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Re: Flood

Postby Armageddon » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 21:38:12

The entire book of Isiah was found when they discovered the dead sea scrolls. They predated the council of nisea by hundreds of years. So you make the decision. Isiah had several prophecies regarding Jesus.
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Re: Flood

Postby Lokutus » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:00:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'T')he entire book of Isiah was found when they discovered the dead sea scrolls. They predated the council of nisea by hundreds of years. So you make the decision. Isiah had several prophecies regarding Jesus.


Are you sure they were about JC? Why don't Jews then accept thsi as proof of JC's divinity?

Here's wiki on Isaiah:


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')hapters 24-34, while too complex to characterize easily, are primarily concerned with prophecies of a "Messiah," a person anointed or given power by God, and of the Messiah's kingdom, where justice and righteousness will reign. This section is seen by Jews as describing an actual king, a descendant of their great king, David, who will make Judah a great kingdom and Jerusalem a truly holy city. It is traditionally seen by Christians as describing Jesus, who was, according to Christian genealogy, descended from David, and who began a non-political kingdom of justice which will one day encompass the whole earth. A number of modern scholars believe that it describes, in somewhat idealized terms, King Hezekiah, who was a descendant of David, and who tried to make Jerusalem into a holy city.


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Like I said, the word "messiah" was mistranslated.
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Re: Flood

Postby Armageddon » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:05:10

One of the main reasons the Jews rejected Jesus was because they thought because of their special relationship with God, they didnt need a redeamer in Christ. They didnt think they needed anyone to die for their sins. They were a haughty people, and very stiff necked. This is why god later rejected them as His people.
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Re: Flood

Postby Lokutus » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:08:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'O')ne of the main reasons the Jews rejected Jesus was because they thought because of their special relationship with God, they didnt need a redeamer in Christ. They didnt think they needed anyone to die for their sins. They were a haughty people, and very stiff necked. This is why god later rejected them as His people.



Dude, step away from the bong!!!!

God rejected them???

Who told you this?

Do you know what "The Chosen People" means????
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Re: Flood

Postby Armageddon » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:08:39

Jesus also didnt fit the mold as to what they were looking for in a Messiah. They knew his parents, and didnt think their Messiah would come from their own town, which was prophesied that he would come from Bethlehem. The apostles tried to make him king right then, anf they failed at the time to realize he was to be put to death.

John 3:16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.
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Re: Flood

Postby Lokutus » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:11:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'J')esus also didnt fit the mold as to what they were looking for in a Messiah. They knew his parents, and didnt think their Messiah would come from their own town, which was prophesied that he would come from Bethlehem. The apostles tried to make him king right then, anf they failed at the time to realize he was to be put to death.

John 3:16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.


Christ on a cracker with cheese, son. Quoting the fucking bible to prove that the bible is correct is called "circular logic".

It's like claiming that Batman is real because Batman comic books say he's real.

It's like trying to talk to a radio.
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Re: Flood

Postby Armageddon » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:12:55

I was explaining to you as to why the Jews rejected him.
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Re: Flood

Postby Armageddon » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:13:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'O')ne of the main reasons the Jews rejected Jesus was because they thought because of their special relationship with God, they didnt need a redeamer in Christ. They didnt think they needed anyone to die for their sins. They were a haughty people, and very stiff necked. This is why god later rejected them as His people.



Dude, step away from the bong!!!!

God rejected them???

Who told you this?

Do you know what "The Chosen People" means????


Do you want the scriptures that show He rejected them ?
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Re: Flood

Postby Lokutus » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:17:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'I') was explaining to you as to why the Jews rejected him.



The Jews rejected him because they were there--unlike you. They saw him as a man. (Let's not even get into the controversy if he even existed as a man.)

According to the recently discovered Gospel of Thomas, old JC wasbut a man. A hippie-ish time of man who would have traveled around in a 1969 VW microbus with a handpainted rainbow design covering it.

I actually trust the Gospel of Thomas more than all the rest and can understand why it was suppressed for so long. According to it, man had no need for a church as he could commune directly with god.
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Re: Flood

Postby Lokutus » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:20:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'O')ne of the main reasons the Jews rejected Jesus was because they thought because of their special relationship with God, they didnt need a redeamer in Christ. They didnt think they needed anyone to die for their sins. They were a haughty people, and very stiff necked. This is why god later rejected them as His people.



Dude, step away from the bong!!!!

God rejected them???

Who told you this?

Do you know what "The Chosen People" means????


Do you want the scriptures that show He rejected them ?


Not really. I find biblical quotes tedious and meaningless because the godbots can always find some passage which appears to back whatever nonsense they are pushing. The book is little more than contradictions and embarrasing errors about the world.
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Re: Flood

Postby Armageddon » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:22:23

Matthew 23:37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent forth to her,—how often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks together under her wings! But YOU people did not want it. 38 Look! YOUR house is abandoned to YOU.

This is evident by the Romans destroying Jerusalem in 70 CE, killing millions of Jews, destroying the temple. The temple mount is now a Mosque. They no longer have God's backing. Jesus was converting the Jews such as Saul ( Paul ) to be Christians.
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Re: Flood

Postby Armageddon » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:24:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'I') was explaining to you as to why the Jews rejected him.



The Jews rejected him because they were there--unlike you. They saw him as a man. (Let's not even get into the controversy if he even existed as a man.)

According to the recently discovered Gospel of Thomas, old JC wasbut a man. A hippie-ish time of man who would have traveled around in a 1969 VW microbus with a handpainted rainbow design covering it.

I actually trust the Gospel of Thomas more than all the rest and can understand why it was suppressed for so long. According to it, man had no need for a church as he could commune directly with god.


