[dissident]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'I') learned as a small child to be polite to police officers and Sherrif deputies and it has served me well. Yes I got a few tickets, but I have never been arrested because I never refused to do the sensible thing and avoid a confrontation of my own making.

[Subjectivist]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'I') learned as a small child to be polite to police officers and Sherrif deputies and it has served me well. Yes I got a few tickets, but I have never been arrested because I never refused to do the sensible thing and avoid a confrontation of my own making.

[noobtube]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Subjectivist', 'I') learned as a small child to be polite to police officers and Sherrif deputies and it has served me well. Yes I got a few tickets, but I have never been arrested because I never refused to do the sensible thing and avoid a confrontation of my own making.

[wildbourgman]

Wow, noobtube I sure didn't think that the subjectivist comment was very inflamitory. Really it seemed kind of milk toast to me.

[rdberg1957]

Americans have multiple problems when it comes to police. More than 400 people per year are shot by American police. In Germany, Britain and France combined, 6 people died in interactions with police in 2012. One problem is that American police have to be more on their guard than British, French or German counterparts. There are many fewer guns in Europe.

In addition, American police are becoming less accountable. They are able to get surplus military hardware, including tanks because of a federal law that allows police departments to keep money confiscated without any legal process. All that is required is police suspicion that the money was used in criminal activity. This law is patently unconstitutional, but has gone unchallenged. (A series of articles was done on this law by the Washington Post this year). It allows police to become less accountable to elected officials because they have money which is not allocated by the legislature or city council.

[Keith_McClary]

If Eric Garner's killer can't be indicted, what cop possibly could? It's time to fix grand juries
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you are an ordinary citizen being investigated for a crime by an American grand jury, there is a 99.993% chance you’ll be indicted. Yet if you’re a police officer, that chance falls to effectively nil.

[Oneaboveall]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '[')url=http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/04/eric-garner-indicted-cop-grand-juries-video-evidence]If Eric Garner's killer can't be indicted, what cop possibly could? It's time to fix grand juries[/url]
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you are an ordinary citizen being investigated for a crime by an American grand jury, there is a 99.993% chance you’ll be indicted. Yet if you’re a police officer, that chance falls to effectively nil.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '[')url=http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/04/eric-garner-indicted-cop-grand-juries-video-evidence]If Eric Garner's killer can't be indicted, what cop possibly could? It's time to fix grand juries[/url]
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you are an ordinary citizen being investigated for a crime by an American grand jury, there is a 99.993% chance you’ll be indicted. Yet if you’re a police officer, that chance falls to effectively nil.

[SeaGypsy]

If anything like most places in the world, about 90% of indicted/ committed to trial cases result in guilty pleas. A 1% overall acquittal rate indicates roughly 10% success for actual defended cases. The odds then hinge on the amount of money the person charged is able to muster for the defence. Another huge factor is the level of legal awareness of the charged, in knowing exactly what not to say in an interview, rules of evidence etc.

In the case of police officers being charged, there will almost always be a vigorous defence, usually funded by police unions, which know exactly the best lawyers, legal strategies, & in most cases the defendant has been wise enough to keep their mouths shut as soon as they know they are under suspicion.

These facts indicate reform is going to be close to impossible, only total restructuring would make any difference. The required interference with the courts would almost certainly be unconstitutional & beyond even Presidential authority.

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '[')url=http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/04/eric-garner-indicted-cop-grand-juries-video-evidence]If Eric Garner's killer can't be indicted, what cop possibly could? It's time to fix grand juries[/url]
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you are an ordinary citizen being investigated for a crime by an American grand jury, there is a 99.993% chance you’ll be indicted. Yet if you’re a police officer, that chance falls to effectively nil.

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', 'T')his man was being harrassed by cops for supposedly selling single cigarettes without paying taxes. Really? First of all that has big government and nanny state's signature all over it.

[dissident]

Here is an example of the ridiculous police state inanity afflicting the US:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRZM9I7Psxs

That's right, arrested for walking by with hands in pocket and making "people" (I guess they must be hypothetical and not real) nervous. I bet if he resisted this ludicrous arrest he would have been shot and shot to death. Then some f*cka** "grand jury" would be really, really concerned with the poor policeman's career and life. Since in America the police can do no wrong.

