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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby username » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 14:07:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', 'c')hips will probably either be just in peoples drivers licenses, or tiny implants under the skin (RFID chips).


The idea of a national ID system with national ID numbers (i.e. SSNs) is far more dangerous than the ability to scan your drivers license digitally, which is already possible in many states in a limited sense using magnetic strips. RFID signals in a card can be easily blocked when privacy is needed so that's not an issue. People shouldn't focus so much on the technology used so much as the politics involved in its implementation.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 14:16:51

I actually think the microchip thing will never happen in any significant way. It freaks people out to much, and it's unnecessary. Biometrics will accomplish the same thing with much less outcry.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 14:31:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AWPrime', 'E')ric, if the mindcontrol works, then why are you here?


'Mind control' is too strong a word - perhaps 'mind influencing' is a better expression. In my case it appears to be more of a tracking/indimidation/harassment device than anything to outright control.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 14:56:29

No, that's paranoia.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby PrairieMule » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 14:59:01

Well after much delay I'll be getting a RFID chip in my car next week in the form of a toll tag. Like it or not, our offices have moved from Plano to Richardson and the toll road is the most efficient way to get there. Just about every Texan in all the metroplexes has been sold down the river by our governor.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 15:04:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', 'W')ho needs mind control, when you have television? All you need to do is collar the sheep so you can see when they deviate from their little lives.


I agree completely about TV. Forgot the possibility of any subliminal messages which can be embedded (see below), TV viewing puts viewers in a very passive state, and it tacitly controls what people are going to think about.

When I was a kid I had a paper route where I had to go door-to-door to collect money from people. It was a PITA, but it was an eye opener to see how many people lived. Often it would be a middle aged to older couple. The Television would dominate the living room, looking like some sort of alter, often times with pictures of the family on top of it. The television was almost always on. Picture an overweight man reclining in an EZ chair watching to tube, screaming at his wife (often next to him) to get the checkbook. I remember thinking and hoping I never turned out like that when I grew up.

Silent sound is a patented technique of embedding messages in the high frequency part of the audio range (14-20 KHz) which bypasses the conscious mind. In fact it's an entire suite of powerful techniques to influence people. Here's link, there's many more online:

http://www.raven1.net/silsoun2.htm
http://www.silentsound.co.uk/

Of course non of these things are fool proof. People have varying degrees of 'suggestibility'.

Then there are many other patents, such as:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')4940058
Apparatus and method for remotely detecting super-low frequency (SLF) and
extremely-low frequency (ELF) signals eminating from human subjects. The
SLF/ELF signals are composed of various wavelengths and amplitudes which
correspond to the subjects internal physiological processes. The apparatus
includes: a supercooled multi-plate arrayed antenna for detecting the SLF/ELF
signals; an analog signal conditioner unit adapted to filter out signals having a
frequency of greater than 40 Hertz; and a digital signal processor unit adapted
to perform Fast Fourier Transform and autocorrelation signal analyses for
separating signal wavelengths and amplitudes which correspond to the internal
physiological processes and represent EKG, EEG, EMG, EOG and respiration
measurements.


There's also a patent dating back from the 70's which uses interfering beams of RF or microwave radiation to remotely get ones EEG output.

See the patent list off this site (admittedly tin foil hat)
http://www.us-government-torture.com/techie.html

Look.. the reason I'm so hot about this is I've got first hand experience with some of these 'non-lethal' weapons. I can understand why many people have trouble believing this stuff. I wouldn't have believed it until I got hit with these things. Then you'll never forget. In my case it's obvious they can remotely ascertain ones overall mental state remotely, with a high degree of accuracy, without needing to use implants.

Sleep is a fundamental need, right up there with breathing, food and water. If you don't get it life aint worth living. It affects your entire body and is very damaging if chronic. And it's torture. In my case they would wait until I had just fallen asleep, or had just entered REM sleep, before jarring me awake. Over and over again. I'd lie in my bed, my entire body curled into a question mark, wondering if I'd be permitted to sleep. Despite being dog tired I developed a phobia of sleep as I was afraid of being jarred awake. And after being jarred awake they'd let me know it was no accident - I will not say how but they did. Sadisitic f*cks. The only way I could get relief was to escape my one room apartment and sleep in a tent in vacant lots or city parks. Then I got relief, and it also reaffirmed it was something being done to me in my apartment. Even in Dec/Jan (in Wisconsin) despite the cold I'd sleep like a brick after escaping my apartment, which had been turned into a virtual prison cell. It's a very effective way to destroy someone and have it appear they've gone crazy, and it's just one of many techniques and non-lethal weapons out there.

