[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he hard core teabaggers think these poor souls created their own problems

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he hard core teabaggers think these poor souls created their own problems

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o, how about a minimum wage of $16 hr, so poor people can make a living wage and won't have to rely on 'handouts'?

What's wrong with that?

Seems to be working in Australia.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', 'D')on't confuse hard core teabaggers with blue blood republicans.

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')re these people all going to vote for democrats? Because this is another core belief for the far right. Well who do you think is sitting home all day listening Rush? It's not people with fucking jobs. There are plenty of unemployed drunks, drug addicts, meth head child abusers, and petty criminals who love Rush Limbaugh and write those unhinged letters to the local paper about the "Demo-rats" and Sharia law. You think these people have jobs? No, they're on the government tit, shit faced on the prescription painkillers paid for by Medicare. And they are living in the reddest political areas, where life expectancy is dropping largely because they overdosing on Oxycontin and box wine

[PrestonSturges]

If you look at this map, you'd think it was a map of the Tea Party, but it's a map of declining life expectancy. Life expectancy is declining in areas with abysmally low high school graduation, and those area are the whitest and the most conservative.

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', 'I')f you look at this map, you'd think it was a map of the Tea Party, but it's a map of declining life expectancy. Life expectancy is declining in areas with abysmally low high school graduation, and those area are the whitest and the most conservative.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', '
')Better to die young then be a slave to statist.

[Plantagenet]

O is already borrowing money from china to pay SS benefits because current Ss taxes are inadequate to cover SS checks.

As more and more boomers retire the shortfall will grow to hundreds of billions of dollars of borrowing that will be needed


SS is a ponzu scheme--- there aren't enough assets to cover the promised payouts

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', ' ') Life expectancy is declining in areas with abysmally low high school graduation, and those area are the whitest and the most conservative.

[Lore]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', 'O') is already borrowing money from china to pay SS benefits because current Ss taxes are inadequate to cover SS checks.

As more and more boomers retire the shortfall will grow to hundreds of billions of dollars of borrowing that will be needed


SS is a ponzu scheme--- there aren't enough assets to cover the promised payouts

[vision-master]

Heck, we don't need no SS as all the working stiffs have nice pensions and $500,000 bank accounts to live on. Also, all those retires have homes paid for and $250,000 motor-coach's sitting in the driveways. They just lock up the 4,000 sq ft suburban estate and head South for the winter - ain't America grand!

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ayek was a bit of what we'd call a Libertarian but also definitely on the Koch brothers/Tea Party side of the equation that believes big money and big business can do no wrong, while any sort of trade union is an existential threat.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')My macro concern is private property rights, and personal liberty. I see the U.S. going in opposite directions to those two concerns everyday.

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')My macro concern is private property rights, and personal liberty. I see the U.S. going in opposite directions to those two concerns everyday.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you speaking in an esoteric way, Yeah I get it, but for my lifetime I would like to have the fruit of my labor not be solely at the whim of the crown. I'm also against slavery, so I don't want my labor to be taken from me and given to others with whom I have no contract.

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you speaking in an esoteric way, Yeah I get it, but for my lifetime I would like to have the fruit of my labor not be solely at the whim of the crown. I'm also against slavery, so I don't want my labor to be taken from me and given to others with whom I have no contract.

[PrestonSturges]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Plantagenet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrestonSturges', ' ') Life expectancy is declining in areas with abysmally low high school graduation, and those area are the whitest and the most conservative.

[PrestonSturges]

Here's more adorable lack of self awareness.....$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildbourgman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f you speaking in an esoteric way, Yeah I get it, but for my lifetime I would like to have the fruit of my labor not be solely at the whim of the crown. I'm also against slavery, so I don't want my labor to be taken from me and given to others with whom I have no contract.

[wildbourgman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ell as a matter of fact there were people here living a subsistence life style 200 years ago, but we killed them off with the government's blessing. Too bad for them they did not have a government to secure their property rights. As Rousseau pointed out, the main function of government in a democracy is to protect private property rights by preventing your neighbors from killing you in your sleep. But that comes with a price.