[strider3700]

Whats the big one in china? Some sort of routing issue messing up the reporting? I don't remember anyone stating that they are from china.

It looks like we have most of the 1st world population centers covered.

[Twilight]

Energy is not as politicised in Europe, and high taxes act to conceal underlying commodity cost increases. Therefore level of concern may be lower, even if awareness isn't. I think people are equally clued up or clueless, but they don't write to their political representatives or go on the internet to argue about it.

[jasmineflowers]

Thank you, all. I'm checking out all of your suggested resources.

Neopo, I PM'd you, but I'll go ahead and ask here. Where can I find Intentional Communities/Ecovillages? I'd love to connect with others, join, and relocate myself and my family as well. Thank you for your help.

I look forward to getting know everyone on this site.

[manu]

NEOPOL is right, the best chance is with a group of like minded people. I would get as many seeds as possible and start planting them somewhere. Mother Earth will take care of you. You can strain your water through cloth and boil it. Learn to start fires with something other than a bic lighter. Get as far away from the big cities as possible.

[Ayoob]

Yeah, ecovillages and composting and bean-growing are going to be very in-demand in the years to come. Excellent survival strategy.

[Aaron]

Who run Bartertown?

[billg]

Check out www.communitysolution.org. Use the Search function at the Fellowship for Intentional Communities website: www.ic.org. Also check out http://gen.ecovillage.org/

I imagine that at some point in the near future existing intentional communities with a high degree of self-sufficiency will start closing their doors to outsiders as a defensive strategy. Already, I'm sure they are becoming weary of newer people.

Among people who live in ecovillages, there is a feeling that people should decide to live sustainably, not because of the immediacy of the Peak Oil threat, but because it is the right thing to do, and it always was the right thing to do.

The people in the intentional communities movement are well aware of the Peak Oil issue. Diana Christian, the editor of Communities magazine and resident of Earthhaven, has done a superb job of getting the word about Peak Oil out. She devoted an entire issue to the subject.

Bill

[billg]

I should qualify my last remark. Existing ecovillages are still highly dependant on the mainstream corporate world for a lot of stuff...tractor parts, computers, mattresses, food, medicine, you name it. In order to survive in a post peak world, existing ecovillages will need to seek out and forge new connections in their local neighborhoods. Likewise, outsiders will turn to them for guidance and they will become the focal points of larger communities.

Ecovillages will expand in scope by necessity as more expensive energy compels localization of all essential services and goods.

So even if you can't become a member of your ecovillage of choice, becoming a neighbor may be just as good.

[gnm]

To all eco-village participants... Please provide coordinates and list supplies, weapons and alternative energy equipment you expect to have so that the horde can more efficiently choose targets. If devastation and razing is not desired I am sure a suitable tribute plan can be worked out.

Thanks,

-G

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('billg', 'C')heck out www.communitysolution.org. Use the Search function at the Fellowship for Intentional Communities website: www.ic.org. Also check out http://gen.ecovillage.org/

I imagine that at some point in the near future existing intentional communities with a high degree of self-sufficiency will start closing their doors to outsiders as a defensive strategy. Already, I'm sure they are becoming weary of newer people.

Among people who live in ecovillages, there is a feeling that people should decide to live sustainably, not because of the immediacy of the Peak Oil threat, but because it is the right thing to do, and it always was the right thing to do.

The people in the intentional communities movement are well aware of the Peak Oil issue. Diana Christian, the editor of Communities magazine and resident of Earthhaven, has done a superb job of getting the word about Peak Oil out. She devoted an entire issue to the subject.

Bill

[james11]

I have been reading the forms for about 2 years now ever since I read the book "The Long Emergency". I thought I would introduce myself and ask I few questions.

I live in Vancouver and I'm 17yo, I will be graduating in about a month. After school I'm planing on taking a year off and working to make some money and then going back to school and apprenticing in some sort of trade. I was thinking of going into masonry as to me this seems like it would still be a viable career post peak,what do you think? I'm hoping that the Shit doesn't hit the fan atleast for a few years so I can build up some assets and prepare myself. My long term goal (if time is on my side) is to work as a journeyman for mabye 5/6 years and live in the most frugal manner possible in order to save money and buy a house in the mid-north of B.C or Alberta. Once I have a house with 10-20 acres I think I'm set but I'm just not sure if I have time to do this?

So, I would like other peoples opinions on what they would do or what route they would take if they were in my situation?

Thanks for any help!

[NEOPO]

Homesteading may suffice yet after some deep thought we became much more comfortable with the idea of Intentional Community

Like you, I hope to be able to work for the next few years and invest it all into sustainability yet who really knows when the financial SHTF.

Ultimately we came to the conclusion that "saving our own buttocks" was far from the only reason to powerdown and do the right thing.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

[Pops]

Hi Jasmine, welcome.

Lots of folk in this thread seem to be directing you along the commune route. While I have no quarrel with that plan for those so disposed, I just wanted to interject that there are many other routes being explored in the Planning Forum.

And as was mentioned, we aren’t running out of anything soon except CHEAP energy - IMHumbleO.

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'H')i Jasmine, welcome.

Lots of folk in this thread seem to be directing you along the commune route. While I have no quarrel with that plan for those so disposed, I just wanted to interject that there are many other routes being explored in the Planning Forum.

And as was mentioned, we aren’t running out of anything soon except CHEAP energy - IMHumbleO.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'S')o when we run out of cheap energy we will still have everything else Pops? Don't you watch "24" and Jericho!?
I am joking and yes there are many potential solutions.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'S')o when we run out of cheap energy we will still have everything else Pops? Don't you watch "24" and Jericho!?
I am joking and yes there are many potential solutions.

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'S')o when we run out of cheap energy we will still have everything else Pops? Don't you watch "24" and Jericho!?
I am joking and yes there are many potential solutions.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'N')ow tell me WTF is a CNFDH please

[NEOPO]

Ah, So that is how acronyms are born yet if it only sounded like a real word hmmm

Crazy ass Naked ass Fire Dancing ass Hippy?...CaNaF'DaH!

[Pops]

Sorry Jasmine, we do go on so.

Just a mater of survival I guess.

[sub]I kind of like the full version myself, NEO; Crazy Ass Fire Dancing Hippy kind of rolls off the tongue, don't you think?

I wouldn’t mention that to any of my Ozarker neighbors though, no telling where I might wake up!
[/sub]