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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby swingbolder » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 16:51:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'R')eally? Raw leafy food is full of alkaloids, actually difficult to digest.


Raw food is only difficult to digest when one is not used to the large amount of fiber, due to years of eating a denatured cooked food diet. Once the digestive system gets used to it -- this can take several weeks -- raw food is easy to digest, you have bowel movement 2-3x a day and a lot of chronic health problems can get cleared up, without drugs.

I had parasites once -- roundworms -- and I "starved" them out literally by doing a one-month juice fast, along with daily enemas. Basically with fasting you clean out a lot of the extra mucus and junk in your intestines and in doing so you make the intestinal environment inhospitable to the critters. . . .truly, you haven't lived until you've experienced crapping out dead 9-inch worms in the toilet.

I've been eating a predominantly raw food diet for two years and during that time I've thrown away my meds for asthma, arthritis, chronic sinus infections. I've also gotten exactly one cold in that time whereas before I "went raw" I used to get colds 2-3 times a year.

My husband does the colonix program once a year every spring to "clean out."
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Carlhole » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 17:34:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
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They give you a gallon of solution to drink that absolutely cleans everything loose out of the intestines. And this is imporatant because a physician wants to check for lesions or colitis or diverticulitis and mst be able to see very clearly.

You idiots are talking about some kind of Satan Poop that not only goes wantonly ignored by the medical profession every time they do a colonoscopy but would make a colonoscopy virtually impossible to perform if such a phenomenon existed.


Well, what is this doctor-approved formula?

And what exactly is the explanation for the poop-flail? What IS it?


Sodium bicarbonate, potassium salts and that sort of thing.
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Postby BlisteredWhippet » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 18:21:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('swingbolder', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'R')eally? Raw leafy food is full of alkaloids, actually difficult to digest.


Raw food is only difficult to digest when one is not used to the large amount of fiber, due to years of eating a denatured cooked food diet. Once the digestive system gets used to it -- this can take several weeks -- raw food is easy to digest, you have bowel movement 2-3x a day and a lot of chronic health problems can get cleared up, without drugs.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')I had parasites once -- roundworms -- and I "starved" them out literally by doing a one-month juice fast, along with daily enemas.


Thats fucked up. HOW do you get worms and how do you know you have them?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')I've been eating a predominantly raw food diet for two years and during that time I've thrown away my meds for asthma, arthritis, chronic sinus infections. I've also gotten exactly one cold in that time whereas before I "went raw" I used to get colds 2-3 times a year.


Yeah, I was mostly raw a while back and have recently been in a situation where a lot of restaurant food is the norm. I think if you have problems with raw food, its something particular to a digestive system. I think a combination of raw with foods you commonly think of as raw (salad stuff, nuts, etc.) combined with steaming veggies, yams, cauli, broc that are too tough for a newbie to gnaw on is a good way of preparing yourself. That and eating in a disciplined way so that the foods you are going to subsist on are eaten every day, at least a little, so your system is primed to produce specific enzymes. Otherwise your system has to "improvise" for novel foods which is not as efficient.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')My husband does the colonix program once a year every spring to "clean out."


I am pretty certain that this entire thread is a joke played on us by FalconofFury. Just FYI.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Carlhole » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 23:00:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') am pretty certain that this entire thread is a joke played on us by FalconofFury. Just FYI.


I'm pretty sure that he actually believes this horseshit.

But, lest anyone think that I'm anti-health, I picked up some Wheatgrass (www.amazinggrass.com) from GNC yesterday (it's right next door to the supermarket). And I asked the clerk about bowel cleansers and everything.

Well, she quickly pulled out a dog-eared and well-frayed copy of Dr. Hulda Clark's book about how to get rid of worms and parasites and the impacted remains of Quarter Pounders from the early 1970's and the whole fucking deal. Jeebus Cripers! She launched right into her Black Walnut, Wormwood and Cloves routine as for the hundredth time.

So, I asked her, "How come all this nasty crap don't show up in a colonoscopy". And all she could say was "Jeez, I never thought of that. I wonder why not?" Then I told her about Dr. Clark's Electronic Food Zapicator.

I tell ya, people have lost the not-so-fine art of critical thinking.

