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Unread postby k_semler » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 20:17:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'T')he day I reproduce is the day aliens come from Uranus, .


Are you speaking cryptically, Semler?


He's saying he's gay. NTTAWWT.


Gay as in happy? Or gay as in homosexual?

If you mean happy, that depends upon how much I had to drink or not.

If you mean homosexual, only in your wettest and wildest dreams. I never have got an erection thinking about a man. Some people get off on that type of thing, but none for me, thankyouverymuch.
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Unread postby Tyler_JC » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 20:24:23

I hate humanity more than I like the concept of having a mini-me.

Thus to punish the species, I will not have any children.

My smart genes will die along with me and humanity can go f*ck itself.

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Unread postby killJOY » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 20:24:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')I never have got an erection thinking about a man.




Pity.




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Unread postby threadbear » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 20:30:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'T')he day I reproduce is the day aliens come from Uranus, .


Are you speaking cryptically, Semler?


He's saying he's gay. NTTAWWT.


Gay as in happy? Or gay as in homosexual?

If you mean happy, that depends upon how much I had to drink or not.

If you mean homosexual, only in your wettest and wildest dreams. I never have got an erection thinking about a man. Some people get off on that type of thing, but none for me, thankyouverymuch.


I think thou doth protest too much, Semler. You've made some remarkable Freudian slips here. :lol:
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nice avatar, killjoy

Unread postby drew » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 20:40:40

Killjoy, that picture of yours is a real psycho! :?

He killed some old folks with a chainsaw. :shock:
Chopped off their heads.
Nice!

What is sad though is all the BS the yanks give us canucks over our lax border security.

They should look in the mirror.

Guy featured in avatar is a naturalized yank.

He kills old folks in Canada and crosses into Maine on foot carrying restricted weapons and a bloody chainsaw.

Stupid US customs takes his weapons, but not the saw, and let him go.
Wasn't 'til 2 days later that they realize who he is and arrest him. :oops:

Stupid yanks. :lol:

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Unread postby mgibbons19 » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 20:51:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', 'T')he day I reproduce is the day aliens come from Uranus, .


Are you speaking cryptically, Semler?


He's saying he's gay. NTTAWWT.


Gay as in happy? Or gay as in homosexual?

If you mean happy, that depends upon how much I had to drink or not.

If you mean homosexual, only in your wettest and wildest dreams. I never have got an erection thinking about a man. Some people get off on that type of thing, but none for me, thankyouverymuch.


You're the one that brought up somebody else's anus. Some women might be into that. Would be pretty good birth control too I guess.
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Unread postby The_Virginian » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 20:52:37

WOW A "tripple tag team" On K-Semler.

I hope he Squizes out of this tight spot. :lol:

I would tag to be IN but would rather be OUT of this ring. :lol:

______

Really now, the lauguage and manerisims of American culture are so influenced by Homosexual inuendo (especialy in comedy an "witty" sayings, it is no wonder much of the world thinks we are all latent Homosexuals.

Think Batman and Robin, Team Amerika, South Park, Marshal Mathers's new hit...little boys included, M. Jackson, Hollywood etc.

We ARE preverse, face it. We are shaped to be "changed" on a dime...on que (like in prison).

Can we change and talk about Fecal matter, Anuses and Homosexulaity less?
THAT IS THE FRUEDIAN- and Adlerian- QUESTION.
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watchv=Ai4te4daLZs&feature=related[/url] "My soul longs for the candle and the spices. If only you would pour me a cup of wine for Havdalah...My heart yearning, I shall lift up my eyes to g-d, who provides for my needs day and night."
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Unread postby killJOY » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 21:06:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')tupid US customs takes his weapons, but not the saw, and let him go.
Wasn't 'til 2 days later that they realize who he is and arrest him. Embarassed

When I saw that picture [I live in Maine] and realized they let THIS 8O GUY go, I almost lost my ass laughing.

Look at him!

Can you believe it? They let him 8O go!



