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THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 24 May 2025, 16:31:06

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I think you should go on Zoloft adam, it would mellow you out, take the edge of life you know. You're a very angry old boomer and you have no reason to be. You own your own home, have at least 2 cars, a wife, you're not alone in life. Where the anger comes from I have no idea but Zoloft will help I assure you. If not for yourself do it for those around you.

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Sun 25 May 2025, 10:45:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')I think you should go on Zoloft adam, it would mellow you out, take the edge of life you know.


For starters, the one thing you really have no ability to do is "think", as I've explained before. You believe. You then cherry pick references (from others) and then present them as evidence. You do this without even attempting the to find obvious counterpoints first, to see how ignorant your belief is to begin with. Which is your tell. You just can't help yourself, you can't even think around your own strawmn. You can only believe. You can't imagine any of the counter points, it is beyond you. So others happily do it for you and demonstrate they can think, and you are a parrot.

You just OOZE this Unlucky.

And second, I have mellowed out. I have learned with time...and encounters with countless posters like you. Mindless repetition of some favorite angle...no ability to argue or fight back, just....repetition. Easy to identify, boring as all hell, can't think their way out of a wet paper bag.

I'll take Planet any day of the week, she has a mind, she gets her points in, she is irritating at times and that is a good thing, particularly when I find it difficult to manuever around her. That is proof of a functioning mind.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '
')You're a very angry old boomer and you have no reason to be. You own your own home, have at least 2 cars, a wife, you're not alone in life. Where the anger comes from I have no idea but Zoloft will help I assure you. If not for yourself do it for those around you.


As usual, you speak of things someone else has told you because you can't figure out squat for yourself. Go back to high school and finish it, it's a start.

I'm not angry because anger has no part of science, analytics, being with my wife and family, it is just wasted energy. I have 5 cars, and I am married, and I've got kids and I love them all. Except the cars, they are just tools, like firearms your country knows better than to trust the likes of you with.

I do some high blood pressure medication, and lately some anti-biotics for an intestinal infection, but nothing mood altering in my life. No cigarettes, no weed, I don't drink, motorcycles and racetracks to create adrenaline works just fine.

No anger. But I do have a life long adversion to boredom.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 27 May 2025, 10:32:00

After BYD Price War Accelerated, Goldman Says: "We Are Sellers Here"

Now this is Big news.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he EV space took a hit overnight after China's BYD—Tesla's top rival—announced sweeping price cuts of up to 34% across nearly two dozen models. This intensified an already brutal global multi-year price war amid continued softening demand.

Bloomberg reported that BYD slashed prices on 22 of its electric and plug-in hybrid models by as much as 34% in an effort to revive demand... Goldman analyst Shubham Ghosh told clients, "We were sellers of BYD here and also caught some selling in SOE banks."
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/after ... llers-here

So bad luck Tesla, but the key takeaway is ongoing "softening demand". Demand as in "People don't want that shit no more. As I said a year and more back, PeakEV had been reached and it was all downhill from there. Sure there are idiots, EVidiots, who will backup again in 4 years to upgrade before their current ride becomes worthless but a vast number of early adopters have found the EV experience left a bad taste in their mouth. Then of course are all the sane people who simply dismissed the idea after a little serious investigation.

How low can the Chinese go? A lot lower than many would suspect, because I suspect they are not chasing market share with this, but just flushing unwanted inventory out the door. The last time I saw this was the death of the dedicated MP3 player. Oh they still make them BTW, but sales are basically relegated to eBay because everyone uses their phone now. Same with the EV, why be limited to an electric car when you can have electric and gasoline propulsion.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 27 May 2025, 12:43:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', ' ') As I said a year and more back, PeakEV had been reached and it was all downhill from there.


As you said...you said stuff....and as usual, you can't do research for shit. Don't you have a 4 year old nephew or someone you can engage in this battle of wits with and at least have a chance of winning?

More than 1 in 4 cars sold worldwide this year is set to be electric as EV sales continue to grow: News:14 May 2025

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('luckycountry', '
')Sure there are idiots,


YES! WE KNOW! YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP PROVING IT NEARLY EVERY TIME YOU POST!!!!
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 27 May 2025, 18:26:54

you're the quintessential Biden voter adam, you'd believe anything as long a US government department puts its stamp on it. I have already explained here numerous times that a gasoline burning hybrid car is not an electric car. What else did Biden tell you? That the US would have tens of thousands of new chargers by now, the inflation reduction act :lol:

Bidenites like you believe men are women, illegal immigrants are peaceful refugees and that whatever the establishment defines as EV is EV. But some of us have a Brain, we think for ourselves and we aren't misled by your government propaganda. Your article is worthy of a *kub* award as well, "More than 1 in 4 cars sold worldwide this year is set to be electric. The same crystal ball crap I have been calling out on these threads for years.

According to adam the caterpillar 793 electric dump truck was proof of a transition in mining but I quickly showed it had a massive diesel engine that drove an AC gen-set to power its wheels. Every time you post you fall flat on your face.

