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Unread postby eastbay » Tue 04 Sep 2007, 18:24:21

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Re: Eat an Apple

Unread postby Falconoffury » Wed 05 Sep 2007, 00:17:52

The problem with apple computers... is that they cannot be repaired! Even the engineers at apple cannot repair these things. That is why they try to make up excuses when they have to fix these things.

Why apple doesn't setup a modular hardware design like PCs is beyond me. When do their copyrights expire so that third parties can start building apple clones?
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Apple customers crying for iPhones in Canada

Unread postby NoWorries » Mon 14 Jul 2008, 11:35:50

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columb ... ml?ref=rss

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')t 9 a.m., an hour after the store opened, the 300 or so damp people waiting in a line that stretched around the block still hadn't been told they would not be able to buy this year's hottest gadget — at least not from the main store.
Smartphone forum: Visit CBCNews.ca's smartphone forum to debate the pros and cons of the latest mobile devices.
"One hundred phones for the flagship store in the largest city in Canada? That's pathetic," said one waiting customer, who asked not to be named.

Jennifer Gibson, the store's manager, confirmed Rogers had only 80 units of the 8 GB iPhone and 20 of the 16 GB version for sale on Friday. Other stores in the area were stocked with between 40 to 60, she said.

Rogers and its subsidiary, Fido, are the only retail source for the iPhone in Canada.

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"Customers at the Yonge and Dundas store had been promised breakfast, which many were annoyed to find consisted of a granola bar. Still, the menu was the least of their concerns.

Rogers opened six of its main stores across Canada, including Yonge and Dundas, early on Friday morning and invited the media to witness the long lineups. Television networks flashed pictures of the smiling few who got their iPhones, but many of the grumbling hundreds were ignored.

"It only takes a little corporate respect to tell customers they're out of phones," said Hugh, who did not want his last name used. He had lined up at 1 a.m. and was angry that Rogers hadn't informed customers of the stock shortfall. "This has completely backfired on them."



"Wa-ahh! wa-ahh! Waaaah! I want my iPhone and I want it now!!"

Wait until he finds out the :cry: oil supply is limited.
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The "Apple" Doctrine

Unread postby phaster » Fri 23 Jan 2009, 02:26:25

Today AAPL was up while the rest of the market was down, perhaps because MSFT announced 5,000 job cuts over the next 18 months, a worse-than-expected 11% drop in fiscal second-quarter earnings and pulled its view for the year.

Also happened to read the fortune blog on the "Apple" doctrine. Basically in a conference call the temporary CEO of Apple set the tone for where the management want to take the company; striving to create electronic devices that sacrifice nothing to achieve form and function.

http://gowest.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/200 ... -at-apple/

I thought it was an interesting read because in a way its kinda like the Gottlieb Daimler's (founder of mercedes benz) who wanted "nothing but the best" and built a world class company and brand.

I figure with the economy what it is, world class companies that have conservative fiscal management and build quality products which combine form, function and durability will come out of this economic storm in very dominant positions.

I just thought I'd bring this up because I see parallels between what Apple looked like prior to the return of Steve Jobs as CEO and the the state of the US government and economy.

Back then Apple had lackluster product lines, the company company was bleeding cash and the management didn't have focus or discipline. Doesn't that kinda sound like the general state of the USA which has a tarnish brand but lots of potential, needs to clean up the utter fiscal mismanagement, impose discipline in unsustainable social programs (specifically medicare and medicade), and improve its international relationships (which is much akin to customer service).

A decade ago AAPL could be bought on the cheap, and even though AAPL is significantly down from its high, the company has lots of cash on hand and a simplified product line that has great consumer demand because it ignores useless bells and whistles.

Looking at how Obama is approaching the problem of how to govern, I can't help but wonder if he like Steve Jobs, should not be looked at as turnaround artists who bring discipline and vision to organizations that were run into the ground by prior management that really phucked things up!
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Re: The "Apple" Doctrine

Unread postby mos6507 » Fri 23 Jan 2009, 03:23:05

That's actually a good parallel. I've thought that Steve Jobs' keynotes were taking on almost a political speech quality. You know, kind of "state of the union"-like. Obama very much has to reframe the american brand, as it were, to show people it's worth something again. Beyond the fundamental problems the US has, it DOES have a morale problem at home and a PR nightmare abroad. Obama's ability to give rousing speeches may be just the style of president we need. Just imagine if we had McCain up there looking awkward with his eyebrows twitching.
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Re: The "Apple" Doctrine

Unread postby bratticus » Fri 23 Jan 2009, 16:50:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('phaster', 's')triving to create electronic devices that sacrifice nothing to achieve form and function.


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Re: The "Apple" Doctrine

Unread postby errorist » Fri 23 Jan 2009, 17:47:30

Apple just fires 5000+ of his clients and market is happy. Will market be even more happy when Apple anounces that doors will be closed and any leftover funny money wil be distributed to shareholders?

Good luck my fellow humans. We are going straight to hell in fast pace.
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Re: The "Apple" Doctrine

Unread postby phaster » Wed 28 Jan 2009, 14:54:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('errorist', 'A')pple just fires 5000+ of his clients and market is happy. Will market be even more happy when Apple anounces that doors will be closed and any leftover funny money wil be distributed to shareholders?

Good luck my fellow humans. We are going straight to hell in fast pace.


from your post I'm pretty sure you missed the point, so I'll type real slow to make sure get what I'm dtring to say, hehehehe

The "Apple" Doctrine IMHO is a management style that should be looked at right now because it is an example thus far of successful company that is not being affected by the current credit crisis.