There'a also these links - again largely tin foil hat but there's probably some real stuff mixed in there.
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 15:08:39

Eric, what you're describing are the symptoms of anxiety disorder. I know because I had exactly the same symptoms of attempting to go to sleep and being "jarred" awake in a panic fear. And I became afraid of trying to sleep as well as afraid of leaving the house, answering the phone, etc.

This is a mental disorder, both an emotional and physiological malfunction.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 15:23:50

you are obviously sincere, eric, and I've spent some time before looking into this strange story. But there are so many weird stories going around these days. One of the most bizarre ones to me is the cattle mutilation story. Or how about the story of how the CIA was funding an effort to recruit, 'train' and utilize "remote viewers?" There is also the story about how police have supposedly used "psychics" to solve cases. And "Bigfoot" and "Alien Abductions" & "crop circles" and "reverse engineering UFO technology at Area 51" "mind control in the Columbine shootings" etc. etc. etc. There is so much bizarreness going around that we're all swimming in it and it gets to the point where the mind just says "enough! I can't take any more!" Sorry about your predicament, I don't know which would be worse, if it was true or if you just believed it to be true.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby Chuckmak » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 16:11:00

what's this Russo dude's first name?
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby MacG » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 16:24:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'I') actually think the microchip thing will never happen in any significant way. It freaks people out to much, and it's unnecessary. Biometrics will accomplish the same thing with much less outcry.


Yea. To the unreserved joy of every criminal worth his weight in crowbars. Both RFID and biometrics have rather severe limitations when it comes to security, and they are extremely vulnerable to hacking.

What could you do if your fingerprint or retina pattern got "on the loose"? Recall them and issue new ones?

If you just once leave your fingerprint or your retina pattern in a fake scanner - a "phishing machine"- then you are toast! Fake fingerprints and optical devices mimicking eyes are cheap and easy to manufacture.

And if the ATM's ever start to rely on fingerprints, a lot of people will suddenly look like Yakusha with cut-off fingers after small criminals have snatched their cards and the keys...
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 16:48:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'E')ric, what you're describing are the symptoms of anxiety disorder. I know because I had exactly the same symptoms of attempting to go to sleep and being "jarred" awake in a panic fear. And I became afraid of trying to sleep as well as afraid of leaving the house, answering the phone, etc.

This is a mental disorder, both an emotional and physiological malfunction.


Sorry Ludi, but in my case (at least for a time) it was harassment designed to appear like I had an ailment or a 'condition'. I was made to know it was no mistake. And, like I say, when I was able to get out of my apartment and sleep elsewhere I was fine. Let's just say I've had many different .. 'demonstrations' of the many tricks and non-lethal weapons now out there, and which have been in development for decades in the US.

Read the 'hidden evil' link. I've no doubt most of what Rich says is true. I'll just leave it at that.

I've got nothing more to say on this or 'sell' at this point. Take it or leave it.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 17:06:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'y')ou are obviously sincere, eric, and I've spent some time before looking into this strange story. But there are so many weird stories going around these days. One of the most bizarre ones to me is the cattle mutilation story. Or how about the story of how the CIA was funding an effort to recruit, 'train' and utilize "remote viewers?" There is also the story about how police have supposedly used "psychics" to solve cases. And "Bigfoot" and "Alien Abductions" & "crop circles" and "reverse engineering UFO technology at Area 51" "mind control in the Columbine shootings" etc. etc. etc. There is so much bizarreness going around that we're all swimming in it and it gets to the point where the mind just says "enough! I can't take any more!" Sorry about your predicament, I don't know which would be worse, if it was true or if you just believed it to be true.


No hard feeling PMS, I completely understand your POV. I think the strangeness of the phenomenon gives it the perfect cover. It's genius really, and it amounts to very clever way of dealing with and removing 'problem' individuals and/or social control. Coming to take you away in the middle of the night, or just outright killing someone, attracts too much attention. These new technologies amount to a much more subtle and slick form of control. Understand this - the elite are after you mind, as the person being interviewed in Dukey's opener stated. Everything follows if you can control the context of what is and what is not acceptable to even consider and think about. Self-censorship is the ultimate form of 'control'.

Anyone here ever read 'The Tripods' by John CHristopher? It's a great Sci-Fi trilogy geared for children. A race of aliens have taken over the Earth. All Children upon reaching the age of 14 are 'capped' - they are taken away for a day in the tripods and have a metal cap (haha) permanently attached to their head which removes all their curiosity and drive. This is used by the aliens to almost completely control the population, like cattle. Also, I believe during the initial invasion the aliens used the airwaves - TV and radio - to essentially hypnotise most of the population and make the initial invasion much easier.

