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WI bans microchip implants while others suggest otherwise...

Unread postby OilsNotWell » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 01:43:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')url=http://www.freemarketnews.com/Analysis/139/5127/2006-06-01.asp?wid=139&nid=5127]link[/url] WISCONSIN BANS FORCED HUMAN RFID CHIPPING Thurs, 1 Jun 2006
Groundbreaking Law Spotlights Opposition to VeriChip-Civil libertarians cheered yesterday upon news that Wisconsin Governor Jim Doyle signed a law making it a crime to require an individual to be implanted with a microchip. Activists and authors Katherine Albrecht and Liz McIntyre joined the celebration, predicting this move will spell trouble for the VeriChip Corporation, maker of the VeriChip human microchip implant.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')roposal to Implant Tracking Chips in Immigrants
31 May 2006--Scott Silverman, Chairman of the Board of VeriChip Corporation, has proposed implanting the company's RFID tracking tags in immigrant and guest workers. He made the statement on national television earlier this week.

Silverman was being interviewed on "Fox & Friends." Responding to the Bush administration's call to know "who is in our country and why they are here," he proposed using VeriChip RFID implants to register workers at the border, and then verify their identities in the workplace. He added, "We have talked to many people in Washington about using it...." link


So, as it becomes more and more difficult for the PTB to deny the economic realities the US is in (and look for scapegoats or succumb to blame), and as we face the downslope of peak oil, expect more Orwellian discussions such as this, don't you think? Anyone who still believes that far-right extremists haven't taken the US hostage and we aren't in grave danger of plunging headfirst into a totalitarian state are certainly denying reality.
Orwell was an optimist.

EDITED TO ADD: "First they microchipped all the cows, pigs, sheep, horses, and other farm animals.. Then they microchipped all the immigrants... Then they microchipped all the 'criminals'... Then the atheists, the homosexuals, and the free-speech bloggers...
And then they microchipped me.
Funny, but I don't feel any different now...

Hmmm, wonder what's on TV tonight. Oooh! 'America's Most Wanted Ghetto' Those kooky neighborhoods think they can thumb their noses at everyone, boy I tell you. Maybe they'll drop a few more wicked willy-pete incedienaries on them like last week..."
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Re: WI bans microchip implants while others suggest otherwis

Unread postby PolestaR » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 02:52:10

I wouldn't really worry.. governments could only enforce about 20 more years of "authority", or at least something close to what we think it is today.

Of course those 20 years are going to suck if they get their way, bring on the hard crash.
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Re: WI bans microchip implants while others suggest otherwis

Unread postby OilsNotWell » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 03:10:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')wouldn't really worry.. governments could only enforce about 20 more years of "authority", or at least something close to what we think it is today. Of course those 20 years are going to suck if they get their way

Righty-ho. How shall we describe it? Like the coiling of a dying giant serpent trying to squeeze the life (money) out of you while you fight to outlast it, gasping for breath? :shock:
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Re: WI bans microchip implants while others suggest otherwis

Unread postby PolestaR » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 03:34:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilsNotWell', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')wouldn't really worry.. governments could only enforce about 20 more years of "authority", or at least something close to what we think it is today. Of course those 20 years are going to suck if they get their way
Righty-ho. How shall we describe it? Like the coiling of a dying giant serpent trying to squeeze the life (money) out of you while you fight to outlast it, gasping for breath? :shock:

You're using too many adjectives. Simply say it's like SURVIVOR so the plebs will understand.... :lol: You know, filmed 24/7, fighting for scraps the producers ("government") give you, etc.
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Re: WI bans microchip implants while others suggest otherwis

Unread postby MacG » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 04:03:55

Good Luck is all I can say. They'll need it. Chip swapping, skimming and spoofing is just the beginning. There is NO way to guarantee that the chip actually stay in place. Every body piercer worth his weight in barbells will volunteer to take them out for a small fee. You see, people have different relationships to these little thingies than cats, dogs and cows. Those devices have lousy, lousy security, they were designed for benevolent environments. When Microsoft cant even keep the Xbox safe from modification -and it was designed for HOSTILE environments- what do they expect from RFID-tags?

