[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', '
')2. The breakdown of the family unit, due to welfare taking the place of the family.

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', '
')2. The breakdown of the family unit, due to welfare taking the place of the family.

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', 'F')amilies have migrated to where the work (food) was for thousands of years and in this day and age it happens even faster.

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', 'F')amilies have migrated to where the work (food) was for thousands of years and in this day and age it happens even faster.

[wildbourgman]

Dorlomin, let me get this right are you saying we need a welfare state, because that helps people move away from thier family in order to find work?

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', 'D')orlomin, let me get this right are you saying we need a welfare state, because

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', 'D')orlomin, let me get this right are you saying we need a welfare state, because

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', '
')Is that an answer?

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', '
')Is that an answer?

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', '
')You have heard that the internet can be used for more than online discussions ?

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', '
')You have heard that the internet can be used for more than online discussions ?

[dorlomin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', '[')I think that's an old fashioned elitist way of thinking.

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dorlomin', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', '[')I think that's an old fashioned elitist way of thinking.

[ralfy]

Governments, like households, the military, and businesses, have as a primary purpose their continued existence. They will help the other groups only if it is in their best interest to do so.

Thus, governments will support initiatives to increase life expectancy rates, etc., because that allows for greater prosperity, and thus more income for households and more profits for businesses, which in turn means more tax revenues for governments. The same principle applies to households, the military, and others.

But when problems take place, then mutual support weakens. In this case, we have a country with large amounts of credit, which in turn was used to increase military spending needed to protect the petrodollar, and that spending may be connected to large prison systems, increased surveillance, and more spending for police and intelligence networks.

The credit was also used to foster consumer spending and the rise of a middle class, in turn leading to preferences for white collar jobs, increased debt and spending, etc.

As large amounts of credit lead to financial crisis, and in turn economic problems such as unemployment, bankruptcy, etc., and coupled with the effects of oil supply issues and global warming, then police and military organizations may become more alarmed, if not paranoid. This may lead to more "collateral damage" outside the country as well as more incidences of police brutality, fines, jailing or imprisonment, etc.

[wildbourgman]

Ralfy, can you make a clear point out of all that. I mean it, really, take me somewhere and quit beating around the bush brother!

[joesnufy]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oneaboveall', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', '[')url=http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/dec/04/eric-garner-indicted-cop-grand-juries-video-evidence]If Eric Garner's killer can't be indicted, what cop possibly could? It's time to fix grand juries[/url]
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you are an ordinary citizen being investigated for a crime by an American grand jury, there is a 99.993% chance you’ll be indicted. Yet if you’re a police officer, that chance falls to effectively nil.

[ralfy]

The government, businesses, the military, and households are all dependent on increased borrowing and spending, and they will support each other to ensure that.

When increased borrowing and spending leads to financial crisis, then economic problems worsen. That not only weakens a government that already has a powerful police and surveillance system, it also makes them more paranoid, if not aggressive, if only to justify amounts spent on police and military organizations.

The result is increased propensity not only to threaten other countries (especially those that have natural resources but also governments that want to move away from the U.S. dollar) but also to threaten its own local population: more fines, shoot and ask questions later, arrests for all sorts of violations, etc.

[wildbourgman]

Ralfy, now was that so hard?

I think that more and more I am in agreement with your comment and I don't like that at all. I don't think things have to be that way, but it certainly looks like it is that way.

[dissident]

http://www.pri.org/stories/2013-12-03/i ... ts-history

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '&')quot;The nation was in shock. This does not happen in our country," said Thora Arnorsdottir, news editor at RUV, the Icelandic National Broadcasting Service.

She was referring to a 59-year old man who was shot by police on Monday. The man, who started shooting at police when they entered his building, had a history of mental illness.

[wildbourgman]

I think Iceland would be in shock about alot of things in the United States. They would be even more shocked if they could understand what was being said by most people in America, but I don't think many in Iceland speak Spanish.