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THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Fri 06 Jun 2025, 10:56:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('careinke', 'A')ustralia bought 3,900 Tesla's this quarter, up around 9.8% over last quarter. Even Australians should be able to figure this one out.

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"Australians" in general, sure. But we aren't dealing with a normal Australian, but more the equivalent of an American high school drop out who still uses fingers and toes to count with.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Fri 06 Jun 2025, 16:12:27

The gross waste of resources that went down the EV rabbit hole is ending thank God, but alas the gross waste maintaining the shitCoin network continues apace. Bitcoin average energy consumption per transaction is equal to that consumed by hundreds of thousands of Visa transactions and nearly all BC ones are non-productive. Just token shuffling between hoarders. It's a crime against humanity really.

Annualized Total Bitcoin Footprints
98.10 Mt CO2
175.87 TWh electricity
20.69 kt electronic waste
2,772 GL Fresh Water Consumption
The water consumed in a single BC transaction is 19,542 liters. Enough to fill a backyard pool.

No one can justify this waste of the planet's scarse resources so they don't even try.
They simply ignore it. They are sick sick people, enemies of humanity if you like :evil:

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https://www.statista.com/statistics/881 ... ison-visa/
https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby careinke » Fri 06 Jun 2025, 22:34:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'T')he gross waste of resources that went down the EV rabbit hole is ending thank God, but alas the gross waste maintaining the shitCoin network continues apace. Bitcoin average energy consumption per transaction is equal to that consumed by hundreds of thousands of Visa transactions and nearly all BC ones are non-productive. Just token shuffling between hoarders. It's a crime against humanity really.

Annualized Total Bitcoin Footprints
98.10 Mt CO2
175.87 TWh electricity
20.69 kt electronic waste
2,772 GL Fresh Water Consumption
The water consumed in a single BC transaction is 19,542 liters. Enough to fill a backyard pool.

No one can justify this waste of the planet's scarse resources so they don't even try.
They simply ignore it. They are sick sick people, enemies of humanity if you like :evil:

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https://www.statista.com/statistics/881 ... ison-visa/
https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption


Christmas lights use more energy than BTC. There is no shortage of energy, I'll give you a hint look up at noon, see that bright shiny object in the sky?

If you REALLY care about energy consumption, check out AI. It's not going away either.

Your thinking is completely backwards, the problem is NOT energy consumption, nor energy availability, the problem is energy production. Don't worry, a lot of really smart people have already figured that out and have viable solutions being built right now.

I know, I'm invested in them and making money pretty much everyday, with a few buying opportunities on the days I don't.

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 07 Jun 2025, 15:28:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '2')7 Mar 2025 — Semiconductor Intelligence (SC-IQ) estimates semiconductor capital expenditures (CapEx) in 2024 were $155 billion, down 5% from $164 billion in 2023.

Capital expenditure refers to the funds a company uses to purchase, maintain, or upgrade its physical assets, such as property, buildings, or equipment.

$155 Billion Globally last year. Impressive figure, it's one of the places major spending has been directed over the last decade or so. It's mobile, computers, A.I. stuff, missiles and car chips, all of it. It's huge, but not really.

Now when we consider the future of EV, consider this.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')ebuilding all roads in the US could cost around $36 trillion. This estimate doesn't include the cost of substantial bridges, tunnels, or the land the roads currently occupy. A more immediate need, addressing the backlog of roads in poor condition, is estimated to cost $376.4 billion.

So double the cost of the foundation of tech just to bring the road network up to scratch. It's no surprise these roads have fallen into disrepair, there is no profit in rebuilding them and the national piggy-bank is empty. So what use are modern cars without modern roads? Even if you went full MadMax 4x4 as your car you still need semi-trailers delivering all the food and Chinese junk. What about them? Roads are the foundation of a nation's fortunes, always have been, always will be.

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This is just laughable, American's love to brag about their Apollo conquests but that was the 1960's, it's former glories. When the British and French developed the Concord both the Russians and the Americans tried but the Russian copy was a flop and the US one never got off the drawing board. There were lots of reasons cited as to why they abandoned it but the simple fact is they had lost the innovative edge. Concord was very profitable in it's niche, and it was worth building simply for the sake of prestige too.

Smoke and mirrors is all the Trump bill is, the same as the AI/Robot industry now flourishing but none of it comes even close to the simple achievement of covering a nation in a network of reliable smooth roads. Give it another 30 years (or less) and the roads in the US will look like those of a poor African nation. All this twaddle about tech is just a puppet show to distract people from the simple fact that their national fortunes are in decline. In the 1980's I watched a techy show about dental innovations, Synthetic Sapphire teeth held in place by Titanium implants. That was quite believable and they exist today, but not at a price the average person can afford. Robots making your morning coffee? Don't hold your breath.