Americans should stop worrying about what happens on the other side of the planet (thanks to the meddling by their own government) and worry about how to clean up the mess at home.

[Sixstrings]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissident', 'H')ow does a cop expect politeness from someone with Down's syndrome who is experiencing a hysterical attack? Too many excuses for poor little police officers who shoot first and ask questions later.

[Sixstrings]

By the way, in case anyone ever thinks I'm a racist, I'm really not.

I'm actually dating a woman of mixed race lately. Half black, and her white side is some Asian and Irish and Italian.

She's petite and absolutely gorgeous. We met online five years ago -- and this is a whole other story and off topic, and twist of fate. She lived up north, and I lived in the South, and we were more like good friends and we did this online creative building mmo together.

So I actually knew her a long time and we spent a lot of time together, was always text, not even a voice.

We drifted apart, and then she ran into me out of nowhere one time -- completely by chance, we were in the same spot and she had a different online name. So we started talking again, and she was an online friend for the last year.

I just recently found out she had moved -- not just to the South, not just to my same state, not just to my same town, but down the street from me. The quirk of chance and fate is just astounding, to me.

So of course we had to meet, and we had a date the other day.

I had a wonderful time. Best first date of my life. I should have made another thread for this, it touches on multiple topics, one being the strangeness of the modern world and knowing people in other states and knowing them "online" and spending so much time with them. And then what is it like, if you meet for real, after so much time?

Well, I found out it was an instant companion. It was just like all that time we spent online together. She's far better for real, she's smart and funny, so sweet, younger than me and a massive nerd. She's an introvert, homebody, on the computer all the time. Plays the same dork computer games that I do -- the exact same games.

She is SO funny. We spent a good 12 hours together, talked nonstop the whole time.

There are some differences -- but race is an irrelevant one. She "sounds white." She's an artist (I'm not, but I like artists). She can draw, paint, CAD, all of that.

She's a bit of a doomer and talked about ebola. She's even a russophobe! Or Putin phobe, at least, and she brought that topic up (we had never discussed that before). Now I've come to learn a lot about Russia, so I'm really not a russophobe, and I corrected her on some facts and how things are in Russia. But just meeting someone that knows anything about geopolitics, and all the issues, and is aware of events, that's nice.

So anyhow, Sixtrings is a happy man lately.

Bringing this back around on topic -- it's my first experience at interracial dating, and the race factor is utterly irrelevant. We have so much in common, it's uncanny, and what we don't have in common, complements the other.

If anyone really IS a racist -- as in, you wouldn't even give a job interview to a woman just because she is black or part black, then that's wrong.

I've dated a lot of women in my life, and this is the one of the smartest funniest women I've ever met. She's got a good work ethic too, and I like that.

P.S. I very rarely say anything about my personal life, but I thought I'd share this with the forum since we've been talking about race lately.

And also so you know I'm not a total shut-in. I sure had fun the other day, wish me luck guys.

[wildbourgman]

Sixstrings, do you know how I know your a racist? Read your last post you racist shut-in.

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'S')ix, that is great. Now you won't be such a hard#ass

But back to the thread; retraining is not enough. Government needs to be funded, as per the liberal agenda.

If we a nation refuse to tax ourselves adequately then we get the overworked, underpaid, stressed-out police department we see behind these events. It cost money to put a cop on the ground, in the hood, on an old-fashioned beat. As long as the cops patrol inside impersonal, impressive, high-powered, (now armored?) vehicles, regular folks feel disgust and threatened. And react accordingly. Neighborhoods should be patrolled by peer-police. People from the neighborhood. Not an imported occupying force.

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'Y')our conservative roots are showing bourg. "Get 'em off the streets and put 'em into work houses I say!"

Would you suggest we lower the minimum wage to $1/day, like in Pakistan, so those punks have something to do with their time? Or maybe the ghetto needs more burger flippers?