[Devin]

Why? Don't give him an "out" -- I'm not lending any legitimacy to his concepts of race until he supports them. So far I've seen no sources cited, no sample sizes or standard deviations for the statistics given, and a whole lot of bullshit and fact-dodging in his posts RE the holocaust. As others have said, all this bullshit about race and eugenics just sounds like thinly veiled hatred based on ignorance to me.

Waiting, Jerry.



if he does respond, inb4 dodge after dodge -- "burden of proof is on you", red herrings, etc.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Devin', ':')o Wow! Someone who believes that black people have smaller brains! (Forgive my excitement, I've never had the privilege to meet anyone with that particular brand of stupid before. ) See: "Scientific" racism.

Eugenicists, cornucopians, and 19th century ethnologists oh my! The peak oil forums are a strange place.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Devin', '[')smilie=eusa_doh.gif] TERRIBLE. WHY DID THAT MAKE ME LAUGH.


Also, I did some research on Jerry... lol this guy is a white nationalist who thinks the burden of proof for the holocaust is on the Jews.

I better see some SERIOUS rigor for that data. Including controls for socioeconomic status, nutrition, and any other potentially conflating variables. I will be astounded if he has it.

[Devin]

I find implying that I am unfamiliar with the arabic numeral system an odd return to the demand for some substantiated statistics. Linking to a 784 page book while ignoring the request for sources cited on the statistics already shown is quite simply appalling. If you would like to cite this book as a source and provide some data from that book that meets basic standards of scientific rigor, be my guest. Otherwise you're just wasting my and everyone's time.


Also, are you Jerry? I find it... odd, yet again... that you would respond twice to me when I've directed comments only to Jerry. Jerry's a pretty cool customer for a white nationalist and I'm beginning to wonder if he doesn't have another account for whenever he needs to be disparaging. Maybe I'm wrong though and you're just his boyfriend.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Devin', 'I') find implying that I am unfamiliar with the arabic numeral system an odd return to the demand for some substantiated statistics. Linking to a 784 page book while ignoring the request for sources cited on the statistics already shown is quite simply appalling. If you would like to cite this book as a source and provide some data from that book that meets basic standards of scientific rigor, be my guest. Otherwise you're just wasting my and everyone's time.

[BigTex]

Devin, as a primer you should read this thread. It will give you a better feel for the territory. This one is also kind of a classic--it's hard to describe other than to say it's pretty raw and you are likely to cringe a few times:

Any Blacks on PO.com?

[BlisteredWhippet]

These thoughts are perhaps too uneasy for the likes of this website.

But the fact remains that differences abound. The genome is fully integrating. The jewel of civilization might just be the inadvertent creation of

A: "Super-Humans", because of the unprecedented opportunity for a genetic reshuffling of traits.

and

B: A population crisis cresting the same time as the technology needed to cull it.

and

C: Gene therapies sophisticated enough to eliminate genetic problems and improve upon the functioning and ability of the organism.

The trend toward "merging" of the races, is, I think inevitable as much as irreversible. The conviction from which racial thinking generates is the R-brain subsystem. The R-Brain has been keeping "us" down for millenia. Its that irritating, won't go away part of our brain that overpowers our higher-order thoughts. Its the tail that wags the dog.

I think here that perhaps an r-brain is necessary to deal with other r-brains. Leading to the corrolary:

1. If the r-brian is deactivated, r-society must also be deactivated.

More ammunition for a scenario where a mass cull needs to be performed. Society or culture, as we know it, must be deactivated, since these are largely functionary elements of the relationships between r-brains. Will post-humans need "pets" as so many r-brained homonids do?

My own intuition is that having a human as a pet would be not bad, although a post-human's rationale for such indulgent egoism seems unlikely, without an r-brain to facilitate the random firing of neural networks that masquerade as "feelings".

Even so, a human might actually like being fed, stroked, and pampered all day long. It would probably invoke a blissful sense of peace and serenity into most people. We already express all instincts in this direction.

An enhanced-brain post-human without an r-brain is going to be experiencing states of awareness and emotion that contemporary people aren't going to be able to fathom. I can only describe it in the clumsiest, infantile forms: People will be really, really, really happy. Its going to be a "load off" for the brain without the trappings of evolution constantly in the picture.

But, in losing r-brains, will we be losing "our minds"? I think not. Our mental state is going to be better than ever. People flail through modern life rushing from one crisis or disaster to the next, only to find the joke's on them, that, for all their worrying, the reality wasn't so bad. The thing that's jerking our chain is our old, hardwired circuitry. Drug and non-drug therapies prove that that stuff is like a chronic infection of the mind. Its treatable but always present. Its an artifact of the order of the Universe and Biochemistry, but "we" don't need "it".

Its clear to me that intelligence was incarnated by the universe and the logical and proper use of it is a justification of its own ends. It supercedes logic, emotion, and morality. Intelligence, radically adaptive intelligence most of all, doesn't in itself exist to prove anyone's theories or arguments. And its preeminence in our physiology, its successes, and its revelations tell me that its works are not subject to a historical revision.

In the future, the history books will say, there were some people who were smart(er), then something happened, then there were a group of smarter people who then devoted themselves to becoming even smarter, etc.... until we come to some limiting factor far in the future. And by that time I imagine that none of those humans will look like us except superficially. And we wouldn't have a clue as to where to start identifying with commonalities of their experience, either emotional, logical, or spiritual, because, well, we'll be the Cro-Magnon. Our words, our social structures will be as alien to them as a monkey's world is to our own.

pushthebuttonpleasenow.

[Devin]

Ah, thanks for the link, BigTex. I had no idea there were that many Klannies on PO.com. I wonder what that's all about.


Pretorian, it's nice for you to come out and say that you have zero credibility. I appreciate the directness on your part. Meanwhile jerry is nowhere to be found.

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Devin', 'A')h, thanks for the link, BigTex. I had no idea there were that many Klannies on PO.com. I wonder what that's all about.


Pretorian, it's nice for you to come out and say that you have zero credibility. I appreciate the directness on your part. Meanwhile jerry is nowhere to be found.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')1) White women who like black cock;
2) White gay men, whether they like black cock or not;
3) Jews and Part-Jews, whether they belong to previous 2 categories or not;

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pretorian', '
')1) White women who like black cock;
2) White gay men, whether they like black cock or not;
3) Jews and Part-Jews, whether they belong to previous 2 categories or not;

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', '
')no, it's pathetic.