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500 SciFi movies and TV series later and "Everyone" thinks it's on the way.
Simple minded people believing whatever they are fed on the TV set

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Sat 07 Jun 2025, 18:08:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '2')7 Mar 2025 — Semiconductor Intelligence (SC-IQ) estimates semiconductor capital expenditures (CapEx) in 2024 were $155 billion, down 5% from $164 billion in 2023.

Capital expenditure refers to the funds a company uses to purchase, maintain, or upgrade its physical assets, such as property, buildings, or equipment.


So now you are parroting a dictionary, because we KNOW that you haven't been allowed to touch someone else's capital in your lifetime and wouldn't know what it was without said dictionary.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 07 Jun 2025, 21:05:55

EV Interest Hits 5-Year Low as Hybrids Surge

That means interest in buying an EV has retraced all the way back to before the big sales boom. How could kub and his lapdog get it so wrong? They assured us, haughtily, that the EV was the future. The lapdog was even talking about his wife buying a Tesla soon. I wonder if that decision is now on hold now too?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Recent data indicates a significant shift in American car buyer preferences, with interest in purchasing electric vehicles (EVs) waning to levels not seen since 2019. This represents a notable departure from the previously observed upward trend in EV consideration among U.S. consumers. The AAA survey 2025 highlights this change...

According to the AAA survey 2025, only 16% of Americans aged 18 and over expressed that they would “likely” or “very likely” consider an EV as their next vehicle. This figure is a considerable drop from the 25% recorded in a similar AAA survey just two years prior...

Several factors contribute to this decline in EV interest. High sticker prices... Concerns about charging infrastructure, range anxiety (particularly in colder climates), and the potential cost of battery replacement also play crucial roles. Furthermore, shifts in the public narrative surrounding EVs, potentially influenced by governmental policies, may also be impacting consumer perceptions.
https://evcube.net/ev-interest-hits-5-y ... ids-surge/

Several factors contribute to this decline in EV interest
And you can sum them all up in one word, "Reality" Stupid thing is reality was always there, for all to see. All the Evidiots had to do was open their dull cow eyes and look around :lol:

Dear oh Dear, how dumb are the unwashed masses. It's little different to lining up at the catholic church in the 1600's and giving your tithes to the priest so he can have a sumptuous dinner before taking his lust out on an alter boy. Modern scientific man claims they have escaped the servitude of religion but they are in servitude to the religion of the fake science they worship. We defiantly need a global war to cull some of these useless eaters.


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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Sat 07 Jun 2025, 21:25:59

Do you remember when I used to come on these threads and post reasons why the EV had no future adam? You used to laugh at me and post stories about increasing sales. Then I came back later and showed that while sales were still increasing, the rate of sales increases was now falling. You didn't understand that metric so you posted stories of diesel powered electric dump trucks. Then I came back and showed that sales were now actually falling and you got angry and started posting pictures of bananas and kangaroos. At that point I put you on the ignore list where all Trolls belong and ever since then you have come back with nothing but personal attacks, but no more stories hey. So without even admitting it you agree with me, that the EV transition is dead and all the people that bought into it now look like idiots for getting ripped off.

Time to retort with some kangaroos hey :lol:
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Sat 07 Jun 2025, 21:39:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]EV Interest Hits 5-Year Low as Hybrids Surge
That means interest in buying an EV has retraced all the way back to before the big sales boom.


<yawn>

First you say something you believe....then you try and substantiate it with cherry picked references.

IEA Report-More than 1 in 4 cars sold worldwide this year is set to be electric as EV sales continue to grow

Learn how to look up both sides of an issue before revealing that even a parrot with the entire internet at their fingertips is really still just a parrot.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Sat 07 Jun 2025, 21:43:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'D')o you remember when I used to come on these threads and post reasons why the EV had no future adam? You used to laugh at me and post stories about increasing sales.


Yes. Laughing at you is normal, because watching a parrot pretend to think is entertaining. And no, I didn't tend to post stories about increasing sales.....Kub did a bunch of that demonstrating that parrots with the internet at their fingertips are still parrots.

But yes, I did just post one. Showing that parrots with the internet at their fingertips are still parrots.

Thank you for proving you still haven't changed, and have been getting your concept of "EV sales go down because I want them to" wrong as long as you've been saying it.