Anyway, if you want to try something really tasty, get yourself some Odwalla Carrot Juice, put in the freezer for about an hour until it starts to slush, mix in a packet of Amazing Grass Wheatgrass and slurp it down. Best after a workout when you're really thirsty.

Hmm hmmm . Every cell of your body will break out into a shiteatin' smile! :-D
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby swingbolder » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 12:18:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', '
')Thats fucked up. HOW do you get worms and how do you know you have them?


I think I got them from eating some bad supermarket sushi. I started having problems: breathing, asthma, intestinal pains. I did the fast to alleviate those symptoms, not knowing what the cause was. Then when I started crapping out the worms over a series of days I did some research, that's how I knew it was roundworms. Long nine-inch suckers. After a few weeks I didn't see any more worms, and my breathing went back to normal and the intestinal pains went away.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby smallpoxgirl » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 12:37:36

I just want to say that I'm really pissed that FF waited until after the wingnut of the year award nominations were over to post this, cause this is way nuttier than most of Lorenzo's swastica posts.

I've personally seen inside at least 100 colons. I have yet to see a single worm, a fungus ball or any mucus ropes. These colon cleanse products are utter garbage. If you're believing that stupid garbage, you deserve to be seperated from your money. Shoot esspresso up your butt if you really feel compelled, but for god's sake don't pay good money for this histrionics.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Carlhole » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 13:04:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', ' ')Shoot esspresso up your butt if you really feel compelled, but for god's sake don't pay good money for this histrionics.


Thank you, SMG.

Let me ask you: Is there anything at GNC or in herbal supplements or remedies that you DO consider useful, interesting, purifying or otherwise health-enhancing?
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby smallpoxgirl » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 13:33:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'L')et me ask you: Is there anything at GNC or in herbal supplements or remedies that you DO consider useful, interesting, purifying or otherwise health-enhancing?
Sure. Glucosamine/Chondroitin really does help with arthritis. If you're trying to put on muscle mass, protien suplements couldn't hurt. Creatine probably helps also, but the risks are hard to know at this point. Saw Palmetto is good for the prostate-trouble demographic. Otherwise, a good multivitamin, maybe some calcium, and if you're a reproductive age female, maybe some folate.

I'm generally pretty supportive of herbalism, acupuncture, and Traditional Chinese Medicine. The real problem is that there is an interface where alternative medicine, science, and comercialism all come together that tends to perpetuate utter garbage. The blood type diet is another example that just makes me steam. It's this mix of alternative medicine that isn't really any sort of traditional anything with a bunch of scientific sounding stuff that isn't scientific at all. Pure hucksterism.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Carlhole » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 14:42:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'I')'m generally pretty supportive of herbalism, acupuncture, and Traditional Chinese Medicine. The real problem is that there is an interface where alternative medicine, science, and comercialism all come together that tends to perpetuate utter garbage.


My girlfriend was diagnosed with a twistd colon a couple of years ago and wound up having an laparoscopic anastomosis. Everything was OK for a couple of months and then she developed abdominal pain again. Diagnosis: Adhesions.

Adhesions do not have a very high cure rate and, in fact, they can grow worse after each adhesiolysis.

Now she's had one laparoscopic adhesions surgery and it doesn't look like it has solved the problem. So I was checking ito Chinese herbalism and acupuncture for her but I'm very skeptical of it.

See http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRel ... s/acu.html

I contacted an acupuncturist here:
http://www.medicalacupuncture.org/findadoc/index.html

...who was no longer practicing in the area but she recommended someone else who is both an Acupuncturist, a Chinese Herbalist and an MD. And I think my girlfriend is going to try it. It doesn't seem dangerous.

I could see how perhaps acupuncture might help to control pain but I doubt that Chinese herbs would have much effect beyond placebo.