Don't you ever feel the way he looks sometimes?


Admit it... 8O
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Unread postby The_Virginian » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 21:09:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')on't you ever feel the way he looks sometimes?


Admit it... Shocked


I admit to nothing....:)

I deny everything.

Did you ever want to kill with a chain saw? (I counter-accuse!)

Besides the guy looks like my little brother
:lol:
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watchv=Ai4te4daLZs&feature=related[/url] "My soul longs for the candle and the spices. If only you would pour me a cup of wine for Havdalah...My heart yearning, I shall lift up my eyes to g-d, who provides for my needs day and night."
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Unread postby mgibbons19 » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 21:16:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', 'W')OW A "tripple tag team" On K-Semler.

I hope he Squizes out of this tight spot. :lol:

I would tag to be IN but would rather be OUT of this ring. :lol:

______

Really now, the lauguage and manerisims of American culture are so influenced by Homosexual inuendo (especialy in comedy an "witty" sayings, it is no wonder much of the world thinks we are all latent Homosexuals.

Think Batman and Robin, Team Amerika, South Park, Marshal Mathers's new hit...little boys included, M. Jackson, Hollywood etc.

We ARE preverse, face it. We are shaped to be "changed" on a dime...on que (like in prison).

Can we change and talk about Fecal matter, Anuses and Homosexulaity less?
THAT IS THE FRUEDIAN- and Adlerian- QUESTION.


But see, his post is just so rich with symbolism and depth. It just begs for deep penet... er interpretation. Aliens flying out of uranus is birthing after all, and this is supposedly about population. And, I don't even know that semler is a man, could be she is one of those girls I mentioned. See, even more complexity.


Back on topic. I'm with the crazy irishman. I don't trust the ZPG ppl any more than I trust evangelicals. Ppl that Know The Future make me nervous. Putting them in positions where they can make decisions make me even more nervous.

And um, I can think of a tie in between this subthread and the picture of chainsaw man.
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Unread postby The_Virginian » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 21:27:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') don't trust the ZPG ppl any more than I trust evangelicals


Right on,

And why? Becuase they don't know the future, but they sure want to CREATE it.

Basicly, IMHO what you're saying they want CONTROL, and they can use any excuse to achieve that goal, overpopulation is as good a crisis as Terrorisim or Drugs. Once you have a crisis you need a solution...the Hegelian solution... the solution to the problem you create/or foster.

Letting a guy in w/ a chainsaw might undermine confidense in the border, well now it needs tightening up! (how's that for a tie in).

Kill Joy may or may not dream of being a cell mate with such a "cutting immage", but he sure likes the looks of it on his computer screen. (ooh another tie in) And the fact that this young man has helped to "de-breed" the planet must be exciting to KJ.

K-semler is? Well whatever "K" is, I hope he finds what he's really looking for...before the bottle gets him.
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watchv=Ai4te4daLZs&feature=related[/url] "My soul longs for the candle and the spices. If only you would pour me a cup of wine for Havdalah...My heart yearning, I shall lift up my eyes to g-d, who provides for my needs day and night."
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Unread postby mgibbons19 » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 21:43:06

My kids are the best thing in my life. I know not everyone wants kids and that's fine. I'm not putting them down, but I am saying that mine are the reason I live. Now these guys are wanting to take that away from complete strangers because those strangers are the sheple. And that's on their good day. On their bad days they are engineering multi billion human die offs. I'ld rather take my chances with nature than with these guys.

I was thinking that was the first-time look. 8O
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Unread postby turmoil » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 21:52:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gt1370a', '
')You forgot the part about making abortion free. Maybe people are too stupid to use birth control, but they might be smart enough to get a free abortion if taxes are no longer going to subsidize their offspring.


True.


sigh..ok now for the rest of you...

First to the parents. I expected nothing less of you. You will defend your family to the death. How honorable, seriously. There is nothing for me to counter there, except to say that no amount of resilency will protect you or anyone (and the offspring) from bullet wounds or radiation.