Jesus it is bad enough your countrymen can't make a car, but do you have to CONTINUE besmirching the entire country by being proud of being so damn ignorant?
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 08 Jun 2025, 04:46:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '
')First you say something you believe....then you try and substantiate it with cherry picked references.

IEA Report-More than 1 in 4 cars sold worldwide this year is set to be electric as EV sales continue to grow


Stupid stupid adam. The IEA (International Energy Agency) includes HEVs in its data and analysis on electric vehicles, particularly when discussing sales and market trends.
I have warned you before not to trust quasi governmental bodies but like a dog to it's own vomit you keep going back there. A gasoline hybrid is not an EV, it is an ICE car with a little electric component. What you have in the driveway are EV, can't you tell the difference? You're like a goosestepping German following Joseph Goebbels around from speech to speech.

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A hybrid car is now an EV, it was always an EV in fact, and now you know the truth according to your glorious leader kub.

kublikhan » Wed 17 May 2023, 22:05:45
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')emand for electric cars is booming, with sales expected to leap 35% this year after a record-breaking 2022

kublikhan » Thu 18 May 2023, 11:31:08
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hat's not what Lucky's fortune cookie wisdom tells us. According to him, EVs are suppose to go the way of the Segway. Only fanatical zealots "Believe" in the EV so sales should remain in the toilet. And if facts tell a different story, why it's just fake news from the "Believers".
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kublikhan » Tue 18 Apr 2023, 12:34:08
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') could explain to you how California's high gasoline prices make EVs an even better value than an ICE but what would be the point? You would just ignore everything that conflicts with your alternate reality bubble and then as a self defense mechanism you would put me on 'ignore' again so that evil reality doesn't penetrate your delusional fantasy.


No need to explain now is there kub :lol:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')While California ZEV sales experienced a decline in Q1 2025, EVs (including gas hybrids) were trending upward nationwide in Q1, with an increase of 11.4% year-over-year, according to Kelley Blue Book. The used EV market (which includes HEV) is also trending upward with Carvana reporting an 182% increase in used EV sales in 2024 year-over-year.” And that's from https://cleantechnica.com/2025/05/20/ca ... kyrockets/ an EV fanboi site.

ZEV is "one" of the new names now used for EV's, a rebranding to hide an ugly truth. California is like North Korea when it comes to mandating and subsidizing this crap. It won't last. Kub knows all this, that's why he's left. You need new master adam

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 08 Jun 2025, 04:52:27

Despite significant uncertainties, electric cars’ market share is on course to exceed 40% by 2030
https://www.iea.org/news/more-than-1-in ... ue-to-grow

Lap up the Lies adam

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Sun 08 Jun 2025, 05:22:04

by Plantagenet » Sat 02 Jan 2021, 06:11:42
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ew discovery means solid state batteries for EVs can now eliminate the "spontaneous combustion" problem. A company called "quantumscape" claims to be able to produce safe batteries for EVs....
And their stock price is exploding.

Wow plant, did you buy in @ $100 a share? By July 2021 it was $20. Today it's $4. Plant, just another delusional old fleabag that believed everything he was told on TV. Good riddens my brave little fanboi.

Why are people so stupid with their money? Now the plant's of this world are plowing it into IT and robotics, another scam designed to fleece the flock. PE ratio, a time tested metric to determine a companies value. 16:1 is normal, anything under that is a buy, all else being normal, 45:1 is a bubble, and that's where Nvidia is. In 2016 it was $1 a share but gamers drove it higher and then the AI swindle pushed it over the top. Another pension fund go-to stock no doubt. For the past year it's gone basically nowhere though and has a Div yield of only 0.028%.

Caterpillar has a P/E ratio of 17.22 and pays a Div yield of 1.60%. that's the stock you want to hold for your retirement. Wake up you clowns.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')everal large pension funds have purchased shares of Nvidia, including the Employees Retirement System of Texas (ERST) and CalPERS. ERST bought 84,514 shares, making Nvidia its second-largest holding, according to MarketBeat. CalPERS increased its holdings of Nvidia shares...

Why not, it's not like it's their money they are gambling with.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Sun 08 Jun 2025, 10:37:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AdamB', '
')First you say something you believe....then you try and substantiate it with cherry picked references.

IEA Report-More than 1 in 4 cars sold worldwide this year is set to be electric as EV sales continue to grow


Stupid stupid adam. The IEA (International Energy Agency) includes HEVs in its data and analysis on electric vehicles, particularly when discussing sales and market trends.


Having owned HEVs, it seems completely reasonable to those of us with experience with them....i.e. NOT like uninformed halfwits.