At this point I'm not certain if we've got life imitating art, or if Samuel Youd (Christopher was his pen name) knew something of the early research into these technologies.

That said I'm taking off my foil cap and leaving this thread. I tried to warn y'all.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby dinopello » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 17:31:57

There was an article in the Washington Post not too long ago about the mind control/influencing of TI's (Targeted Individuals).

Here it is...

also a discussion was held by the author

Here that is...
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby Bas » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 17:33:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'E')ric, what you're describing are the symptoms of anxiety disorder. I know because I had exactly the same symptoms of attempting to go to sleep and being "jarred" awake in a panic fear. And I became afraid of trying to sleep

I had that too. It took a long time to find a way to beat it. For me melatonin 30 minutes before bed and strong kava tea when I get antsy during the day work wonders. No pharmaceuticals necessary anymore. In fact I rarely need the kava, either, now that I'm getting good sleep. That sleep thing is horrible, it really is torture when it's chronic.

Eric, it's hard to swallow what you're saying unless you explain how you were told it was deliberate. I am curious.


I've had problems like that, sometimes still do when under stress/when extremely tired, and it can be hell, that's for sure.

but mind control technology seems like ET/SF stuff to me, the brain is far to complicated for that. Above that, the brain has a well known capacity to fool itself, which we have all experienced at one time or another.

indirect (as in not directly beamed into your head) psychic/psychological harassment is as old as civilization though...
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 17:59:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'T')here was an article in the Washington Post not too long ago about the mind control/influencing of TI's (Targeted Individuals).

Here it is...

also a discussion was held by the author

Here that is...
interesting articles. I did read up on this a couple years ago. what do you think, dino, another example of popular mass delusions of which there have been so many down through the years, or nefarious psy ops? it's too bizarre for me to give any credence to the latter. interesting thing about popular mass delusions is that they are so fervently believed. and they take many forms. I talked with a teacher once who believes that humans were bioengineered by an alien race that lives on the planet Nibiru that only comes around every few hundred years. This same guy believes that he can "remote view" and have "out of body experiences" at will.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby dinopello » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 18:51:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'i')nteresting articles. I did read up on this a couple years ago. what do you think, dino, another example of popular mass delusions of which there have been so many down through the years, or nefarious psy ops? it's too bizarre for me to give any credence to the latter. interesting thing about popular mass delusions is that they are so fervently believed. and they take many forms. I talked with a teacher once who believes that humans were bioengineered by an alien race that lives on the planet Nibiru that only comes around every few hundred years. This same guy believes that he can "remote view" and have "out of body experiences" at will.


I agree it seems too bizarre. Although on many things involving things like how human consciousness interacts with the universe usually I reserve judgment. I know someone who (almost?) believes things like remote viewing and she is also into spiritual things like crystals and reiki healing. It doesn't seem to keep her from being a great person so who am I to judge if it seems far fetched?

The closest thing I have experienced from time to time is fairly strong sense of deja-vu. I think I'm more likely to believe something that is due to some natural mystery of the universe than something that relies on a belief in an uber-conspiracy of elites in government or anywhere else.

If some belief (whether real or not) is affecting your health (such as sleep etc) then you ought to do something about it IMO - and if you are a friend to a such a person, you should help them out. I know that can be a challenge having dealt with older people with dementia.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby dukey » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 22:23:29

Mr Russo's first name is Aaron ;p

And on the topic of mind control. Have a watch of this .. really it is worth watching.

[flash width=400 height=326]http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7398714418354815608&hl=en[/flash]
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby eric_b » Wed 31 Jan 2007, 22:43:34

I've been a complete foron today. Eric Larsen feels that the conditioning we're all bombarded with is a large part of the reason for the extreme decay in the US today.

I discovered this site after gorging on the latest round of articles at ICH, in the comments section. From:

http://www.ericlarsen.net/foodforthought2.1.2007.html

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')We have to keep in mind this quote from Thomas Hardy: "If a path to the better there be, it begins with a full look at the worst." That "worst" may be just exactly what Gatto is chronicling for us, that long-ago early part of the twentieth century when rich white men began a great human experiment to keep large masses of humans controlled, evolving to you and me today. In the beginning, when Henry Ford began his assembly line, he couldn't keep the workers he employed any longer than a couple of weeks. These were people from the land, operating on nature's time, not clock time. Even when he doubled their wages, it didn't help. They still quit. (For a great essay on this very subject, by Matthew B. Crawford, look here —EL.) What are called "Human Resources" today (that'd be us), Ford recognized, needed to be mentally conditioned to accept their slavery as machines, animated robots, for his business empire. It's been a long process and quite successful. The fact that this has been going on under the radar for nearly a century reminds me of the concept of "plausible deniability." I personally think that limited thinking is what's our real enemy today. And so we've got to imagine that the worst in everything may be our reality, unless proven otherwise.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby eric_b » Thu 01 Feb 2007, 00:13:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', '
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Eric, it's hard to swallow what you're saying unless you explain how you were told it was deliberate. I am curious.