As a matter of fact it is NOT apple that had announced plans to lay off 5000 people, but rather microsoft. Also what you might find interesting is the conservative approach apple has taken toward its profits, basically instead of it burning a hole in its pockets to spend it on something useless (which is akin to the mentality of the typical consumer), the management of apple has built up a stockpile of cash on the order of 25 plus billion dollars, and from all indications even in this economic downturn its still going to grow.

So from where I sit, I think it is important to look at how apple was able to manage this feat, because back in the 1990's apple was a not very well run company, that didn't have leadership with focus or vision from consumer stand point, was bleeding lots of cash onhand because it was not looking at efficency and from a PR standpoint was not too well respected (which if ya think about it from an international standpoint is kinda how the Bush administration ran the USA, into the ground).

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Apple has more cash on hand than the federal government

Unread postby Sixstrings » Fri 29 Jul 2011, 10:06:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')img]http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/4da3244b49e2ae6a141a0000-399-300/uncle-sam.jpg[/img]

Here's something to keep in mind as you follow this evening's congressional debate over the debt ceiling.
According to the latest daily statement from the U.S. Treasury, the government had an operating cash balance of $73.8 billion at the end of the day yesterday.

Apple's last earnings report (PDF here) showed that the company had $76.2 billion in cash and marketable securities at the end of June.
In other words, the world's largest tech company has more cash than the world's largest sovereign government.
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-has-more-cash-on-hand-than-the-us-government-2011-7


That's seriously screwed up.. and yet nobody seems to think Apple, GE, Google, Facebook, or Farmville should have to pay taxes.
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Re: Apple has more cash on hand than the federal government

Unread postby The Practician » Fri 29 Jul 2011, 16:13:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')That's seriously screwed up.. and yet nobody seems to think Apple, GE, Google, Facebook, or Farmville should have to pay taxes.


Come on, you wouldn't want to tax the "job creators" now, would you?
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Re: Apple has more cash on hand than the federal government

Unread postby Sixstrings » Fri 29 Jul 2011, 19:44:31

It just got worse than when I posted this..

Treasury's cash on hand dropped by $15 billion overnight:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')reasury Cash Drops By $15 Billion Overnight, At $51.6 Billion
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/treasury-cash-drops-15-billion-overnight-516-billion-5-billion-sgp-bills-roll


In a few days your local hardware store will have more cash on hand the federal government.
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Re: Apple has more cash on hand than the federal government

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 07:30:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The Practician', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')That's seriously screwed up.. and yet nobody seems to think Apple, GE, Google, Facebook, or Farmville should have to pay taxes.


Come on, you wouldn't want to tax the "job creators" now, would you?


Tax corporations all you want. In the end, they either will raise prices to compensate, or just go overseas if our (enforced) tax rates are too high to be competitive. Or shut down if taxes and regulations get beyond being worth the trouble and risk. (And won't THAT be great for job creation?)

In the end, individuals (the owners and/or the customers) actually are the ones who pay the taxes. There is no magical free-money tree, no matter how badly the left may wish for it.

Oh, I forgot, The left, under the likes of Obama will magically create great jobs for everyone. Their track record has been SO efficient and successful at that... :roll:
Given the track record of the perma-doomer blogs, I wouldn't bet a fast crash doomer's money on their predictions.
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Re: Apple has more cash on hand than the federal government

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 08:05:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'I')t just got worse than when I posted this..

Treasury's cash on hand dropped by $15 billion overnight:

Now tell me, why government whose contribution to productive economic activity is zero should be allowed to spend $15 billions overnight?
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Re: Apple has more cash on hand than the federal government

Unread postby Cloud9 » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 08:12:47

Wars, rumors of war, bread, circuses, and an omnipotent omnipresent bureaucracy.
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Re: Apple has more cash on hand than the federal government

Unread postby The Practician » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 10:33:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'I')t just got worse than when I posted this..

Treasury's cash on hand dropped by $15 billion overnight:

Now tell me, why government whose contribution to productive economic activity is zero should be allowed to spend $15 billions overnight?
(bold mine)

If that is what people in the States actually believe, it's no wonder you're so screwed.
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Re: Apple has more cash on hand than the federal government

Unread postby mattduke » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 11:05:06

The US government should steal Apple's money.
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Re: Apple has more cash on hand than the federal government

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 11:36:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'T')he US government should steal Apple's money.

That would be an Apple per week project. :-D :-D :-D
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Re: Apple has more cash on hand than the federal government

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 11:38:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The Practician', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'I')t just got worse than when I posted this..

Treasury's cash on hand dropped by $15 billion overnight:

Now tell me, why government whose contribution to productive economic activity is zero should be allowed to spend $15 billions overnight?
(bold mine)

If that is what people in the States actually believe, it's no wonder you're so screwed.

And peoples in PIIGS are even more screwed because they believe otherwise.
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Re: Apple has more cash on hand than the federal government

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 11:44:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')In a few days your local hardware store will have more cash on hand the federal government.

In few days my kids will have more money than US government. :-D :-D :-D
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Re: Apple has more cash on hand than the federal government

Unread postby babystrangeloop » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 13:35:38

Drama. Just like the "last minute" shutdown of the Fed a few months ago. They'd do anything for more attention to the non-issues and distractions instead of letting the media and the world focus on any real or fundamental issues.

At some point they will just sign some piece of paper and the crisis will be out of the spotlight.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]One knew that it was all rubbish, so why let oneself be worried by it? She knew when to cheer and when to boo, and that was all one needed.
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