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Re: Lets Wiki!

Postby kpeavey » Wed 12 Mar 2008, 10:33:54

so add it in.

you don't need permission
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Re: Lets Wiki!

Postby MrBean » Wed 12 Mar 2008, 11:03:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kpeavey', 's')o add it in.

you don't need permission


I'm not wiki-savvy and don't plan to become one - acquiring that skill would only worsen my allready very bad Internet-addiction... :oops:

So if anyone else could and would, that would be swell. Or just check out the damn link! :)
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New Wiki in Public Beta

Postby Devil » Mon 02 Jun 2008, 09:00:07

Please become a public beta tester for our new Environment and Energy Wiki, EEWiki. Anyone can join and edit or add articles!

The aim is to complement Wikipedia with impartial and factual, easy-to-understand, articles explaining anything to do with the environment or energy. The target audience is not the advanced scientist, rather the informed members of the public with at least a high school education. So far, we have over 200 article titles and increasing rapidly. We shall go fully public when we touch on about 1,000 articles.

I emphasise that registered members can preserve perfect anonymity: we ask for neither their real names nor e-mail addresses. Every effort has been made to keep the EEWiki spam and bug-free. There are few rules to follow, but anything or anyone who disrupts the intention of ease-of-use or factual editing or reasonable discussion will be e-killed off the wiki! The articles are not a forum for discussion, but the talk pages may be.
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Re: New Wiki in Public Beta

Postby vision-master » Mon 02 Jun 2008, 09:06:25

Why should I follow the 'Devil'?
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Re: New Wiki in Public Beta

Postby pup55 » Mon 02 Jun 2008, 10:10:55

Hello, Devil, long time no see.
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Re: New Wiki in Public Beta

Postby bodigami » Tue 03 Jun 2008, 01:34:37

I suggest you post a link to this wiki :razz:
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Re: New Wiki in Public Beta

Postby Devil » Tue 03 Jun 2008, 10:26:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'W')hy should I follow the 'Devil'?


To get to know him before you die! :lol:
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Re: New Wiki in Public Beta

Postby Devil » Tue 03 Jun 2008, 10:29:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', 'I') suggest you post a link to this wiki :razz:


Thanks for the idea, but there is too much spam/porn on PeakWiki and it would be unwise to associate myself with it! 8O
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Wikileaks: Official US Gov't Terrorism Manual

Postby mattduke » Thu 19 Jun 2008, 00:05:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ikileaks has released a sensitive 219 page US military counterinsurgency manual. The manual, Foreign Internal Defense Tactics Techniques and Procedures for Special Forces (1994, 2004), may be critically described as "what we learned about running death squads and propping up corrupt government in Latin America and how to apply it to other places". Its contents are both history defining for Latin America and, given the continued role of US Special Forces in the suppression of insurgencies, including in Iraq and Afghanistan, history making.

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Wikileaks.org still down. 2 months & counting...

Postby SeaGypsy » Thu 11 Feb 2010, 21:12:09

http://wikileaks.org/

Since before Christmas there has been zip at wikileaks, just some version of their funding drive page. I am partly saddened by their absence, partly a bit suspicious.
If you read through the current blurb they say they simply cannot take advertising revenues for editorial integrity reasons. While this is understandable, if it were me running the site I would prefer to take the $ with a disclaimer that if negative information comes through in relation to advertisers it will be published as if they never were; then stick to this policy. Surely there are some potential advertisers who's integrity is good enough this shouldn't be a problem?

IMO wikileaks is one of the most important sites on the net. It needs to be up and running.

“ Wikileaks has probably produced more scoops in its short life than the Washington Post has in the past 30 years ”
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Re: Wikileaks.org still down. 2 months & counting...

Postby shortonsense » Thu 11 Feb 2010, 21:30:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', '
')IMO wikileaks is one of the most important sites on the net. It needs to be up and running.

“ Wikileaks has probably produced more scoops in its short life than the Washington Post has in the past 30 years ”
— The National, November 19. 2009


Never heard of it.

What exactly have they "scooped"?
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Re: Wikileaks.org still down. 2 months & counting...

Postby SeaGypsy » Thu 11 Feb 2010, 21:46:01

They only take submissions from insiders. Government departments and corporations in the main. They check the bona-fide's of leakers, then publish articles without ever disclosing the exact source. It is a very serious site. I very strongly suggest anyone with an interest in what is going on behind the scenes in government and corporate worlds keep an eye on this site, when it gets back up.

Edited to add the wikipedia page on wikileaks.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikileaks
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Re: Wikileaks.org still down. 2 months & counting...

Postby pablonite » Fri 12 Feb 2010, 10:39:50

That is sad.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/n ... arget.html
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ll money raised goes primarily towards the infrastructure costs of running a large network of servers in several countries so that the service cannot be sabotaged.

Wikileaks launched in 2006, with the aim of releasing secret information about governments and companies. In the UK it gained notoriety for publishing the BNP membership list, 9/11 pager messages and the manual used by soldiers working with detainees at Gunanamo Bay.

It hasn't been that revealing yet but let's face it, when you start a full frontal assault on the Pentagon, secret societies, assorted cartels and governments with a whistle-blower database you better build in some redundancy. Server redundancy is expensive. They obviously need an editor and some other basic support, it looks like a slightly more expensive operation than your typical message board. A lawyer on retainer might be a good idea, maybe they can find someone to take some corporate pro bono work when the time comes. :lol:
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Re: Wikileaks.org still down. 2 months & counting...

