by ralfy » Sun 28 Jun 2015, 05:33:41
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Graeme', 'I') just pointed out to you that the opposite of all your statements is the case. RE IS the cheapest option; the article DOES refer to economic growth but the last paragraph refers to sustainability; business turning to RE does NOT mean that it needs more energy; it MEANS it can use energy more efficiently AND conserve the environment (and NOT continue with BAU, i.e. burn FF). I think we CAN have our cake and eat it, i.e., sustainability AND economic growth.
The problem is not what is cheapest compared to others but what is cheap enough to ensure economic growth. RE does not assure that in any way.
The article refers to sustainability because economic growth is not possible. This thread refers to the latter, not to the former.
Business turning to RE means it needs more energy because it exists in a global free market capitalist system. Such a system requires economic growth, and the latter means more energy and resources needed. That same system involves competition, which means efficiency does not lead to conservation because that's an opportunity cost. In addition, economic growth means more economic activity, and that means more pollution, not less.
Proof of this can be seen in the last one hundred years, which essentially involve industrialization coupled with increasing globalization. During the same period, money supply, credit levels, energy consumption, and material resource consumption went up. Not surprisingly, so did oil consumption, pollution, and environmental damage. More details here:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... g-collapseGiven that, it is highly unlikely that RE, which not only has low energy returns and quantity but requires oil for mining, manufacturing, and shipping, will allow for resource availability and pollution to reverse, while food, industrial output, and services per capita will continue to ramp up indefinitely, ensuring sustainability of profits and returns on investment for businesses.