am building more websites to promote my business!

Its simple decide you will succeed make the sacrifices to do so and work hard. The rest will come.

Or you can sit on your ass and drink grape soda, eat cheetos and complain bout the man and stay poor.

Fire away and call me racist, stupid and insensitive i can take it!

[gunny7258]

Or forgo the big screen plasma TV and buy some major medical health insurance ON YOUR OWN that has adequate coverage for this. Probably an unheard of action to many but it can be done.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gunny7258', 'O')r forgo the big screen plasma TV and but some major medical health insurance ON YOUR OWN that has adequate coverage for this. Probably an unheard of action to many but it can be done.