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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby smiley » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 16:26:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hough, what if it is broke? I am sure we were doing fine until a hundred years or so ago, but evolution is to slow for the onslaught we are currently assaulting our bodies with. I have never done anything like this before, but I know my body is in bad shape and I have felt for a long time I needed to clean it out.


I agree. But should we blame our bodies for what we're doing to them? Should we fix our bodies or our lifestyle?

I've never been a health freak, but when my wife developed a food allergy a few years back. I was forced to read the labels on the food packages. That was a real eye-opener. IMO some of the things we call food really should be labeled as chemical waste. Especially some of the so-called health-products.

Me and my wife then decided that we would spend the extra buck on good food. Not the harvested at full moon, grown whilst playing Beethoven kind of bio-stuff, but just fresh veg's, fresh fruit and fresh meat (without antibiotics).

Without wanting to dwell too much on the poop subject, I can tell you that you notice the difference within months, if not weeks. :oops:

Since two years I have also taken up sports again. And if I compare my track times with those when I was 18 I am in better shape now than ever. It was really a supprise to me to see how fast your body is able to recover from years from neglect.

So now I strongly believe that the ingredients for a healthy life are a healthy diet, sufficient exercise, and a good dose of fun (as opposed to stress).

....and there are no shortcuts, no magic potions or rituals, that can replace any of them.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby threadbear » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 16:28:07

I guess if you want to start a movement, your bowels are a great place to start!

Personally, I consider the entire colonics thing to be almost entirely bogus. Granted, we need a high fiber, low fat, low meat diet, but the average person doesn't carry around a bunch of digested or rotten matter in his gut, unless he/she has some kind of life threatening obstipation. Believe me, if you have this, the first thing to go is your appetite. My dog had prostate cancer that blocked his colon for a very short time, just before we put him to sleep. He had quit eating for several days while the pressure built.

Colonics is a neurotic European fixation on the gut, that takes the zeal for antiseptic environments, expressed in overly fastidious, clean houses, and directs the same energy to the body. Very Freudian.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Falconoffury » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 16:30:18

I'm not saying that a colon cleanse is a magic potion that is all you need to be healthy. I'm just saying that it's an effective way to get some very bad things out of your body, and it can be part of a healthy lifestyle.
"If humans don't control their numbers, nature will." -Pimentel
"There is not enough trash to go around for everyone," said Banrel, one of the participants in the cattle massacre.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby cynicalheretic » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 16:31:23

Now, why do people shove coffee up their butts?
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby threadbear » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 16:32:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynicalheretic', 'N')ow, why do people shove coffee up their butts?


Is that insane, or what? Some people, I read somewhere, get "addicted" to it. Yuuuuuuukkkkkk!!!!
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby threadbear » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 16:36:07

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If you take less than 2 bowel movements a day, you are probably in need of a candida, parasite, and colon cleanse, in my opinion. I've heard it sometimes relieves problems that you wouldn't think would be linked to your colon, like headaches, back pain, fatigue, and arthritis.

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Bull bowel movement! :lol: I don't know about the other end, but you sure talk some crazy shit.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby mgibbons19 » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 16:37:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', 'H')ow exactly did you do it?


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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby smiley » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 16:38:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')olonics is a neurotic European fixation on the gut, that takes the zeal for antiseptic environments, expressed in overly fastidious, clean houses, and directs the same energy to the body. Very Freudian.


:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

ROFLMAO that's one for the PO hall of fame
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby mgibbons19 » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 16:48:18

Ok, I just looked at the pics on that site. I don't feel so good anymore. What the hell are they shitting out!?
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby dogf » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 16:55:52

I have had the runs for about 20 years now. I go about 7-10 times a day and always soft at best. Around the same time I was not able to keep down vegetables and fruits. Love the taste of them, but they just don't stay down. So I really am a meat and potatoes type. And at 43 I do look like a pear. I think it's time I looked into this further. New years resolution and all.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Falconoffury » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 16:56:07

Mgibbons, it's a fungus. It slows down the passage of feces through your body. It also creates pockets for those wonderful worms to nest in. It's not like a blockage due to cancer, because candida does not grow as relentlessly as cancer. It generally grows slower, so your body is able to adapt so much as to prevent total blockage.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby rogerhb » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 17:01:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', 'B')esides, the colon is the result of millions of years of evolution. Nature would have added a flush-function if that would have been necessary.


... and evolved to cope with a life span of forty.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Carlhole » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 18:06:31

None of this is believable.

Where can you read anything scientific about colonics or liver-cleansing? For something this easily testable and matter-of-fact, one should not have to rely on anecdotal evidence.

Why don't colonoscopies reveal impaction of old fecal matter and what-not? Why don't stool samples reveal parasites and flora, etc.