Fair enough. Phew. Very difficult to explain. If you read 'The Hidden Evil' you'll see there are some sections where he talks about NLP (Neuro linguistic programming) and sensitivity 'campaigns'. Well, my sensitivity campaigns had to do with clicks. Two clicks. Tick-tock. That's the code.

Some sort of harassment device was/is installed in my refrigerator - across two apartments at that. Basically they can make clicking noises come from somewhere deep within the refrigerator. This has been going on for years now. The conditioning began when I started to notice these clicks coming from the fridge everytime it started or stopped - there'd be an additional two clicks heard from the fridge. It's their way of letting me know they're 'in the house'. I've been so thoroughly conditioned at this point my ears perk up everytime the fridge starts or stops, listening for the extra two clicks added on to normal 'pop' noise it makes when it starts and stops.

It's genius really - what's the only large appliance that never gets turned off? That's right, the old fridge. In my case it's been turned into some sort of surveillance and harassment device. Now there are periods, sometimes months long, when the fridge behaves as a normal refrigerator should, going about its business of keeping the perishables chilled without making weird noises beyond the hum of the fan and some occasional quiet gurgling noises. But during the intense harassment campaigns they'll always add an additional two clicks to the normal pop the fridge the fridge makes when it starts and stops.

But there's more, I'm just getting started here. I told you this was difficult to explain. They can click it and pop it at will. Sometimes so soft you can barely hear it, other times so loud you'd think it's about to explode and the neighbors will complain, thinking I'm doing it. They use it to taunt me and let me know I'm under surveillance. For example, evertime I go to use the bathroom.. yeah, two clicks are heard from the fridge. Everytime I try to toss off... yeah more clicks and pops from the fridge. These goons are unbelievable and they clearly relish their job. During intense harassment campaigns, which mercifully do not last for more than a few days at a time, the fridge'l be bugging. At times it'll be the fridge that keeps me awake - just as soon as I start to nod of, a loud BANG, or pop will be heard from the fridge (these apartments I'm in are so small I'm never out of earshot from the fridge). It seems these people know when I have important things to do the next day, and that's when they pile on the punishment so I'll be a wreck the next day. For example, this last xmas, one of the few times I see my family, I went through two nights where somehow these banging and tapping noises were 'injected' into my apartment and I didn't get a wink of sleep. I've talked to all my neighbors and I don't think they were doing it.

OK, so during periods when I was being subjected to the sleep deprivation 'treatment' it would often go like this. After FINALLY falling asleep - I mean as soon as I'd nod off - something would wake me up. I'd lay in bed in my quiet apartment and after a moment or two I'd hear the code - two quiet taps from the otherwise quiet fridge. Just to let me know "yeah, we're f*cking with you buddy". And this really roils you after a while. Cuz you know they're waiting for you to try to fall back asleep so they can wake you again. ANd you can't do anything about it. It's a game to them. Or perhaps I'd fall asleep and immediately I'd enter REM sleep (something that happens when you are severely sleep deprived) and BAM, something that feels like a surge of electricity would course through my body and wake me up. I'd lay in the bed in an impotent rage and then there'd be one quiet click heard from the fridge... I'd wait for the next tap... nothing.. and then I'd hear the second 'click' coming from somewhere in my sinuses (they can make these noises come from my sinuses too - implant? I dunno). This would go on and on. You people have no idea how brutal this torture is. I'd try everything to get rest. I'd sleep on the floor, in the bathroom, in the kitchen.. nothing really helped expect leaving the apartment. Where am I going to go, I'm almost indigent as it is? So I haul my dog tired ass off and go pitch my tent in a city park or vacant lot and collapse there and sleep like the dead. Or I'd walk over to a friends house and beg them to let me sleep at their place. Whatever. I came to see how important sleep is, and without you just cannot function. Brutal beyond words.

And try explaining this to someone without sounding loco. Good luck. I gave up trying to explain this to people. That's how these harassment skits and plans have been designed - to discredit you and make you appear crazy.