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Here's the truth adam wants to run from.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Hybrid vehicles, blending internal combustion engines with electric motors, are surging in popularity as consumers seek fuel efficiency and lower emissions without the range anxiety of fully electric vehicles (EVs).
The U.S. Hybrid Market: Record Growth
In the United States, hybrids are gaining traction as a practical bridge between traditional internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles and EVs. In 2023, HEV sales soared 53% from 2022, reaching nearly 1.2 million units
https://energynewsbeat.co/the-hybrid-ve ... facturers/

So while the EV goes the way of the dodo gasoline burners with little battery packs are taking over it's place. But of course they are only a small fraction of overall sales, gasoline and diesel vehicles leading as always. another good article on hybrids https://www.researchnester.com/reports/ ... arket/4772
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 27 May 2025, 18:44:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'y')ou're the quintessential Biden voter adam,......

Says who? You who don't know the difference between sales of something going up, as opposed to down, and now you want to pretend to know how a registered independent like myself votes from election to election?

Again, there is no requirement for you to be a fool. You say what you hope and dream to be true, and then pretend because you said it, it must be.

Think. Find a 4th grader to help you out. Learn from them. There is no requirement, even in a land of folks who can't build cars or have the cajones to throw off a King, that individuals are required to be as ignorant as you keep proudly demonstrating.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 27 May 2025, 19:13:03

You know the trouble with you adam? You live in a fantasy world. I have seen it time and time again with boomers, they're always looking back to the glory days and always disgruntled by the way the world now is. They rail about the rich bastards taking it all and about political corruption, always saying "they should do this" "they should do that". They can't see the freight train coming their way because they refuse to accept the world has changed from what it "should be".

It's obvious Tesla shares will collapse one day soon, I mean a real collapse. And all those people that believed in musk and the future and all the rest of the tripe surrounding the company will lose out financially. The only thing propping it up still is the pension funds. It's like bitcoin, it has a momentum and a cult following but neither will save it, it's not Ford, it doesn't offer value and quality. Ford will go out the back door too but much more slowly, people will still be buying cars in 10 years, just very few EV. Tesla went all-in the full transition and that's a dead horse now. Perhaps if they offered a hybrid? But that would kill the brand.

You're biggest problem is you're living in England in 1929, the empire you have enjoyed is collapsing under the weight of its debts and military overstretch. But you can't see this either can you boomer? "No, we're still fine, they should just do this and they should just do that..." :roll:
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Tue 27 May 2025, 22:12:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'Y')ou know the trouble with you adam? You live in a fantasy world.


<yawn>

Oh, I'm sorry, were you just saying stupid Aussie stuff again? I've explained the ins and outs and why of my EVs. You, unable to read and remember, just make things up because...you can't read English very well? Trow a nudder shrimp ons da Barbie!

A child can pick their conventional food off a list. And you can't for a NANOSECOND do it with your oils.

Go finish high school, maybe they'll teach you how to order off a menu like an 8 year old. Sorry to hear your old job is now done by a machine. Maybe you can learn knitting and make swastika sweaters for your boyfriends?

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 28 May 2025, 03:04:40

Remember the Electric dump truck you told me about adam, the Cat 794 AC, you tried to prove the point EV was moving into mining in a big way. It had a 100% electric drive train. The only trouble was it was powered by a C175-16 (3500 HP) diesel engine. I knew that as soon as I saw the Huge radiator on the front. But unlike you I did a little research and discovered the truth. Just one in a long list of adam fails.

But I shouldn't expect much from you, given even your president's are retards :oops:


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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 28 May 2025, 03:08:12

No one special, just a rank and file American.

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby AdamB » Wed 28 May 2025, 18:08:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'R')emember the Electric dump truck you told me about adam, the Cat 794 AC, you tried to prove the point EV was moving into mining in a big way.

Don't know about "big way", but there are references even a cretin can find on the use of hybrid powertrains and electric drivetrains combined with overhead wires and other forms of electric use to mine. Yes.

I also know that it is unlikely I ever said "in a big way".

You are predictable, and almost always characterize when others did not. Because you believe stuff, but you don't know anything, you don't know nuance and sublety and you are generally ignorant on your own, so you then project forcefully in an attempt to pretend what you think is valid.

It isn't. Because you don't.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 29 May 2025, 19:05:52

Yeah you got some real perverts over there adam :lol:

Back to business.

"Race To The Bottom": BYD Price Slashing To Prompt Chinese EV Consolidation
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')BYD’s aggressive discount campaign is shaking up China’s EV market, pushing rivals to slash prices and raising concerns of an industry-wide “race to the bottom,” according to Nikkei Asia. Since January, BYD has launched repeated limited-time offers. Its latest, running through June, cuts prices by up to 34% across 22 EV and hybrid models, with its Seagull now starting at just $7,700.

