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Re: Interpol issues worldwide wanted notice for wikileak fou

Postby yeahbut » Thu 02 Dec 2010, 02:01:43

I wonder how often Interpol issues a worldwide wanted notice for a rape charge? I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess it's ununsual.
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Re: Interpol issues worldwide wanted notice for wikileak fou

Postby Crazy_Dad » Thu 02 Dec 2010, 02:17:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('papa moose', 'T')hanks CrazyDad, that was very informative.

Let me get this straight:
1) He started out doing what they wanted (sex with condom)
2) He ended up doing something they hadn't wanted (sex without a condom)
3) She then bragged to all her friends about the first activity (sex + condom)
4) She then went to cops but _didn't_ "accuse" him of the second activity (sex - condom)
5) So the prosecutors have charged him for the second activity (sex - condom)
6) But becuase of her third activity (bragging) they don't have a hope of winning the case
7) SOOOo the hot shot prosecutor is going to make up a new law during the case to make the first activity (sex + condom) illegal, due to the fact the guy was a "celebrity"; which was the whole reason for (1.) and (3.) occurring?

Makes sense to me! :?


It makes no sense, which is why the UK police have not taken him in(The Brit's hate embarrasment). Interpol are showing themselves to be the proxy for someone/thing else.
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Re: First Dump of Wikileaks at NYT

Postby Fiddlerdave » Thu 02 Dec 2010, 02:42:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drgoodword', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')1. Do the math. There is a big difference between one memo and 250,000 secret documents from the state department.

No US administration in decades has suffered this large a security breach.
An absurd claim. You could maybe say "security breach to the public", but some of the CIA and other spy and double agent cases have been massive, and probably involving much more sensitive and damaging stuff.
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Re: First Dump of Wikileaks at NYT

Postby Plantagenet » Thu 02 Dec 2010, 03:05:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fiddlerdave', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drgoodword', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '
')1. Do the math. There is a big difference between one memo and 250,000 secret documents from the state department.

No US administration in decades has suffered this large a security breach.
An absurd claim. You could maybe say "security breach to the public", but some of the CIA and other spy and double agent cases have been massive, and probably involving much more sensitive and damaging stuff.


An absurd claim.

Please name the prior leak that you think is larger then the 250,000 secret documents released to the public (and the over 2 million additional secret documents Wikileaks has that haven't been released to the public yet). :roll:
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Re: Interpol issues worldwide wanted notice for wikileak fou

Postby Crazy_Dad » Thu 02 Dec 2010, 04:26:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ikiLeaks: British police asked to join hunt for Julian Assange
British police have been asked to join the international hunt for Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, over rape allegations.
Potentially
Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks whose previous leaks have included hundreds of thousands of secret Iraq war logs Photo: AP
By Steven Swinford 6:30AM GMT 02 Dec 2010

The 39-year-old Australian, who is thought to be in Britain, is wanted by Swedish prosecutors on suspicion of two counts of rape.

On Tuesday, Interpol issued a “red notice” to 188 countries, stating that Mr Assange was wanted in Sweden and asking anyone with information about him to contact their local or national police force.

The notice has reportedly been brought to the attention of all British forces by the Serious Organised Crime Agency, which is handling the case. Mr Assange’s precise location remains unknown but he is a frequent visitor to Britain. He conducted press conferences in London earlier this year and is reportedly in hiding near the capital.

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While red notices do not amount to an arrest warrant, an Interpol spokesman said they were often interpreted as a “valid request for provisional arrest”, especially when the countries involved have an extradition treaty, as Sweden and Britain do.

A source at Scotland Yard said it has received no information about Mr Assange’s whereabouts. Mark Stephens, his British lawyer, said that he had not been contacted by either Interpol or police.

As the search intensified, the WikiLeaks website, which is releasing a selection of more than 250,000 classified US diplomatic cables, came under cyber-attack, making it inaccessible to users in the United States and Europe.