Colon-cleansing products are just a scam to sell a bunch of horseshit herbs to people. Look, they are priced all over the map with the more expensive treatments having the greatest sales piece attached.

If there were actually something to this, there is absolutely no reason why Western medicine would not include colon-cleansing in its treatment repetoire.

That argument that people always line up on eiter side of any argument is BS. Something as easily verified as colon cleansing is either has merit or does not. It has nothing to do with opinion.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby BlisteredWhippet » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 18:22:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dogf', 'I') have had the runs for about 20 years now. I go about 7-10 times a day and always soft at best. Around the same time I was not able to keep down vegetables and fruits. Love the taste of them, but they just don't stay down. So I really am a meat and potatoes type. And at 43 I do look like a pear. I think it's time I looked into this further. New years resolution and all.


Do you have some sort of reflux where the food comes back up your esophagus? This is not clear. But stool softness and frequent shitting clearly indicates a severe lack of fiber in the diet. If I were you (and I thank God I'm not) I would suggest replacing one meal a day with a product like this for immediate improvement:

http://www.mothernature.com/shop/detail.cfm/sku/40578

The key ingredients here are the Psyllium husk/seed and clays (bentonite and kaolin). There are quite a few products like this on the market, and most of them have these ingredients. You can also just get the pure ingredients, sometimes.

The way it works is pretty simple. If you take a tablespoon of ground or powdered psyllium husk and mix it in a glass of water, it turns into a gel. Increase the proportion of powder to water, and you will see an increase in solidity. A relatively small amount of psyllium mixed for a short time in water will make a spoon stand stright up in the glass. This is one of the basic ingredients of "Metamucil". Basically, psyllium is a plant fiber with a high degree of insoluble fiber, that is, that will pass right through the body. It will have several effects. One is it slows the metabolism. Since food stays in the body longer, more nutrition is extracted and you feel the need to eat less. Two, it "sweeps" the intestinal tract. The nature of the fiber is that it absorbs many times its weight in water. So when it gets into your intestine, it draws water through the intestinal wall, aiding the "sweep" effect. This is another reason why you need to drink copious amounts of water while taking something like this. Three, its the combination of fiber and water which creates the "bulky" stool. The bentonite clay is an aborbant for toxins, kind of like kitty litter for absorbing spilled oil. The other ingredients have supposed kidney or liver detoxifying effects.

New Year's Resolutions are for losers. If your own health isn't reason enough to start tomorrow, forget it. If you can't develop basic discipline in terms of your own body, forget it. I'm serious. The time you should've looked into this shit was back in your late 20s when you were still producing large quantities of growth hormone. The good news is that the sooner you start the sooner you'll feel better.

Others on this board might hold back from brutal honesty, but I will not, so consider this:

You will die without intervention. Its not how much, but really, what you eat. I am convinced that some large areas of the country no longer have access to wholesome food. Where do you live?

The problem is 90% your attitude. Its like this: you're like the kid on the playground that always gets picked on. Your body and mind have been kicking your ass for so long, you think they're in charge. Your body and mind, every day, is like, "Hey Fatass, why dontcha eat some more meat and potatoes?" And you're like, (*Sigh*) "Ohhh kayyy, Bert.... " I think it would be good for you, by meditation or therapy or both to cultivate a mindset where you are not a a victim. Assume, for instance, that you are an addict, only your "drug" is your own body and mind. They've been killing you. You need to assert some sort of Executive Control. You have to be more "Rocky" and less "Dilbert".

Another part of rehabilitiation no one talks about is pain. I would suggest getting in touch with it, because you're going to feel a lot of it over the next few years as your body changes. Another thing: don't ever jog, its stupid and will wreck your knees. Get a bicycle and have an expert "fit" it to you. Get one with the split seat.

Its highly likely that you no longer "hear" the signals your body is sending you. With over 100 million nerve endings in the Intestinal tract, if eating and health are one big "?", consider yourself digestively retarded. For real. Don't think too much about your options. It going to be better if you just start doing something for now.

I would suggest getting a book like "You: the owner's manual" by Drs. Mehmet and Oz (excellent), and take seriously their recommendations. Two, you're going to have to do focused exercise for at least a half hour a day, for the rest of your natural life. Plan on it. Three, I would suggest immediately transitioning to a completely vegetarian diet and cutting out milk products entirely.

I'm speaking from experience, not just recommending stuff I haven't tried.

And I would reiterate drinking lots of water. When I was experimenting with psyllium husk, I was ingesting double and triple doses of the stuff... cause I'm just like that. If you've never done it before, expect some mild to moderate pain and/or cramping as your digestive tract goes "wtf is this?" You're going to have to stick it out and resist the urge to puke. Did I mention drink lots of water?

