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Re: LeftWing Liberal Shoots Congresswoman Gifford

Unread postby deMolay » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 13:15:49

Again a quote from someone who knew him personally. http://twitter.com/caitieparker/status/ ... 876589057#
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Re: LeftWing Liberal Shoots Congresswoman Gifford

Unread postby deMolay » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 13:18:26

From Link: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '@')antderosa As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy.
about 20 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to antderosa

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Re: LeftWing Liberal Shoots Congresswoman Gifford

Unread postby PrestonSturges » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 13:29:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('deMolay', 'P')reston you Momma's boy, I posted the National Socialist 25 point plan in full, in a link, and partially to show how NAZIism is Socialism. You bandy words like a RITALIN soaked Momma's boy, your mewling is getting you no were.
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You just posted the 11 through 23 and cut off the stuff about religious freedom, deporting immigrants, and forcing people to work. And it's not a "plan," it's a party platform. Which hardly even begins to describe Nazism anyway, since it doesn't describe the role of the executive (wartime dictator).
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Re: LeftWing Liberal Shoots Congresswoman Gifford

Unread postby nobodypanic » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 14:03:44

those of you trying to equate nazism to communism are either complete idiots or typical fox-news right-wing propagandists, which on further reflection amounts to the same thing.
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RightWing nutjob murders a 7 year old child & shoots senator

Unread postby 2cher » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 14:21:30

Yes, this is a completely different topic. Because this guy was in no way shape or form a liberal.

This idiot was anti government, a gun owner, hated jews, mexicans, and black people * part of a white supremacist group
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')epartment of Homeland Security is investigating Jared Loughner the Arizona shooter for having direct ties to a group called American Renaissance a right wing anti-Semite, anti-government group that supports the Tea Party cause and has Tea Party HQ advertising on its website.

-- http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47308.html


100% pure libertarian and a nut job.

He also supported the tea baggers.

This guy is about as liberal as Glen Beck
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Re: RightWing nutjob murders a 7 year old child & shoots sen

Unread postby TheAntiDoomer » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 14:25:01

Thank you for starting this thread. deleted
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Re: LeftWing Liberal Shoots Congresswoman Gifford

Unread postby felmetk » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 14:39:33

gentleman, can't you see that this vitriol is the problem? The poor fellow was crazy. His ideology was jumbled. There's no sense in blaming sides. Blame belongs to any one who has promoted violence and hatred over respectful civil discourse.

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Re: RightWing nutjob murders a 7 year old child & shoots sen

Unread postby Cloud9 » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 14:53:47

Same response different thread. I wonder if any of you have thought out this desperate need by some to uncover some diabolical scheme and link this tragedy to the right wing conservatives? Recognize it for what it is. The under current of this passion is a psychological need to paint conservatives as evil, as an enemy of the state. The underlying wish here is for the state to do something about those evil right wingers.

History has shown us that the first step in the rush towards genocide is the psychological process of dehumanizing the target population. It is necessary to depict them as evil, as less than human. Only after this thought process has been successfully completed can the mind justify the coming atrocity.

Reason has no place in this process. It is purely emotional. Making logical factual arguments is spitting in the wind. I know this but I must try, for if the better angles of our nature fail and the Tea Party and its supporters are successfully depicted as enemies of the state, the result will be genocide and civil war.


First off, nut cases are not unique to the right. Here you have a teacher’s union praying for the death of a governor.

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-04-09/us/t ... s?_s=PM:US

Second, it is a stretch to connect this idiot to any particular political persuasion. In fact, a review of his rants reveals an individual that plays with logic traps. He admires both the communists and the fascists.

Third, gun abolitionists must get a grip. This nation was born out of an attempt on the part of the central government to disarm the population. The current government exists because of that struggle. Any attempt to disarm the citizens of the United States would be illegitimate and would spark a revolution.

Fourth, the current government has little to fear from small arms. There are hundreds of combat aircraft that are privately owned. Private citizens are flying around the country in heavy bombers. There are hundreds of artillery pieces that are privately owned. There are thousands of legally owned machine guns in private hands. There are millions of privately owned rifles, shotguns and pistols in circulation. All of this fire power has resulted in precious little mayhem. It is simply impossible to round up and confiscate all of these weapons. Millions will be hidden and the attempt will spark a revolution.

Fifth, the most successful weapon deployed against our military and our civilian population in the last thirty years has not been a firearm of any sort. It has been an improvised explosive device. Tim McVeigh has been the most successful of our home grown terrorists. His weapon of choice was a truck load of fertilizer.

These devices are manufactured using common household items. Their components are so common and necessary to our everyday lives they are impossible to regulate. Unless you are willing to confiscate every outhouse, lock up every pound of sugar, and eliminate iron rust, the potential to build bombs will always be with us.

Gun confiscation is a placebo given to a frightened population by a power seeking politician. Playing in to his scheme will plunge the nation into the heart of darkness.
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Re: RightWing nutjob murders a 7 year old child & shoots sen

Unread postby eXpat » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 15:24:03

WTF!, check the video in the link.
Westboro Baptists Vow to Picket Funerals of AZ Shooting Victims
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '')God sent the shooter,” Westboro Baptist Church‘s Fred Phelps remarked in a new video posted online after Saturday’s tragic shooting played out in Tucscon, Ariz.
Through his own twisted logic, Phelps believes that Jared Loughner was sent by God to commit senseless murder, including the killing of 9-year-old Christina Taylor Greene:

Greene’s family says she was vibrant, excited about life, and she was the “best daughter in the world.”

