[greenworm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')eak oil helped make me a Christian.

[burritos]

I find that people who are more logical, scientific and thoughful don't find much use in believing in an almighty. Am I off base?

[Carlhole]

I think most of us here are.

I think there have been polls on it before.

[wisconsin_cur]

I guess it depends upon what type of people you hang out with.

I find no "faith" more illogical than humanism. That doesn't mean that you cannot be a rational atheist but most atheists I meet are humanist.

Right up there on the illogical scale is the theist who proclaims (or acts like) "God just wants me to be happy and if I'm obedient I will be happy." Most American Christians seem to fit this bill.
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On the opposite side of the spectrum: the atheist who holds to some form of Darwinism (Tao-Darwinism has the most appeal to me), but I am not an atheist. Well sometimes I am one late at night but so far I always wake up a theist again.

Also on that end is the Anabaptist Christian. It is more clear eyed (and hence ambivilant to hostile to) the modern world. It expects faith will not lead to pleasure or comfort here on earth but the opposite.
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We have a tendency when we talk of belief in God to attack the weakest arguments of the other. We like to pick on the straw Evangelical or the Straw Darwinist. You can be logical about either. but it is rare to find anyone who is.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'I') think most of us here are.

[jasonraymondson]

Personally I find that there are way to many christians on here for my taste.

But I am neither atheist or theist. I am an agnostic. To sum up, I don't know and I sure as hell don't care.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'P')ersonally I find that there are way to many christians on here for my taste.

But I am neither atheist or theist. I am an agnostic. To sum up, I don't know and I sure as hell don't care.

[RedStateGreen]

I'm not.

[Tyler_JC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'P')ersonally I find that there are way to many christians on here for my taste.

But I am neither atheist or theist. I am an agnostic. To sum up, I don't know and I sure as hell don't care.

[Plantagenet]

I'm a Unitarian. I'm interested in all religions, including atheism.

[jasonraymondson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'P')ersonally I find that there are way to many christians on here for my taste.

But I am neither atheist or theist. I am an agnostic. To sum up, I don't know and I sure as hell don't care.

[PolestaR]

Some good points made by JasonRay and PlantanAgentInPeakoil.com

Atheism is a religion because they have faith in there being nothing, it's unproven. As such they are as stupid/illogical as any other religious person. Agnosticate it to the bank.

There are a lot of religious people here, but you must understand why. It's a little book at the back of most "holy" bibles called revelations. It undoes pretty much the rest of the bible by adding a judgement day (the rest of the book was "ask and youll be forgived"). Anyhow in revelations the end of the world is talked about, and the religious people here mostly think PO is somehow tied into it.

Also most western athiests are very similar to western christians, sure there is at least one "core" difference, the god, but their values are nearly all the same anyhow thanks to society.

[MD]

I'm not atheist.

This board has little in the way of religious/philosophical debate and personally I like it that way. There's a zillion other board out there that are just stuffed with that sort of dialog, if that's what you are into.

Most of them start with a flame bait post, such as this one, and it's nice to see that once again this board has refused the bait.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'P')ersonally I find that there are way to many christians on here for my taste.

But I am neither atheist or theist. I am an agnostic. To sum up, I don't know and I sure as hell don't care.

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '.')..
You are just to damn insignifigant to know one way or the other and by professing knowledge one war or the other you lavel youselves as idiots.

[Cloud9]

One of my greatest fears is that we might be a 9th grade science project.

[blukatzen]

There are a few here, maybe not many, but a few, who practise their pre-Christian native faiths, or are what some may call "Pagan" and "Heathen".

[some_guy282]

I'm an agnostic.

[Pops]

I guess I’m kind of like Tyler except for the sun worshiping part, but for me it is hard to separate God from Religion.

I grew up in a little Baptist church where some of my uncles were deacons (or whatever they are called), one grandfathers was a part time preacher and all that. As I got older I hung out at a bar or two and met some “un-churched people” as the saying goes.

The upshot is that I’ve met evil Christians and saintly sinners and whether they went to church or not had nothing to do with it except to make some intolerant of the beliefs of others as is reflected in this thread.

The interesting thing about growing up in church is the how the traditions affect you. I love old-timey gospel music, dressing up for church, Sunday dinner with the extended family. I always encouraged my kids to go to church with their friends though I never did except for special occasions. At thanksgiving, Christmas, etc. one will usually offer a prayer.

I guess it is kind of strange but I and whatever grandkids are around always get cleaned up and go to the library on Saturdays, then to the park, museum or whatever.

So, no, I’m not a true believer. What I do believe is Heaven or Hell is in how folks remember you when you're gone.

Cripes, this is way too deep for Saturday morning.

[lawnchair]

I call myself a deist. Science isn't going to explain why there is something, not nothing. My mind is simple enough to believe in causality back to an ultimate cause.

But, to believe that humans (or one race/creed of humans) are the apple of God's eye was always hubristic. To believe it after Copernicus, Galileo, and Darwin is insane.