by kerosene » Thu 02 Jun 2005, 03:53:48
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Starvid', 'T')he US is a hundred times more free than Sweden. During the latest 100 years, one party has been in power for 88 years - the Social Democrats. Hopefully we will throw them out in the 2006 election.
HAH! Because people vote for them. How many parties do you have in your political system? Do the important party memebers have to answer in public if they lie in major issues? Is there open critique going on?
I would not vote for social democrat, but if people want that then they they choose it. And in Sweden's case I can guarantee you that that choise is far more likely to be based on what the politicians really represent. Here it is one on one scripted soap opera concentrating on totally secondary issues.
Have swedish government tried to push a law that basically says that pain less than equivalent of losing an organ or death is not torture?
Can people be arrested for any period time without charges and without notifying anyone?
Is all levels of education free in sweden? Eh - not really because you get paid when you are in university or college.
I do not know if you were being sarcastic or not but high taxes doesn't necessarily mean you have less freedom.
Sorry for sidetrack.
getting back to the track. Yeah in Europe the whole issue of citizen information is very different. Everyone is on record and nobody seems to care. You cannot invent social security number - identity theft is practically impossible - anyways compared to us. People - like me - have really hard time understanding the whole fear of being in the registry.
You can't do anything (study, drive car, travel, get pension, work, get medical services - emergency excluded etc.) without existing paperwork or status. I think the big difference here is
a) you get a lot from the public part, its not only a pain in the ass (think when do you need your driver's license - usually not fun).
b) the system is somewhat secure for citicens - the identity tfeft is practically impossible compared to usa.
And of course current moves towards the draft and other us actions are kind of scary - this makes me very well understand why an american would not like to have a line in the list.
Heikki