In a Twitter message, WikiLeaks said it was under a “distributed denial of service attack”, a method used by hackers to slow or bring down sites. The assault is believed to come from China.

The allegations against Mr Assange surfaced in August when two women went to police with complaints of sexual assault.

Mr Stephens said yesterday that the red notice was a “persecution and prosecution” of his client, and that the Swedish authorities had ignored repeated requests from Mr Assange for a meeting.

He said: “It is highly irregular and unusual. Mr Assange has repeatedly sought meetings with the prosecutrix – both in Sweden and subsequently – in order to answer her questions and clear his name.

“We are also investigating whether the prosecutor’s application to have Mr Assange held incommunicado without access to lawyers, visitors or other prisoners – again a unique request – is in any way linked to this matter and the recent, rather bellicose US statements of an intention to prosecute Mr Assange.”

A spokesman for Scotland Yard refused to comment about Mr Assange, but said: “If an arrest warrant has been issued of any kind to all forces around the world then those forces would act on any information they received.”

Mr Assange’s mother, Christine, who runs a puppet theatre in Queensland, Australia, said she was worried about her son. She said: “Obviously I don’t want him hunted down and jailed. I’m reacting as any mother would. I’m distressed.”


Now I am getting angry. :-x
Will this man get justice or will the CIA get their way?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')e said: “It is highly irregular and unusual. Mr Assange has repeatedly sought meetings with the prosecutrix – both in Sweden and subsequently – in order to answer her questions and clear his name.

“We are also investigating whether the prosecutor’s application to have Mr Assange held incommunicado without access to lawyers, visitors or other prisoners – again a unique request – is in any way linked to this matter and the recent, rather bellicose US statements of an intention to prosecute Mr Assange.”


This is obviously not the normal way of doing things by law.

Edit: Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... sange.html
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Re: Interpol issues worldwide wanted notice for wikileak fou

Postby Sixstrings » Thu 02 Dec 2010, 08:43:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Crazy_Dad', 'N')ow I am getting angry. :-x


You should be angry -- you're Australian, and an Australian passport holder is about to get railroaded. Rather than coming to his defense, his own country is looking for something to charge him with. 8O

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ill this man get justice or will the CIA get their way?


It looks to me like the Swedish thing is just a way to get him detained for a while. The rape charge won't stick, but while he's locked up they can figure out what else to charge him with.
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Re: Wikileaks shut down in America, opens in Sweden hours la

Postby Niagara » Thu 02 Dec 2010, 09:08:22

Poetic justice.

Amazon boots wikileaks off their servers out of fear of being boycotted.

Now they're getting boycotted because of it.

Dumbasses.
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Re: Wikileaks shut down in America, opens in Sweden hours la

Postby Crazy_Dad » Thu 02 Dec 2010, 20:00:01

From one of the last leaders we as a world ever had (R.I.P.) -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces
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Re: Interpol issues worldwide wanted notice for wikileak fou

Postby Crazy_Dad » Thu 02 Dec 2010, 20:10:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Crazy_Dad', 'N')ow I am getting angry. :-x


You should be angry -- you're Australian, and an Australian passport holder is about to get railroaded. Rather than coming to his defense, his own country is looking for something to charge him with. 8O

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ill this man get justice or will the CIA get their way?


It looks to me like the Swedish thing is just a way to get him detained for a while. The rape charge won't stick, but while he's locked up they can figure out what else to charge him with.


An indictment is secret until served in some cases, so as not to tip off the target. So that they do not go deeper underground. I think this is the purpose of the Swedish case. Have him in custody then hit him with the US indictment. Cue Kangaroo court.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces

It seems everything went down hill since "they" shot J.F.K.
Who are "they"? Embryonic Neocons? Banks? Military Coup? Mad man? I guess we may never know.