If I wanted to rob a bank, I would make sure to wear someone elses tag. Anyone who think that ID theft is a problem as it is will start vomiting when thinking about all the clever ways to exploit those RFID chips. You have a tremendeous history of clever con-men in the US, and they will run around like 16-year olds with a day-pass on a brothel. VeriChip is just out fishing for some fat government contracts.
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Re: WI bans microchip implants while others suggest otherwis

Unread postby kam30en » Sun 04 Jun 2006, 21:03:37

This is all pointless. I'm not worried about mircrochips, and anyone on this site who is, needs a reality check. Really though, I'd take microchips and more easy living vs a chipless future and harsh suvivalism any day. But these chips would only use more oil.
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Re: WI bans microchip implants while others suggest otherwis

Unread postby Vexed » Sun 04 Jun 2006, 21:44:50

Microchips are just the beginning: Popular Science Article: Will Man Merge with Machine? Four dimensional vision anyone? :-D
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The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby dukey » Tue 30 Jan 2007, 18:48:28

Rockefeller Admitted Elite Goal Of Microchipped Population

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ollywood director Russo goes in-depth for first time on the astounding admissions of Nick Rockefeller, including his prediction of 9/11 and the war on terror hoax, the Rockefeller's creation of women's lib, and the elite's ultimate plan for world population reduction and a microchipped society


http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ja ... ergoal.htm

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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby eric_b » Tue 30 Jan 2007, 19:55:56

I've already been implanted. I'm not kidding. Some sort of nasal implants. Don't remember how they got there, but they're there. It appears the elite have a compartmentalized 'syndicate' which extends down to the street level. Part of the reason for this syndicate appears to be to 'neutralize' and control undesirable individuals (like me perhaps). Part of it may also be just for the sport of it. Sort of a parallel justice system.

I'm not certain what I did to attract the attention of these people. Perhaps it was the time I flashed some sort of low flying surveillance drone/plane during a nocturnal hike in 2002 (with a green laser pointer). But I think it extends back further than that, and may have to do with my online activities. I'll probably never know.

Anyway, I found out about this whole bizarre world of gang stalking and e-weapons harassment first hand. The worst part was the sleep deprivation. Had me sleeping in a tent just to get rest as I was like a fish in a barrel in my one room apartment.

So I've no doubt that 9-11 was an inside job and most of what this guy is saying in the interview is true. Getting other people to believe it is the hard part.

See this link for a good desciption of the control structures that are already in place at the street level:
http://www.rich-essence.com/TheHiddenEvil.pdf

There's been many decades of research in the US into mind control and implant technologies, and apparently the technology is quite mature at this point. The entire UFO abduction/implantation phenomenon was/is a front for these activities. They can erase memories pretty well, or implant bogus ones. It's pretty uncanny, cause there's very few things I can hide from them. The reason I know I've got these implants are they can click them to let me know they're aware of my actions.

Look, I don't expect many of you 'sheep' to believe this, but at least I can say I tried to warn you. I'm quite serious. Synthetic telepathy and mind reading are now largely reality, not schizo tin foil hat delusions.

See also:
John St. Clair - how the NSA remotely monitors and harasses law
abiding citizens:
http://www.iahf.com/nsa/20010214.html

Eleanor white's site - gang stalking and electronic harassment
http://raven1.net/

Book Review:Terrorist stalking in america:
http://www.raven1.net/terstalk.htm

Elctronic Harassment:
(I've talked to Liza via email, and her harassment is very
similar to my own, including the sinus implants. see her
story off this site.)
http://www.eharassment.ca/

Some interesting links on the state of affars in the UK:
(the democracy charade)
http://www.eharassment.ca/reference/lesdove1.htm

(microwave mind control)
http://www.whale.to/b/rifat.html

Freedom from covert harassment and surveillance
http://freedomfchs.com/

Satellite harassment:
http://www.surveillanceissues.com/

{EDIT: Here's another persons story... one of many that can be found on-line. This woman's family may have been targetted for generations..
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/v/mougey.htm
}

The rabbit hole is far deeper and more convoluted than you might imagine.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby Falconoffury » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 02:30:23

Eric, you should find a doctor who will confirm or deny the existence of the implant.