Born September 11, 2001, Greene was excited about the political process, was on the student government, and went to the Giffords event Saturday to learn more about the political process, family members say.

link: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/westboro-baptists-vow-to-picket-funerals-of-az-shooting-victims/
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Re: RightWing nutjob murders a 7 year old child & shoots sen

Unread postby Cloud9 » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 15:27:41

If you think this guy speaks for millions of conservatives then you are nuts. If you think God gives a s**t about this you are a bigger nut.
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Re: RightWing nutjob murders a 7 year old child & shoots sen

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 15:41:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'I')f you think this guy speaks for millions of conservatives then you are nuts

Fox and DHS speak (and conservative-think) for millions of conservatives:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')ew details emerging about the suspected shooter behind Saturday's deadly rampage reveal a 22-year-old man with a troubled past who law enforcement say may have been influenced by American Renaissance, a pro-white publication.

A law enforcement memo based on information provided by the Department of Homeland Security and obtained by Fox News suggests that alleged gunman Jared Loughner -- accused of killing six people, shooting Arizona Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and wounding 12 others -- may have ties to the American Renaissance group, though it's unclear if he was directly affiliated with the publication or group.

The Southern Poverty Law Center describes the group as "white nationalist" whose leader, Jared Taylor, is "a kind of modern-day version of the refined but racist colonialist of old."

The memo states that there is "no direct connection" between Loughner and the group, "but strong suspicion is being directed at AmRen / American Renaissance. Suspect is possibly linked to this group. (through videos posted on his MySpace and YouTube account.). The group's ideology is anti-government, anti-immigration, anti-ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government), anti-Semitic."

EDIT: BTW, Fox says:a pro-white publication. Do they also say "pro-Gentile".
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Re: Arizona Congresswoman Shot in Head

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 15:45:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'W')e all know that Jihadists are mindless fanatics who murder innocents. They cannot be reasoned with. They are machines. They turn their children into guided missiles. They have turned the womb into a weapons factory. They are less than human. They are cockroaches.

Good description of the murderers in the collateralmurder video.
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Re: Arizona Congresswoman Shot in Head

Unread postby Cloud9 » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 16:45:49

The point was that this is the mentality that supports genocide. The cockroach reference was chosen for a reason it was the term used by the Rwandan media to dehumanize their victims. The whole effort to hook this guy in with a group supports a specific political agenda.

More guns and funding for one side meanwhile the nation is further ripped apart. The sad thing is this lady possessed some veiws conservatives can endorse. As I see it. Her wounding is a lose for my side.
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Re: Arizona Congresswoman Shot in Head

Unread postby Serial_Worrier » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 17:17:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'T')he point was that this is the mentality that supports genocide. The cockroach reference was chosen for a reason it was the term used by the Rwandan media to dehumanize their victims. The whole effort to hook this guy in with a group supports a specific political agenda.

More guns and funding for one side meanwhile the nation is further ripped apart. The sad thing is this lady possessed some veiws conservatives can endorse. As I see it. Her wounding is a lose for my side.


One thing for sure. Sarah Palin's career is OVER now. She will be shunned by all mainstream Republicans from now on, Fox News will not have her the air. She better just go back to Wasilla and hide.
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Re: Arizona Congresswoman Shot in Head

Unread postby Carlhole » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 17:20:26

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespoling/5338209484/

Yeah, schizophrenia has a lot to do with politics. Right!
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Re: Arizona Congresswoman Shot in Head

Unread postby Cog » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 17:44:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cloud9', 'T')he point was that this is the mentality that supports genocide. The cockroach reference was chosen for a reason it was the term used by the Rwandan media to dehumanize their victims. The whole effort to hook this guy in with a group supports a specific political agenda.

More guns and funding for one side meanwhile the nation is further ripped apart. The sad thing is this lady possessed some veiws conservatives can endorse. As I see it. Her wounding is a lose for my side.


One thing for sure. Sarah Palin's career is OVER now. She will be shunned by all mainstream Republicans from now on, Fox News will not have her the air. She better just go back to Wasilla and hide.


Why would you ever make such a ridiculous statement? You must be one of those who have already forgotten about the results of the mid-term elections or perhaps doesn't want to remember them. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Arizona Congresswoman Shot in Head

Unread postby Arthur75 » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 18:09:57

Yeah don't think this will affect Palin in any way, the more it goes, the more it appears that the guy is some kind of anarchist that attacked the representative of political power where he was living, full stop
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Re: Arizona Congresswoman Shot in Head

Unread postby deMolay » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 18:28:36

To Pstarr, where was my breach of decency. Calling Preston a Momma's Boy? Or pointing out that NAZI's are Socialists with facts? PStarr Quote $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'd')eMolay, same goes for you. You cross the line and you will be booted from this place. Not by the COC, but by us, the members for breach of decency.
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Re: Arizona Congresswoman Shot in Head

Unread postby Carlhole » Sun 09 Jan 2011, 18:39:42

Jared Loughner's behavior recorded by college classmate in e-mails

This guy is obviously mentally ill. Way bad.

How anyone can construe his actions as political ideology is just effing crazy. He doesn't have enough brains for that, one way or the other.

But nevertheless, he was able to buy a Glock from Sportsman's Warehouse.
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