Wikileaks is our defence against the "They". JA is an international hero already to many. Martyring him may be an even bigger mistake by the US Govt.
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Re: Interpol issues worldwide wanted notice for wikileak fou

Postby Sixstrings » Thu 02 Dec 2010, 20:43:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Crazy_Dad', 'W')ikileaks is our defence against the "They". JA is an international hero already to many. Martyring him may be an even bigger mistake by the US Govt.


Is this getting much coverage in Australia? I had a look at your ABC network site when I was tying to find some info. WikiLeaks or Assange was NOWHERE on the front page, just stuff like "mum leaves child in pool" and "Keeping cats and dogs safe in summer," etc. On the news backpage they have maybe two Wikileak articles buried further down.
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Re: Interpol issues worldwide wanted notice for wikileak fou

Postby Crazy_Dad » Thu 02 Dec 2010, 20:53:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')Is this getting much coverage in Australia? I had a look at your ABC network site when I was tying to find some info. WikiLeaks or Assange was NOWHERE on the front page, just stuff like "mum leaves child in pool" and "Keeping cats and dogs safe in summer," etc. On the news backpage they have maybe two Wikileak articles buried further down.


Not really Sixstrings. We have a Murdoch Press too you know :twisted:
Our Government pretty much does what it is told by the White House.

We do have a great tradition of giving the finger to the authorities here though.
Check the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Rebellion

Also this site where much of the Aussie tech community shares info has a thread:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-re ... ?t=1587639

And independent news like crikey.com.au and the ABC(Australian broadcast commission) has the 4 courners program which is usually well researched and truthful. But not much else.

Even the format of our news is the same as yours, for continuity I guess 8)

I'm sure the push here for net censorship is part of the big picture too /edit
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Re: Interpol issues worldwide wanted notice for wikileak fou

Postby Satori » Thu 02 Dec 2010, 21:37:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Oakley', 'L')ook what happens when you mess with criminal enterprises; they hunt you down and send you to the Gulag. The only difference between the government mob and the illegal mob is that the government mob pretends to use legal means to eliminate you; the illegal mob would not bother with the rigged "legal" procedures to make their violence look justified.



WELL said

I'm surprised he hasn't been assassinated by the government
or had an "accident"
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Re: Interpol issues worldwide wanted notice for wikileak fou

Postby Plantagenet » Thu 02 Dec 2010, 21:47:20

How did Hillary expect her diplomats to get DNA samples from the UN secreatry general and the other world leaders?

Did she want her diplomats to use the same method that Monica Lewinsky used to get DNA samples from Bill Clinton? :roll:
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It may soon be illegal to talk about Wikileaks on forums

Postby Sixstrings » Fri 03 Dec 2010, 04:16:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')img]http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2010/12/lieberman.jpg[/img]
Lieberman Introduces Anti-WikiLeaks Legislation
Senator Joseph Lieberman and other lawmakers on Thursday introduced legislation that would make it a federal crime for anyone to publish the name of a U.S. intelligence source, in a direct swipe at the secret-spilling website WikiLeaks. (snip) The so-called SHIELD Act (Securing Human Intelligence and Enforcing Lawful Dissemination) would amend a section of the Espionage Act that already forbids publishing classified information on U.S. cryptographic secrets or overseas communications intelligence — i.e., wiretapping. The bill would extend that prohibition to information on HUMINT, human intelligence, making it a crime to publish information “concerning the identity of a classified source or informant of an element of the intelligence community of the United States,” or “concerning the human intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government” if such publication is prejudicial to U.S. interests.
Leaking such information in the first place is already a crime, so the measure is aimed squarely at publishers.

(snip) Lieberman’s proposed solution to WikiLeaks could have implications for journalists reporting on some of the more unsavory practices of the intelligence community. For example, former Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega was once a paid CIA asset. Would reporting that now be a crime?