Postby SeaGypsy » Fri 12 Feb 2010, 11:18:11

If you read the current page on wikileaks.org at wikipedia it says they have received a lot (hundereds of thousands of $ worth) of pro bono legal help in defeating over 100 attempts to shut it down. IMO these guys have a lot of testicular fortitude; there are very few if any examples in the world of such fearless publication. I hope they get back up and soon.
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Re: Wikileaks.org still down. 2 months & counting...

Postby Ferretlover » Fri 12 Feb 2010, 11:20:53

Bah! What is it about humans--they just can't stand to see anything succeed. They must destroy or main everything. I wish the die off would hurry up. I am so disgusted this morning! :cry:
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Re: Wikileaks.org still down. 2 months & counting...

Postby Bas » Fri 12 Feb 2010, 11:40:10

I've heard and read about it and I know the piratebay was asking it's users to support it a while ago, but otherwise I don't think I ever heard of a scoop that landed them in the MSM.

On the other hand, I think it's very important that there is an organisation for whistle blowers, because often, even in western democracies, whistle blowers are still very vulnerable and often lose their jobs, are sued and chased in other ways to make their lives miserable...
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Re: Wikileaks.org still down. 2 months & counting...

Postby pablonite » Fri 12 Feb 2010, 11:52:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'B')ah! What is it about humans--they just can't stand to see anything succeed. They must destroy or main everything. I wish the die off would hurry up. I am so disgusted this morning! :cry:

Some peoples success is built on other peoples failure. Hold your head up, fight the good fight :lol:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SeaGypsy', 'I')f you read the current page on wikileaks.org at wikipedia it says they have received a lot (hundereds of thousands of $ worth) of pro bono legal help in defeating over 100 attempts to shut it down.

Sweet baby jeebus, there ARE good lawyers out there! Did not know this - the pro bono work that is, wow.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bas', 'I') don't think I ever heard of a scoop that landed them in the MSM.

This is what annoys me more than anything but then like I said, who is going to dig up more critical information vital to public interest and civilization in general than a program like wikileaks? Some embedded reporters with the New York times, Washington Post or Wall Street Journal? :roll:

The Woodward and Bernstein example lost its luster decades ago. The 4th estate is broken - completely. It's replacement is forming, there is resistance.
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Re: Wikileaks.org still down. 2 months & counting...

Postby SeaGypsy » Fri 12 Feb 2010, 12:00:25

Geez FL! Wake up on the wrong side this morning?

Bas, wikileaks is owned by the same dudes as piratebay. In Australia their leaking of the 1st censorship list on the net here made headlines; since then the name has been getting around a lot more. Their are a lot of extremely hot stories on the site (when it is working) the lack of general MSM exposure has more to do with the timidity of the MSM than any lack of available content. Who wants real news when Brangelina are splitting up/ not splitting up/ sueing those who said they are splitting up/ playing the MSM like the pack of fools and idol worshippers they are? I hope they win their courtcase(s) and do something really cool with the $. They could adopt a kid from every country in the world! Heck why not a boy and a girl from each, have a Brangelina's Ark for the human race/s at dieoff time? Get me? Everyone knows this silly shit because it is worldwide news. Where the Fark is the real news? On wikileaks. Brangelina should sling them 10 million $.
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Re: Wikileaks.org still down. 2 months & counting...

Postby IslandCrow » Sat 13 Feb 2010, 02:55:00

I know the BBC is not MSM but:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ikileaks and Iceland MPs propose 'journalism haven'


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8504972.stm
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Re: Wikileaks.org still down. 2 months & counting...

Postby pablonite » Tue 16 Mar 2010, 10:07:31

http://wikileaks.org/
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')15. Mar. 2010: U.S. Intelligence planned to destroy WikiLeaks, 18 Mar 2008
This document is a classifed (SECRET/NOFORN) 32 page U.S. counterintelligence investigation into WikiLeaks. ``The possibility that current employees or moles within DoD or elsewhere in the U.S. government are providing sensitive or classified information to Wikileaks.org cannot be ruled out''. It concocts a plan to fatally marginalize the organization...


Hmmm. Looks like the attack against whistleblowers is escalating!

S.372 is being rammed through or the correct term is "hotlined"? Don't know much about the US senate process...

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2010/03/03-3
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ASHINGTON - March 3 - Nationally recognized FBI whistleblower Dr. Frederic Whitehurst issued a letter today strongly opposing the repeal of FBI whistleblower rights contained in the current Senate version of the Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act (S. 372). This bill is currently being "hotlined" for unanimous consent.

In the 1990's Dr. Whitehurst blew the whistle on scientific abuses in the FBI crime lab. He won his cases and as a result, President Clinton signed an order protecting FBI agents who blow the whistle. The current Senate bill repeals the Clinton order and the law it was based on. It will result in the dismissal of numerous pending whistleblower cases, including that of FBI Counterterrorism Unit Chief Bassem Youssef...

I can see some need to restrain government employees from the ability to distribute electronic information willy nilly anonymously but from what I gather this bill seeks to close many doors that are still open.
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