Not to side with the sheep, but a mind control implant sounds rather sophisticated and expensive. They would probably be very selective of those they choose to implant.

I read a number of books about alien abduction, but I haven't heard of compelling evidence that the abductions are actually humans using mind control.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby AWPrime » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 08:34:35

Let me guess, these chips don't show on a x-ray?
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 10:40:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'E')ric, you should find a doctor who will confirm or deny the existence of the implant.

Not to side with the sheep, but a mind control implant sounds rather sophisticated and expensive. They would probably be very selective of those they choose to implant.

I read a number of books about alien abduction, but I haven't heard of compelling evidence that the abductions are actually humans using mind control.


Really don't know if there's an implant there or not, and I was told the only way to completely check the sinuses is with an MRI or x-ray, which I'm not going to have done.

Which do you think is more likely - alien abductions or government experimentation?? Please.

I see you didn't comment on any of the links I posted. You might want to look at the John St. Clair NSA lawsuit, or the last one that I posted. <http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/mindnet/mn195.htm>

Put aside your doubts and consider the possibility that this technology is true. Think of the implications of this!!

quoted from <http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/v/mougey.htm>

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')The court case, Civil Action #93-0449 of John St. Clair Akwei vs. NSA (National Security Agency) at Ft. Meade, MD only confirms what my notes consist of, and what Judge Brandeis said in 1928. My notes have shown that if you are an operator of this equipment, you can do the following:

1. Force someone to hear your words ... subliminally or consciously. In any location from their home to their office, or a neighborhood park.

2. Sit in your home/office/car/boat/trailer, etc. and via a television or computer monitor, watch everything your subject is doing right now. You will view it through the subject's eyes on the monitor ... as though you were inside their head. (See the above Civil Action case ... listed in Mind Control Forum for confirmation on all of this). As an employee of a small carryout once said, "We're on Candid Camera." And, as a sales person once said, "Being in her view gives us a good chance to practice our sales pitch/position, and see what needs correcting." (This was in the broadcasting field.)

3. Pre-program a person to do anything without their conscious knowledge of the programming. Example: And this did happen to me. The subject carries her lunch to work. At the last minute, she will decide to eat in a certain restaurant instead, and give a logical reason to herself to justify the change in plans. You will have friends waiting to witness proof of your programming. Always more than one witness. The scene could be played anywhere you choose. If your witnesses are still doubtful, they can plan the next event themselves. This did happen to me; It's described in later material.

4. Hear what your subject is thinking, reading, writing, typing, planning (verbally or mentally), and everything being discussed with others, which automatically deprives your subject and everyone with her/him of their right to privacy. This includes during periods of personal hygiene. You can put anyone "on-line" as a viewer/listener from their office, their home, or the local Spa ... as has been done to me.

5. Biologically affect the subject's health. Including: speed up or slow down the heart beat/rate, cause chronic pain in any part of the anatomy. Nothing will show on X-ray because nothing is wrong. You can render them unconscious. What I call a "sleep attack" can knock you out in 5 to 10 seconds ... or gradually relax the person. They can be forced into a lethargic feeling/state of mind during which blood pressure drops ... and at times the walls could fall in before the subject would become alarmed. (This has nothing to do with the sleep disorder that has recently swept the country ... but it's too coincidental for me.)


This would be an amazingly powerful tool in the hands of those that wish to influence people, in addition to controlling people in the government. No implants required, and it can be done remotely. This of course is in addition to the time honored techniques of bribery, extortion and blackmail. These and many other technologies were developed in secrecy, and have now fallen into criminal hands or those with the cash and connections.

There's too much secrecy in the US, and it represents a grave threat to democracy. The 'leprosy of secrecy' has pretty much destroyed the US at this point, IMO.