The SHIELD Act is co-sponsored by senators John Ensign (R-NV) and Scott Brown (R-MA).
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/shield/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+wired/index+(Wired:+Index+3+(Top+Stories+2))&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

If I understand this right, this bill is aimed at anyone who publishes wikileaks stuff -- not just names, but also anything "concerning the human intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government." An internet forum is a form of publication -- so if this passes then conceivably, average folks could wind up in trouble just for talking about wikileaks.

Also, looks like Wikileaks is now gone for good in the US -- their domain name has been terminated:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]WikiLeaks.org Downed by Domain Hosting Service
WikiLeaks' main website could not be accessed on Friday through its WikiLeaks.org domain name after a subsidiary of Dynamic Network Services terminated its domain name service.
Dynamic Network Services' subsidiary, EveryDNS.net, terminated the WikiLeaks.org domain name because repeated DDOS (Distributed Denial of Service) attacks against WikiLeaks "have, and future attacks would, threaten the stability of the EveryDNS.net infrastructure, which enables access to almost 500,000 other websites," it said on its website.
EveryDNS.net said it notified WikiLeaks by email, Twitter and the chat function available through the WikiLeaks.org website that its domain name service would be terminated in 24-hours. That 24-hour period ended Dec. 2 at 10 p.m. Eastern Standard Time in the U.S.

(snip) The domain name service termination comes just days after Amazon Web Services stopped hosting WikiLeaks on its servers for breaking user rules saying that websites must use their own content and not carry data that might injure others. The U.S. Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, chaired by Senator Joe Lieberman, had also asked Amazon to stop hosting the controversial website.
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EDIT: Just noticed this --
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Scotland Yard 'will arrest wanted WikiLeaks boss today'
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Re: It may soon be illegal to talk about Wikileaks on forums

Postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 03 Dec 2010, 04:30:59

There is a world beyond America, you know...
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Re: It may soon be illegal to talk about Wikileaks on forums

Postby Sixstrings » Fri 03 Dec 2010, 04:37:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', 'T')here is a world beyond America, you know...


Yeah but peakoil.com is hosted in the US is it not?
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Re: It may soon be illegal to talk about Wikileaks on forums

Postby gollum » Fri 03 Dec 2010, 04:40:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', 'T')here is a world beyond America, you know...



Wikileaks was able to quickly relocate their server "The harder you squeeze the more star systems slip through your fingers"
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Re: It may soon be illegal to talk about Wikileaks on forums

Postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 03 Dec 2010, 04:50:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', 'Y')eah but peakoil.com is hosted in the US is it not?

This can also be addressed. Funny thing is that you (as American citizens) may not be allowed to discuss relevant national affairs and foreigners will do it freely.

It is resembling situation in China.
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Re: It may soon be illegal to talk about Wikileaks on forums

Postby Crazy_Dad » Fri 03 Dec 2010, 05:10:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gollum', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', 'T')here is a world beyond America, you know...


Wikileaks was able to quickly relocate their server "The harder you squeeze the more star systems slip through your fingers"


Ahh I love a good StarWars quote gollum :) A fellow SciFi addict I see.

I wonder if they would try and extradite me for saying anything on here? More worrisome is would my government play along. Probably.

You guys in the States have my sympathy - Orwell would be impressed by the speed at which your liberty has been taken.

By the way, that dude Leiberman (Doberman) looks a little like the evil Senator that brings down the Republic in StarWars. Could there be a prophecy in action? :lol:
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I say the Rebel Alliance is gaining strength.
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Re: It may soon be illegal to talk about Wikileaks on forums

Postby BlisteredWhippet » Fri 03 Dec 2010, 05:27:54

WHAT A DICK!

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WIKILEAKS: Free speech has a number: http://88.80.13.160
WIKILEAKS: Free speech has a number: http://88.80.13.160
WIKILEAKS: Free speech has a number: http://88.80.13.160
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This message was approved by Sack Joe Liebermann, Fascist Panderer.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')mendment I (Speech and Press)

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[Mr. Madison] The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish their sentiments; and the freedom of the press, as one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable."
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