Anyway, I took like a triple dose of straight psyllium. Like, imagine a ball of gelatin the size of a softball. Yeah... I slurped that down. Then, I didn't drink nearly enough water and went to sleep (which slows the metabolism). About an hour later, I woke up and was so extremely dehydrated that my tongue had dried out and my eyelids felt like sandpaper against my eyelids. Several quick glasses of water cured that.

The other thing is that you should space the ingestion of these products between meals. You should have a completely empty stomach. One time in my experiment I had psyllium WITH a meal. What happened was the psyllium and food mixed. Evidently, this was bad... the net result of this was that I did not shit for three whole days. So, only do it on an empty stomach, and not before bed. Before exercise is actually pretty good as the metabolic increase will aid the sweep effect.

You will probably experience abdominal pain, cramping, and gas pockets/flatulence as the fiber passes through your system. As you continue a daily program, these symptoms will wax and wane. Just FYI... which is what I mean by getting in touch with pain. Its a "good" pain. Some people get really emotional as well, probably having something to do with those 100 million nerve endings...
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby BlisteredWhippet » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 18:27:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'I')'m not trying to advertise any company, so I won't mention the name, but I'll say it's a popular system.


Whats with the false modesty? Just spit it out. No one here thinks you're full of shit. HAR HAR
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Falconoffury » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 18:45:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f there were actually something to this, there is absolutely no reason why Western medicine would not include colon-cleansing in its treatment repetoire.


The health care industry in the United States is out to make as much profit as possible. The various corporations that make up the health care industry have and will continue to lie and cover up facts in order to keep making profit.

When it comes to preventative medicine, and overall body health, I would say that natural medicine does a much better job than the pharmaceutical drugs that mainstream medicine uses.

The reason why the health care industry doesn't use an effective body cleansing system is because the ingredients that make up these systems are all natural, and non-patentable. There is no profit in a product that cannot be patented. It's that simple.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby dogf » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 18:50:11

Blistered,

I have been mentally preparing for a change. I accept the New Years thing is a loser position, but it is also real. Plans over the next week says I can't start full blown now.
But I agree with most of what you have said and I will follow through to the point I may agree with all over the next few weeks.

I did spend a few years drinking Metamucil and it was working. Then just forgot one day and....
Now I am taking their pill once a day. I agree I should and will go back to using the powder in larger amounts.
As for the food intake I also agree I have to make a change. I am ready to make this change as soon as logistically possible. I quit smoking 3 months ago after my 6 year old asked if I wanted to see her grow up. 1/2 a pack for 25 years and not a craving since. So I am ready. Ordered "Thesecret.tv" Really in the process of making changes.
As for the bike, for now I will just walk on the treadmill. Lungs won't allow a jog.
Other problem is an addiction to THC. Every evening food intake in gross. Tonight actually will be my 1st evening without.
Too many signs I need to change. 40 lbs in the last 3 months and haven't slept in about 8 days. In other words I accept I have to make some serious habit changes.
I am ready. And thx :)
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby threadbear » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 19:02:09

With friends like you dudes, who needs enemas?
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby cynicalheretic » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 19:10:42

Ah carhole our resident medical sheep. Just because popular medicine doesn't promote something doesn't mean its not good for you.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby threadbear » Wed 27 Dec 2006, 19:29:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dogf', 'B')listered,

I have been mentally preparing for a change. I accept the New Years thing is a loser position, but it is also real. Plans over the next week says I can't start full blown now.
But I agree with most of what you have said and I will follow through to the point I may agree with all over the next few weeks.

I did spend a few years drinking Metamucil and it was working. Then just forgot one day and....
Now I am taking their pill once a day. I agree I should and will go back to using the powder in larger amounts.
As for the food intake I also agree I have to make a change. I am ready to make this change as soon as logistically possible. I quit smoking 3 months ago after my 6 year old asked if I wanted to see her grow up. 1/2 a pack for 25 years and not a craving since. So I am ready. Ordered "Thesecret.tv" Really in the process of making changes.
As for the bike, for now I will just walk on the treadmill. Lungs won't allow a jog.
Other problem is an addiction to THC. Every evening food intake in gross. Tonight actually will be my 1st evening without.
Too many signs I need to change. 40 lbs in the last 3 months and haven't slept in about 8 days. In other words I accept I have to make some serious habit changes.
I am ready. And thx :)


IBS. Lay off the dairy, quit drinking so much coffee....for starters.


Diet Changes

Some foods make IBS worse.

Here are some foods that may cause symptoms:

* fatty foods like french fries
* milk products like cheese or ice cream
* chocolate
* alcohol
* caffeine (found in coffee and some sodas)
* carbonated drinks like soda

http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/ibs_ez/#3
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