And this doesn't even touch upon the extreme tin foil hat stuff - other technologies that I feel have been developed, but they are so outside the norm I'm not even going to attempt to enumerate them.

Of course, if you wanted to make someone appear mentally ill or crazy this technology would be the perfect tool to do so, and reinforce its cover at the same time.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby dukey » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 10:46:58

chips will probably either be just in peoples drivers licenses, or tiny implants under the skin (RFID chips).

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'ve already been implanted. I'm not kidding. Some sort of nasal implants.


sure you aren't getting confused with X-files ? :p

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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 10:48:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '
')Duh...that is exactly what a sane person would do Eric.
I suggest you see a doctor for other reasons...

Two doctors actually.
One for your body and one for your mind. :P



Yeah yeah yeah.

A typical rambling, ugly, barely coherent post from Raphael. Dude, go pull some more tubes and get back to me.

I see you choose to indirectly question my mental health - a predictable and weak response.. though not entirely out of line considering this thread [smilie=eusa_think.gif] .

Getting back to topic - my experiences completely reinforce what the interviewee in Dukey's link was talking about - at this point those with the money are calling the shots behind the scenes, and they are being aided and abetted my powerful technologies few people know exist. Stick that in your bong and smoke it.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby PolestaR » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 10:49:51

Russo was going well until he said "I just want to be a good christi... err person"

I don't trust any religious person.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 10:57:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'c')hips will probably either be just in peoples drivers licenses, or tiny implants under the skin (RFID chips).

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'ve already been implanted. I'm not kidding. Some sort of nasal implants.


sure you aren't getting confused with X-files ? :p


Forget the implant bit. I knew that would go over like a lead balloon.

Dukey I honesty consider the 'X-files' a brilliant propaganda coup to keep the 'sheeple' in the dark about the decades long experimentation into 'mind control' technologies - the research requires unwitting subjects to work. Using drugs, hynosis, and exposure to various types of EM radiation (non-ionizing) it may be possible to control a persons memory and experience.

Come on, do you think aliens are going to travel halfway across the galaxy to shove a probe up ur butt? Get a grip. It's all been gubmint experimentation.

Argh, this was this great link I wanted to post but I can't find it now. It detailed how many 'UFO abduictions' were likely fake memories implanted after government sponsered abductions. <adjust foil> If I can find it I'll post it later...
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby dukey » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 11:02:17

I know all about project MKULTRA or at least all that was declassified of it. But you've strayed miles off topic.

The struggle for power is between the bankers (the ones that print and issue your money) and us the people.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 11:08:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'I') know all about project MKULTRA or at least all that was declassified of it. But you've strayed miles off topic.


Sorry about the thread drift.. but this open discussion, right?

Back to UFO/government connection, look at these two links:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Substantial evidence exists linking members of this country's intelligence community (including the Central Intelligence Agency, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, and the Office of Naval Intelligence) with the esoteric technology of MIND CONTROL. For decades, "spy-chiatrists" working behind the scenes -- on college campuses, in CIA-sponsored institutes, and (most heinously) in prisons -- have experimented with the erasure of memory, hypnotic resistance to torture, truth serums, post-hypnotic suggestion, rapid induction of hypnosis, electronic stimulation of the brain, non-ionizing radiation, microwave induction of intracerebral "voices," and a host of even more disturbing technologies. Some of the projects exploring these areas were ARTICHOKE, BLUEBIRD, PANDORA, MKDELTA, MKSEARCH and the infamous MKULTRA.

http://ufo.whipnet.org/xdocs/controllers/index.html
http://www.assassinationscience.com/EMP5.htm

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', '
')The struggle for power is between the bankers (the ones that print and issue your money) and us the people.


Yes I agree. Getting other people to see this is the problem. Most people can't see beyond the 'tweedledee/tweedledum' 'democrat/republican' circus to see what's really happening.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby AWPrime » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 12:24:30

Eric, if the mindcontrol works, then why are you here?
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 12:49:36

Who needs mind control, when you have television? All you need to do is collar the sheep so you can see when they deviate from their little lives.
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