However, ever since the real possibility of acupuncture has arisen, my girlfriend has quit compalining of pain quite so frequently! So maybe it works after all.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Falconoffury » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 15:01:46

I don't have to believe it. I experienced it. Maybe the parasites were living deep within the intestines, where the colonoscopy could not reach. I don't know what part of my digestive track the rope and the worms were living in. I just know that they came out.
"If humans don't control their numbers, nature will." -Pimentel
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby smallpoxgirl » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 15:10:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'I') don't have to believe it. I experienced it. Maybe the parasites were living deep within the intestines, where the colonoscopy could not reach. I don't know what part of my digestive track the rope and the worms were living in. I just know that they came out.
I have been in operating rooms. Cut intestines open. Looked inside. No worms. No ropes. No way. Sorry.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby smallpoxgirl » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 15:29:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'S')o I was checking ito Chinese herbalism and acupuncture for her but I'm very skeptical of it.
IMHO acupuncture is probably a better solution than western medicine for chronic pain. If she's having bowel obstructions, OTOH, I don't know how much Chinese medicine would help. For people with recurrent bowel obstructions there just doesn't seem to be a great solution. Surgery is the only real fix, and as you said, every surgery makes more adhesions.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby KhanCEO » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 16:40:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'I') don't have to believe it. I experienced it. Maybe the parasites were living deep within the intestines, where the colonoscopy could not reach. I don't know what part of my digestive track the rope and the worms were living in. I just know that they came out.
I have been in operating rooms. Cut intestines open. Looked inside. No worms. No ropes. No way. Sorry.


Doesn't matter, the stuff came out, personally I dont want worms living in me or anything that effects my health. Falconfury said he felt a lot better after he got his colon cleansed, that is all that matters.

I was surprised to know that this stuff comes out of people after doing a colon cleanse.

People are living with worms and nasty shit in their bodies
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby WildRose » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 17:35:50

I attended a symposium a number of years back, and one of the speakers was a local gastrointestinal specialist. Her advice was simple, and I have followed it with good results since then.

Her recommendations:

- drink lots of water

- ensure your diet has adequate fiber and is not too high in fat

- get regular exercise

- most importantly, EAT REGULAR MEALS - meaning about the same
times every day and about the same size of meals, because doing
this keeps the peristaltic motion of the colon functioning normally.
Peristalsis is the muscular motion of the digestive tract that keeps
things moving along smoothly.

Works for me!
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby threadbear » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 18:27:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('swingbolder', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'R')eally? Raw leafy food is full of alkaloids, actually difficult to digest.


Raw food is only difficult to digest when one is not used to the large amount of fiber, due to years of eating a denatured cooked food diet. Once the digestive system gets used to it -- this can take several weeks -- raw food is easy to digest, you have bowel movement 2-3x a day and a lot of chronic health problems can get cleared up, without drugs.


Really? Eat a bunch of raw rhubarb and get back to us when you recover. Man's repertoire of edible veggies increased when he began cooking food.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby swingbolder » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 18:31:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'R')eally? Eat a bunch of raw rhubarb and get back to us when you recover. Man's repertoire of edible veggies increased when he began cooking food.


That's true, some veggies are more easily digested in their cooked state (like broccoli for instance). I personally stick to greens mostly (lettuce, kale, collards, dandelion, etc.).
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby BlisteredWhippet » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 19:25:56

I would believe that a worm infestation could come from eating Sushi.

Sushi is supportive of unsustainable and immoral fishing practices.

SHIT WORMS, SUSHI EATING EARTH RAPERS!!!
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Falconoffury » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 21:42:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') have been in operating rooms. Cut intestines open. Looked inside. No worms. No ropes. No way. Sorry.


Well, then the chemicals given to clean the digestive tract the couple of days before surgery must be very effective. Still, you can probably save a lot of money getting one of the natural cleansing products.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby cynicalheretic » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 21:43:59

I am on my third day of my anus cleaning program. Still no worms or long pieces of rope. Just a horrible case of the shits. Might as well have taken eX-Lax. But my god, I have lost near 10 pounds. Though I do think it is mostly water weight.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby PolestaR » Mon 01 Jan 2007, 00:28:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'I')'ve personally seen inside at least 100 colons. I have yet to see a single worm, a fungus ball or any mucus ropes. These colon cleanse products are utter garbage. If you're believing that stupid garbage, you deserve to be seperated from your money. Shoot esspresso up your butt if you really feel compelled, but for god's sake don't pay good money for this histrionics.


So wait let me get this straight.. you are saying it's impossible for humans to have worms living in their digestive tracts? Or just in their colons? Because that is a laughable outlandish thing to say, and deserves the wingnut of the year post.
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