[Last_Laff]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wxman', 'I') think the show can be broken down into parts.

First 15-20 minutes: Background of the problem. I thought this was well done, and they pretty much stated that the Peak is here or imminent. No waffling at all.

Next 25-30 minutes: Going through the alternatives. I agree with a few other posters that they spent far too little time on the negatives of each. It was like a one sentence "this is bad for the environment and expensive" statement after they spent 5 minutes going through the technology. They touched somewhat on EROEI, but I think that they should have covered this more. It ended up being pretty cornucopian.

Last 10 minutes: Basically the doomer porn that many were looking for. A bleak what-if scenario of things that would lead to a breakdown of society.

[Leanan]

Thanks, CentralStump!

[joewp]

Here it is on Google Video, complete with incongruous commercials:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 7176&hl=en

I didn't put it in the google search engine, so this post is the only place you can find it. Obviously this is for educational purposes only, in accordance with the fair use doctrine!

[centralstump]

At some point last night the tracker went down. I hope there was enough parts out there to continue the download. The tracker is back up now.

[Kingcoal]

I saw the show the other night and it was excellent. I thought they would try to sugarcoat the issue, but they didn't in my opinion. After the show, they had another show about alternatives, probably to try to soothe the fears of the uninitiated.

[Pablo2079]

Watched it last night (recorded on the DVR).

Before it started, I noticed that it had already been watched. Found out that my son (16) had watched it. I asked him about it (in front of his GF) and his response was interesting. He discounted the whole idea because of the last 10 minutes (doomerish). He then turned to his girlfriend and said "and my Dad actually believes this stuff"....

anyway....

I thought it might be a good show for someone who knows very little about the issue. It tried to cover to much ground and did seem to make it all seem a little fictional. Overall, it was good to see this type of show in the MSM.

[DomusAlbion]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joewp', 'H')ere it is on Google Video, complete with incongruous commercials:

[Paranoid_Android]

If I remember correctly, I think they say that world oil production would increase to 100mbpd and that that wouldn't be enough for the world. At this point TSHTF. However, when they mentioned the increase in world oil production to 100mbpd I wondered, "Is this a realistic number?" I've always been under the impression that the idea of world oil production going that high is merely a fantasy/hope.

Anyone care to comment?

[XOVERX]

I watched it.

Right off the bat, they give a quote that sometime between now and "2040", the world will hit peak oil.

2040?

So we're fine, just fine, we've got 35 years before we need to get serious.

That's what I took away from the show.

Sorta like Yellowstone could blow any time now so why worry?

[theragtopguy]

Thanks for posting that link. I just watched it, pretty good show. I don't think most of the younger generation believe it. My two kids are sure that 'technology will come up with something'. They are 27 and 32.

I find the entire show extremely possible, maybe even probable. Especially the way it ends with the mushrooms sprouting. Unfortunately, that's the way we as a species are.

That's why I believe in enjoying as much life as I can because I'm afraid that we are rapidly approaching that tipping point and our government isn't doing a damn thing to help the transition.

At the very least they should be refurbishing the RR to get motor freight off the road and on the tracks, that would be a tremendous savings of resources. It would help buy us some time.

But there is NO sense of urgency to do ANYTHING!!

I shudder to think what kind of lifestyle my grand-children will have.

[eastbay]

Wow, thanks for the google vid. Saw it this afternoon. Emailed it around. All things considered, a great show on our topic.

Has anyone seen this video yet? Not exactly on topic, but a message for those who insist on clinging to the mistaken belief that PO won't affect them because it's not now, but 'out in the future' somewhere.

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'H')as anyone seen this video yet?

[Narz]

Want some sad irony, play 48:25 on (on the Google video version joewp posted).

Dark humor at it's finest (in context on the 5 minutes of documentary preceding and proceeding).

[Bas]

Could some of the seeders of the torrent start seeding again? I'm stuck at 30%. thank you!

[Aimrehtopyh]

They finally did one on Peak Oil. The series is of decent quality, covering meteor strikes, tsunamis, global warming, bird flu and the like.

It's only an hour long, which we all know is inadequate to explore the subject with the depth it deserves.

Many of the well-known "heavies" of the Peak Oil speaking tour crowd were interviewed. Kunstler was conspicuously absent.

They spent maybe ten minutes talking about M. King Hubbert himself but still failed to show a chart plotting probable future global output over time. Hubberts bell curve was on the screen for less than ten seconds, and it only showed U.S. production from like 1900-2050.

Staying true to the series it did actually delve pretty deeply into what some would call "doomer scenarios". They even went so far as to describe it as a "Mad Max world".

It's my opinion that they focused too much on transportation. Also, "solutions" were presented, but never described as hopelessly inadequate. The idea that alternative energy schemes have crippling shortcomings is a core tenet of most Peak Oil worries.

You can buy the DVD for about $25 or look at the broadcast schedule at www.history.com

[Leanan]

There's some discussion of it here:

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic33707.html

I thought it was pretty good, all things considered.

I'm really starting to think 1 hour is ideal for a peak oil documentary. People have short attention spans these days.

[KillTheHumans]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aimrehtopyh', 'M')any of the well-known "heavies" of the Peak Oil speaking tour crowd were interviewed. Kunstler was conspicuously absent.

[vfr]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aimrehtopyh', 'T')hey finally did one on Peak Oil. The series is of decent quality, covering meteor strikes, tsunamis, global warming, bird flu and the like.
It's only an hour long, which we all know is inadequate to explore the subject with the depth it deserves.
Many of the well-known "heavies" of the Peak Oil speaking tour crowd were interviewed. Kunstler was conspicuously absent.
They spent maybe ten minutes talking about M. King Hubbert himself but still failed to show a chart plotting probable future global output over time. Hubberts bell curve was on the screen for less than ten seconds, and it only showed U.S. production from like 1900-2050.
Staying true to the series it did actually delve pretty deeply into what some would call "doomer scenarios". They even went so far as to describe it as a "Mad Max world".
It's my opinion that they focused too much on transportation. Also, "solutions" were presented, but never described as hopelessly inadequate. The idea that alternative energy schemes have crippling shortcomings is a core tenet of most Peak Oil worries.
You can buy the DVD for about $25 or look at the broadcast schedule at www.history.com

[roccman]

http://www.history.com/minisites/life_after_people/

[auscanman]

Definitely looks like it would be worth watching