One thing that did give me some relief was unplugging the fridge. They could still tap it, but the taps were much softer, barely audible. However they can still 'inject' these noises into my apartment, just not as effectively as when they hit the fridge. Of course it's quite a privation to live without a fridge - I've got first hand experience with that too. I purchased a cooler and would throw perishables onto ice, but this is not nearly as convenient as having a fridge.

And this entire long winded description just barely touches on the other bizarre things I've had to put up with <shakes head>. I could write a small book on this stuff. {EDIT: another example - as soon as I wake up in the morning, or go to look at myself in the mirror, I'll hear the two clicks from my sinuses - again not all the time but often. Similar to Liza Parker's story }

All the e-harassment is apparently done remotely. Just like the internet.. reach out and touch someone. I've been made to know that 'they' are utterly aware of my actions in the apartment - how I do not know. Why, I do not know. It's all a game to these people. A sport. And I'm the target.

There was one time I got my 'handler' pissed off. I walked up to the fridge and started asking him 'Man, you really like your job don't you...' Tried to get under his (her?) skin. And it worked. After that I was subjected to about half an hour of continuous click, pops and bangs from the fridge.. until I was forced to unplug it and throw out all the food <sigh>.

Basically, if it wasn't for my parents help getting me on SSDI (for autism) these people would have won and I'd be dead or living on the street at this point. I lost a few jobs because of this harassment. Now it's more of a nuisance, but at least I can laugh about it sometimes. And like I say, there are periods when I'm left alone entirely.

These people - the elites and their minions.. they're complete psychopaths. They have no heart. They really do consider the average man 'sheep' to be used like cattle. This stuff is real. Look at some of the links I provided. These people aren't lying and they aint crazy.

Eleanor White listed some of these 'harassment technologies' in an email during an email exchange:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Today's harassment equipment:

- Can penetrate excellent EM and acoustic shielding
as if the shielding were not there
- Can directly manipulate both breathing and vocal
cords to generate involuntary speech, often used
to keep the target awake
- Can "inject" conventional sound or radio signals so
they appear to emanate from any point in space.
Often, this is used to make appliances appear to
"talk" or all outlets appear to be "sending radio
frequency signals". This is decoying, as the
perpetrators have demonstrated this "injection"
can also be done from any point in thin air, or a
windowless side of a building.
- Can move objects, from tiny gas bubbles in the
victim's respiratory tract, through yanking legs out
from under the victim, all the way up to shoving a
moving car sideways. Violent yanking of victims'
limbs and forcing the victim's jaw to clack up and
down are favourite ways to keep a victim awake.
Victims report both sexual fondling and actual blows
as if by fist from invisible sources, with real bruises.
- Can make objects disappear then reappear in
another location, and the reappearance location
can be a moving vehicle
- Can strike heavy blows to any object, or set any
object including the body into strong vibration,
while nearby objects are not vibrating at all. I had
instances where my bed frame was slammed
extremely hard - as if by an invisible mallet, and this
would sometimes knock me half on to the floor.
Verified by seismograph and vibration switches -
not imaginary!
- Can wrench house/building structure causing loud
snapping or crackling noises, often done at precisely
the point where a victim is starting to doze off to sleep
- Can "inject air from nowhere" inside the upper lip
when the lips are firmly closed, and the tongue and
cheeks are blocking air from the lungs - this injection
is used to keep the target awake as it results in a
loud noise like flatulence.
- Can apply thousands of pounds tension to metal stock
or welds in excellent condition, causing breakage, yet
no tool marks are left on the (soft) finish
- Inexplicable (from conventional technology standpoint)
"lights" on and close to victims, especially with people
from the MKULTRA-era survivor community. Some
are seen by nearby witnesses (like two cases of
brightly glowing hands) or show on photos. Burns on
the victim sometimes show afterwards.
(http://www.raven1.net/bcanomal.htm)
- A small number of full levitation cases, at least one
witnessed (I, Eleanor White had a brief series of
levitation incidents in my apartment, not witnessed.)

The 4 layer shielded enclosure mentioned above was also
extremely sound-deadening as the inner layer was semi-
conductive foam. Any sound would have to get thru my
8 inch concrete walls/floor/ceiling then through the 4
layer enclosure, and sound would also be very noticeable
to neighbours.
(...)


I can vouch for at least half the stuff in the list - I've experienced it first hand. Well, I'm tired, but I hope I've been able to make my point here.
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Re: The Elite Want To Microchip You

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Thu 01 Feb 2007, 01:08:09

OMG! dude get a new fridge.... NLP involves hypnosis so unless you have been abducted and hypnotized or conditioned you can't be "under the influence of NLP".
Its a form of brain washing and usually has to involve some willingness on your part... Its still really invalid scientifically... see someone... really... maybe an appliance repairman.
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