The Whole Point is not to predict the future. It is to realize that none of us can predict or control the future. WE LIVE ON A ROCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NOWHERE CALLED SPACE. Exposing MORE people to the horrors of the human condition will only hurt them.

We have seen what humans are like with a surplus of energy: :evil:
We have seen what humans are like with minimal energy: :twisted:
What else is there to see?
Humans with decreasing energy: [smilie=angry4.gif]

Contrary to what some may think, the solution is to do nothing pre or post peak. Except to not put anymore people on the earth to die killing each other.

Now to address the killJOY avatar: :roll: any bets on how soon he gets another chain saw? (nevermind now i feel, you guessed it...stupid)

Edit: bullet wounds, radiation, famine, disease, starvation, dehydration, religion, and their own human nature.
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Unread postby BrownDog » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 22:18:23

I take it that you're a doomer, stupid_monkeys? :P
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Unread postby turmoil » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 22:37:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BrownDog', 'I') take it that you're a doomer, stupid_monkeys? :P


Most of the time yes, and the doom could only be accurately expressed with emicons :). But on good days I really do think that Fusion will power the next ___ years of human civilization, even after all the fossil fuels, uranium, fertile land, and Common Sense are gone. 8O

*goes outside to enjoy the rain*
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Unread postby killJOY » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 22:37:45

Some of you haven fallen prey to the EITHER/OR FALLACY: "You're a childless advocate of ZPG, or you're a parent who doesn't trust the ZPG movement." False on the face of it.

By far the MOST STRENUOUS opponents of population control in any form have been the childless popes, cardinals, bishops, priests and nuns of the Catholic church. What mother has had the influence over people's reproduction choices that "Mother" Theresa has?

Also, I'd wager the vast majority of those advocating population control have had children. Why? Because statistically MOST PEOPLE have children, and there is no logical reason to assume a correlation between one's reproductive status and one's opinion on population growth.


It's a natural tendency of ape brains to dichotomize the world. There may have been sound evolutionary reasons for our minds to default in this direction, but one of the major points of education is to modify our "natural" tendencies.

Never forget the words of Professor Allen Bartlett: "ZERO POPULATION GROWTH IS GONNA HAPPEN."
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i'm glad i don't look like that

Unread postby drew » Mon 25 Jul 2005, 23:08:48

yeah I admit i feel like he looks sometimes :-D

you should check out the link JC put up on mental disorders,

we are all not quite right :cry:

P.S. like the buggy eyes in the mugshot

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Unread postby BrownDog » Tue 26 Jul 2005, 00:31:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'S')ome of you haven fallen prey to the EITHER/OR FALLACY: "You're a childless advocate of ZPG, or you're a parent who doesn't trust the ZPG movement." False on the face of it.
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It's a natural tendency of ape brains to dichotomize the world. There may have been sound evolutionary reasons for our minds to default in this direction, but one of the major points of education is to modify our "natural" tendencies.

I agree.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BrownDog', 'T')his issue reminds me of so many others that have been polarized as either all good or all bad. It's a false paradox, and polarizing it in this way is not helping make the point, in my opinion.
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Unread postby turmoil » Tue 26 Jul 2005, 01:18:14

Just so there's no confusion, here's my overall point and my reason for starting this thread: I would _not_ have kids under the circumstances, and I would _not_ advise having any, or any more, depending on your situation. Here in this thread are a few good reasons why I think this is true. Thank you all for your input (not that the discussion is over). [smilie=thumbsup.gif]

One more comment to the parents: Children can be good for you. I respect you for wanting to continue your species and pass on what you know. The human species has a lot of potential. I'm just not putting my money or another life on that potential. I wish you the best of luck and I hope you can respect my decision at least as much as I respect yours.

Hows that for depolarizing. :-D
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Unread postby Ayoob » Tue 26 Jul 2005, 03:38:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', '
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...another midevil era?



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