No profits there :P
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')reat Wall Motor chairman Wei Jianjun hinted at growing debt in the industry, saying, “The Evergrande of the automotive industry already exists; it just hasn't collapsed yet.” Many believe he was referring to BYD, whose debt ratio stood at 70.7% in March. BYD’s Li Yunfei appeared to hit back with a cryptic social media post: “A dog can bite a person! But a person cannot bite a dog!”

The Chinese love there mumboJumbo
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ikkei writes that other carmakers quickly followed BYD’s lead. Geely’s Galaxy brand launched deals with discounts up to 20,000 yuan, while Changan and Leapmotor also cut prices. Rising inventories are partly to blame—China had 3.5 million unsold vehicles in April, a 57-day supply, the highest since late 2023. BYD alone reported 154.4 billion yuan in inventory, up 33% from the previous quarter.

So billions in debt, rising inventories and trade mauled by US tariffs. Oh and guess what! China is the only real player left in this game, the rest have been running on fumes for over a year and are desperately scaling back and bailing out or going bankrupt. But don't worry, kub assures us the EV is the future of personal transport and his lapdog backs him up.

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https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automo ... 3&si=79447
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/race- ... solidation
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 29 May 2025, 19:48:25

Walmart To Open 45 Gas Stations, In Bid To Compete With Costco

And they'll do it no doubt because this isn't about building EV chargers :lol:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')almart is expanding into the fuel business, planning to open over 45 gas stations across the U.S. this year—a move that could intensify competition with Costco and other warehouse clubs. “As EVs remain a long-term play, gas is still king,” said Joe Camberato, CEO of NationalBusinessCapital.com.
https://www.mensjournal.com/news/walmar ... ith-costco

That's 25 stations, not pumps. just one player.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '[')b]Walmart To Open 45 Gas Stations, In Bid To Compete With Costco
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')almart is expanding into the fuel business, planning to open over 45 gas stations across the U.S. this year—a move that could intensify competition with Costco and other warehouse clubs. “As EVs remain a long-term play, gas is still king,” said Joe Camberato, CEO of NationalBusinessCapital.com.
https://www.mensjournal.com/news/walmar ... ith-costco

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 29 May 2025, 21:23:51

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 05 Jun 2025, 15:30:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n Tuesday, the Morning Midas—a roll-on/roll-off (RoRo) vehicle carrier—was abandoned by its crew in the central Pacific Ocean following an onboard fire, according to a Bloomberg report. The vessel was transporting approximately 3,000 vehicles, including an estimated 800 electric vehicles (EVs). The fire’s origin has not been confirmed, though lithium-ion battery ignition remains a possible cause given the cargo profile and previous mid-sea incidents involving EVs (see here & here).
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/s ... breaks-out
Update: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... ng-pacific
It's abandoned and burning in a calm sea. Not listing, looks fine except for the smoke. Ships have fire suppression systems and the crew typically fight fires, but not EV fires, they are deadly. Chinese EV headed for American shores.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he ship's cargo consisted of 3,048 vehicles, including 70 fully electric vehicles and 681 hybrid electric vehicles.


Only 70 EV. No one wants dat shit no more.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n Tuesday, the Morning Midas—a roll-on/roll-off (RoRo) vehicle carrier—was abandoned by its crew in the central Pacific Ocean following an onboard fire, according to a Bloomberg report. The vessel was transporting approximately 3,000 vehicles, including an estimated 800 electric vehicles (EVs). The fire’s origin has not been confirmed, though lithium-ion battery ignition remains a possible cause given the cargo profile and previous mid-sea incidents involving EVs (see here & here).
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/s ... breaks-out

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby careinke » Thu 05 Jun 2025, 21:31:07

Australia bought 3,900 Tesla's this quarter, up around 9.8% over last quarter. Even Australians should be able to figure this one out.

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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 05 Jun 2025, 21:33:43

The transition hybrid, as it was once called, is absolutely killing the EV. But they in themselves are only a small portion of the cars sold globally. People want gas burners and nothing is going to change their minds on that.
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Re: THE Electric Vehicle (EV) Thread pt 16

Unread postby careinke » Thu 05 Jun 2025, 22:25:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('theluckycountry', 'T')he transition hybrid, as it was once called, is absolutely killing the EV. But they in themselves are only a small portion of the cars sold globally. People want gas burners and nothing is going to change their minds on that.


Do they drive themselves?? I didn't think so.

OK, do you think you can sit still for 29 Minutes? Here is a video by InvestAnswers, called "Welcome to the Thunder Drone: Autonomy Era Begins":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=191X3YoEUVU

What timing, right when a feud breaks out between Musk and Trump. I see a whole lot of buying opportunities ahead. :)

Anyway, back to the storyline of the video. This video is full of DATA/Slides covering; Tesla, X/AI, Starlink, SpaceX etc. If I remember right, over 50.

James, the producer/presenter is a retired Stock Broker, but got involved again when he recognized these huge asymmetric bets coming. He always has a daily podcast 7 days a week, sometimes in his Cyborg Truck.

For everyone else, it is well worth your time to check it out (Lots of footnotes). Of course I fully expect our local troll NOT to watch it.

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