When I drove my HEV as an EV for 6 months to see what it was like....did you even know this was possible? It didn't work as well as the real EVs do, but then it is meant to be less expensive because really the batteries are the main cost of this type of cage.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Sun 08 Jun 2025, 10:39:52

[quote="theluckycountry"]Despite significant uncertainties, electric cars’ market share is on course to exceed 40% by 2030
https://www.iea.org/news/more-than-1-in ... ue-to-grow
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Mon 09 Jun 2025, 06:49:08

EV Interest Hits 5-Year Low as Hybrids Surge
Enough said
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Mon 09 Jun 2025, 08:05:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'E')V Interest Hits 5-Year Low as Hybrids Surge
Enough said


Well, as expected you say things that aren't true, but at least you did it without being your usual mindless parrot self pretending it is true.

As it is obvious is a BIG way you don't like EVs, and can only parrot others who sometimes seem to agree, where does this natural revulsion come from? Did an EV offend you in some way? When your peak oil of certain oils you can't pick from a list didn't come off as planned decades ago, did you blame EVs for it? Was your mother run over by one or something?
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Mon 09 Jun 2025, 17:41:53

Australia:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'E')V sales in Australia drop to lowest level in two years:
The EV industry in Australia has suffered a massive hit, with some experts claiming a recovery might never be possible.

The truth slowly leaks out 8)

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ybrid vehicles have boomed as Australians look for an environmental alternative that also includes the safety net of a combustion engine that allows greater distance range and less time to charge and get going. Plug-in hybrid sales almost doubled in the first three months of 2025 to 13,698
The number of conventional hybrid vehicles sold increased from 42,618 to 46,115 over the same period. Vehicles with traditional petrol engines continued to make up the vast number of sales in Australia for the first quarter of 2025 but did experience a drop.

So conventional hybrids, basically ICE cars with a small suburban electric augment, are three times as popular as the plug-in variants, why? Because most people couldn't be bothered with all the fuss and extra cost of charging. It's a lifestyle choice more than anything I suspect. I certainly wouldn't want to have to install a dedicated charger and ration charging times to when the sun is shining. Nor have the worry of losing my house to a battery fire. The diehard EV fanboi will be the ones buying the plugins. A sort of faux EV with the peace of mind of having a gasoline engine under the bonnet. They are a waste of money of course and their resale value will be little better than that of a true BEV.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')EVs are flooding into Australia from China but less people are buying them in 2025.
Despite the drop in EV sales, the industry is confident transactions will recover.

Well what the hell else are going to say :lol:

https://www.news.com.au/technology/moto ... b22a1aa5c7

And at the Hi end of the market:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')SX-listed Autosports Group, which owns about 40 showrooms and dealerships in New South Wales, Victoria and Queensland, is among the companies under pressure as the high-end electric vehicle market slows in Australia. New research published by Moelis analyst Sarah Mann finds that an oversupply of EVs is inflicting substantial losses on dealers “requiring significant discounting to clear”.
https://www.afr.com/companies/transport ... 125-p5kt8d

Get them out the door, and don't order anymore.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Mon 09 Jun 2025, 17:49:00

‘Very worrying’: Hidden insurance clause may not cover EV home chargers

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you've got an EV home charger installed, you'd better go check the fine print on your home insurance, as Drive has found there's no guarantee you're covered even if it was put in by a sparky. Posting on a Facebook group for EV owners, one person said they had been told by the Royal Automobile Club of Queensland (RACQ) that they were only covered for using the three-pin ‘trickle’ charger at home and not the unit they’d just had installed.

“RACQ has just advised me that they will not cover our house and contents for renewal unless we only use the BYD-supplied ‘granny’ charger,” they said. “They won’t cover our professionally installed 32amp 7kW fast charger unless we get BYD to certify that the charger is safe to use for our Seal, which, of course, BYD won’t do without massive personal costs involved.
https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/very ... -chargers/

:shock: Oh you poor EVidiot, you didn't see that coming did you. Just one more downside to add to the long long list.


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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby AdamB » Mon 09 Jun 2025, 18:38:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]‘Very worrying’: Hidden insurance clause may not cover EV home chargers
https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/very ... -chargers/

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Postby theluckycountry » Tue 10 Jun 2025, 21:30:54

sell those leafs adam before they charge you to take them away. That will be next you know, a fee to dispose of the toxic battery waste.
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')electric vehicle (EV) batteries, which can contain toxic materials, are often subject to fees or incentives related to their disposal and recycling. These fees are designed to cover the costs of responsible end-of-life management, which includes environmentally safe disposal and the recovery of valuable materials for reuse
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