Sounds like your hero.
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Re: Flood

Postby Lokutus » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:25:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'O')ne of the main reasons the Jews rejected Jesus was because they thought because of their special relationship with God, they didnt need a redeamer in Christ. They didnt think they needed anyone to die for their sins. They were a haughty people, and very stiff necked. This is why god later rejected them as His people.



Dude, step away from the bong!!!!

God rejected them???

Who told you this?

Do you know what "The Chosen People" means????


Do you want the scriptures that show He rejected them ?


Not really. I find biblical quotes tedious and meaningless because the godbots can always find some passage which appears to back whatever nonsense they are pushing. The book is little more than contradictions and embarrasing errors about the world.


This is also why Hank is more credible than buybull gawd. Hank is unequivocal in his communications:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'K')iss my ass and I will give you a million dollars when you leave town. If you don't kiss my ass, I will kick the shit out of you.
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Re: Flood

Postby Lokutus » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:27:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'I') was explaining to you as to why the Jews rejected him.



The Jews rejected him because they were there--unlike you. They saw him as a man. (Let's not even get into the controversy if he even existed as a man.)

According to the recently discovered Gospel of Thomas, old JC wasbut a man. A hippie-ish time of man who would have traveled around in a 1969 VW microbus with a handpainted rainbow design covering it.

I actually trust the Gospel of Thomas more than all the rest and can understand why it was suppressed for so long. According to it, man had no need for a church as he could commune directly with god.


Sounds like your hero.


Naw, not by a mile. The best thing I can say about this particular version of JC is that he's by far the least repellant of the hundreds of other versions of him.
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Re: Flood

Postby Lokutus » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:30:24

On the JC of the Gospel of Thomas:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he similarities between the two gospels are remarkable, as much for what they do not say as for what they do. Like Jefferson's gospel, Thomas's ignores the virgin birth. Thomas's Jesus never performs a miracle, never calls himself the Son of God, and never claims that he will have to die for the sins of humankind. Instead he tells parables, he issues instructions, and, most alarmingly, he locates the kingdom of God in that one place we might never look—right in front of us.

On the topics of sin, sacrifice, and salvation—the real Trinity of mainline Christianity—Thomas's Jesus, like Jefferson's, is silent. In fact, what we find in the Gospel of Thomas is not really Christianity at all. There is no attempt in the Gospel of Thomas to tell the "story" of Jesus, and there certainly is no inkling of some impending Day of Judgment. Instead, Thomas offers a collection of 114 "sayings" that Jesus is remembered to have delivered in the presence of his followers and before anonymous crowds. These were compiled under the name of Thomas and were circulated throughout Syria among a group that scholars now call the Jesus movement.


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Re: Flood

Postby Lokutus » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:45:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'J')esus helped everybody. He was also against warfare, so he wouldnt have supported either party.


You must have a different bible from mine. In mine he's really into helping the poor and disenfranchised.

A rich man will no sooner get into heaven than a camel shall passeth through the eye of a needle.


He was stating a parable showing how difficult it would be to get into the kingdom. It had nothing to do with the individual rich or poor person. this is the problem with people and the bible, they take everything out of context.


Wrong again.

From the Gospel of Thomas:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his Jesus is especially hard on the rich. As in the canonical Gospels, he says that a man cannot serve two masters and that the poor will be the first to find the kingdom of God. He warns against lending with interest. He tells the parable of the rich man whose friends were too preoccupied to come to dinner, and so he sent his servants out to "bring back whomever you find."

But unlike Matthew and Luke, Thomas ends his story with this damning line: "Buyers and merchants [will] not enter the places of my father."


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Re: Flood

Postby Armageddon » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:47:56

The reason people deny God is because they dont want to be accountable for their actions. They want to live their life the way they want to, and not be told what to do. People think that listening to God has restrictions. But these restrictions are to benefit humans. Think of it like driving down the road with no stop lights. It would be chaos. God gives laws for our benefit, not His. If people would obey the 10 commandments, just think how much more pleasant life would be. No killings, no crooks, no liars, no sleeping around on your spouse etc. Aids , VD, herpes, syphillis etc wouldnt plague mankind. Abortions wouldnt be so rampant. etc.
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Re: Flood

Postby Lokutus » Sat 13 Jan 2007, 22:50:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'T')he reason people deny God is because they dont want to be accountable for their actions. They want to live their life the way they want to, and not be told what to do. People think that listening to God has restrictions. But these restrictions are to benefit humans. Think of it like driving down the road with no stop lights. It would be chaos. God gives laws for our benefit, not His. If people would obey the 10 commandments, just think how much more pleasant life would be. No killings, no crooks, no liars, no sleeping around on your spouse etc. Aids , VD, herpes, syphillis etc wouldnt plague mankind. Abortions wouldnt be so rampant. etc.


The level of pure unadulterated log-rolling horseshit in this post is is mindboggling.

I can't go on when you respond with nothing but bullshit.

Come back when you finally comprehend what circular logic is.
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Re: Flood

Postby AWPrime » Sun 14 Jan 2007, 06:56:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'T')he reason people deny God is because they dont want to be accountable for their actions. They want to live their life the way they want to, and not be told what to do. People think that listening to God has restrictions. But these restrictions are to benefit humans. Think of it like driving down the road with no stop lights. It would be chaos. God gives laws for our benefit, not His. If people would obey the 10 commandments, just think how much more pleasant life would be. No killings, no crooks, no liars, no sleeping around on your spouse etc. Aids , VD, herpes, syphillis etc wouldnt plague mankind. Abortions wouldnt be so rampant. etc.

Too bad for you, that secular countries do better in those areas.
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Re: Flood

Postby MD » Sun 14 Jan 2007, 08:05:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')he answer is simple. Just don't believe it. But you have issues and anger. Drop it, let it go. It doesn't concern you.


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