[Bytesmiths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('entropyfails', 'M')ake
http://www.peakoil.com/wiki/index.php/S ... entchanges

part of your daily peakoil.com reading.

[EnviroEngr]

Link to the PostCarbon WIKI:

http://www.postcarbon.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

[Bytesmiths]

Any progress toward getting some innocuous enhancements installed?

I don't really want to admin it if my favorite tools aren't there!

[EnviroEngr]

Ever watch the old show "Bewitched"?

I need her nose.

Then things will get done.

[Bytesmiths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnviroEngr', 'E')ver watch the old show "Bewitched"?

I need her nose.

Then things will get done.

[EnviroEngr]

Nevermind the nose then.

We'll be doin' it like Darrin.

[EnviroEngr]

Thanks to Bytesmiths, EntropyFails and others who have contributed to the WIKI. It's starting to look pretty good.

[Nicholas]

A Work/Life Transformation Project

The Holigent Wikiworld project is up and running. This is an open webpage in which you can change and edit every page without limit. So bring your digital bricks and mortar and help craft the new foundation of a sustainable future. You can start at http://www.holigent.org

Nicholas

[turmoil]

THAT is cool.

[eclipse]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaknik

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomer

and everything in between.

Wikipedia becomes its own reviewing process.

[Ming]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eclipse', 'h')ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaknik

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomer

and everything in between.

Wikipedia becomes its own reviewing process.

[Aaron]

No mention of Landers... hmmm.

[bobcousins]

Pity that they will probably get deleted, a better place would be the PO Wiki if not already.

The PO Wiki appears to be broken though.

[peaknik]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A') peaknik is a person who studies or has an interest in the Peak Oil or the Hubbert peak theory of oil depletion proposed by M. King Hubbert and is concerned for the possible long effects on society. Peakniks are also involved in promoting public awareness of Peak Oil.

Peaknik is a variation of the term peacenik. The use of "-nik" evokes a counterculture attitude to the status quo.

[aflurry]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peaknik', 'N')o bad for a definition. However, it misses the "beat generation" connection and the resulting "beatnik" term.

[eclipse]

Does anyone have ANY radio episode where Peaknik or Doomer went out in the mass media? It seems that's the benchmark they use for keeping neologisms.

[Bandidoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he typical Doomer response to peak oil and the collapse of the industrial system is to “ignore civilization to death” by setting up a Permaculture village.

[eclipse]

Bandidoz... your signature sounds like you are firmly in the Doomer category. Did you find the definition patronizing at all?

As a peaknik who thinks / hopes we can avoid Mad Max, I'm trying to get peak oil awareness out there... and getting the Doomer category firmly established in Wikipedia seems a strategic move.

The idea of a spectrum will also facilitate quicker paradigm discussions here.

But it's going to be deleted unless I get a few firm cases of it being in the mainstream media.

[Bandidoz]

No, not at all patronising.

I do see some merit in the terms being merged into a new section under the "hubbert" page, though.

[eclipse]

Do you and mates have Wikipedia usernames? Can you vote? Can you add your voice to keeping this term alive?

I'm a peaknik that occassionally heads into a centralist position.

In other words, I'm fairly sure that civilization will make it... but am passionately campaigning for awareness about this most monumental stuff up in public policy. When I encounter denial, I start to see Doomer scenarios open up.

See how having our own language opens up conversations quickly? Peaknik sounds positive, counter-cultural, cool, with it, and yet we are still talking about oil. (Geeks!)

Doomer sounds frightening, ominous, maybe even a little nuts but hopefully not too much so. It's not the norm, for sure.

Yet we have people introducing themselves this way at SPO... "Hi, I'm a doomer." First post ever.

So what do you say? Is there any way to keep the article in? I'm all for it, as we already have a quick sketch of the Malthusian catastrophe scenario under Hubbert's Peak, but not enough detail. A Doomer thread might allow extra space for the scenarios, and even a few quotes from Matt Savinar, Duncan, et al... rather than swelling out the Hubbert's peak scientifically credible piece with too much Doomer philosophy. The Doomer article seems a much more sensible place for this discussion.