[Newfie]

OTOH, if you have the biggest gun in town don't you WANT people to know it and fear it and bow before you?

Why is it necessary that the perpetrators be unknown? Maybe they will be WANT to be known.

"Yeah we killed millions/billions, and we can do it again. Now shut up and lick my boot."

I think it is more likely to be some wacko religious sect that says"
"See what God hath wrought for your misdeeds!!!! Repent!!!! and lick my boot."

Cheerio then, I'm off to church now where I must preside over the service and then participate in our annual fund raiser.

[evilgenius]

Anyone who has read my posts knows that I think that the world is being set up for nuclear war. I don't think that because it is a conspiracy, but because it is obvious that if you remove the US from the demand side of the equation there is enough oil to reach a period wherein those left can figure things out with less pressure placed upon their decisions. Add in the technology for population control and tracking that exists today and place it in the hands of the winners and you can begin to see how the gamble could pay off.

My prediction for awhile has been that the temptation to cross over this particular Khyber Pass will prove too much for Vladimir Putin and that he will strike when the US recession is deepest.

As far as the New World Order goes, I reckon it will be destroyed along with so much else.

Importantly the US will in all likelihood not be totally destroyed by a surprise first attack. They will reorganize and try to fight back. They probably won't launch a reprisal nuclear strike, seeing as how the silos will be gone and they will need their Navy and Airforce to try and keep control of the Persian Gulf. Even the boomers will be committed to the task of strategic control rather than reprisal.

This is my doomsday scenario. It doesn't have to happen. It may not even be probable that it will happen. Any number of things could catapult the world in any other direction. I think it is plausible enough that it does bear thinking about, however.

[Ludi]

I'm not convinced a "surprise attack" is possible these days. Not a nuclear surprise attack anyway.

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'O')TOH, if you have the biggest gun in town don't you WANT people to know it and fear it and bow before you?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'W')hat roles would the clergy assume or attempt to assume in a die0ff situation?

[Newfie]

[quote What roles would the clergy assume or attempt to assume in a die0ff situation?[/quote]

Jim Jones

Koresh

The Hevan's Gate guy from LA

What role did they assume?

They started the die off and joined it. That is why I believe that the perpetrators being found out is of no consequence.

Remember Slim Pickens from Dr. Strangelove? Riding the bomb down?

[BlisteredWhippet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', 'O')TOH, if you have the biggest gun in town don't you WANT people to know it and fear it and bow before you?

Why is it necessary that the perpetrators be unknown? Maybe they will be WANT to be known.

[BlisteredWhippet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Newfie', '[')quote What roles would the clergy assume or attempt to assume in a die0ff situation?

[BlisteredWhippet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'m not convinced a "surprise attack" is possible these days. Not a nuclear surprise attack anyway.

[Ferretlover]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', 'W')hat roles would the clergy assume or attempt to assume in a die0ff situation?

[Jenab6]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jboogy', 'T')here's one very big problem with bio-weapons, and thankfully TPTB have been thoroughly de-briefed and convinced of it's danger. Cells mutate, and no one knows the potentially devastating consequences that could be unleashed were engineered viruses to be released.
How can you be assured of containing a virus that starts mutating and decides to go airborne? "I am legend" scenario would be a very real possibility.
All the major powers have natural and engineered "superbugs" in their labs, that's a given. But, they are there to be transported and released in rival countries, only in the event that your own population is being decimated due to either natural plague or as a response to a 1st strike biological attack. No-one will 1st strike with communicable plague. The blowback is truly unknowable in scale of both numbers and virulence.
I can conceive of sufficient evil in our elected leaders that would make such an option thinkable, were it not for the potential unintended consequences. But only a severly psychotic schizoid, would risk his own neck in order to reduce the worlds population.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'T')here's such a thing as an ethnic bomb.

[Homesteader]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', '<')/div>
There's such a thing as an ethnic bomb. An engineered virus that requires its hosts' DNA to have a special submolecular feature which is unique to a targeted race. The Chinese are rumored to have targeted non-Asian races with gene-specific viruses. The US government probably has a viral counterstrike capability. The Israelis are rumored to have developed an anti-Arab virus. There is a danger that an ethnic virus might mutate into a generally human infectious state, losing its racial specificity. But if the original, non-mutated virus were short-lived inside humans who could carry it without harm, then the risk of mutation could be reduced into something a major power might accept.[/quote]

Any kind of Link?

[Ludi]

http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/reports/zilin.htm

[auscanman]

There's no way bio-engineered weapons will be used, because, as previously mentioned by many posters, it would probably lead to the eradication of just about everyone.

Culling a billion or so people, by whatever means, would have almost no long term appreciable effect. The global population will quickly increase to its carrying capacity, and within 15-20 years the global population will be at the same level it would have been without the culling.

To really reduce population effectively, you'd want to make a substantial chunk of the existing population infertile. If sperm counts in the west are any indication, this seems to be happening gradually. There are plenty of things governments could use to achieve this... pyridine in trace quantities being one of the most effective.

[Jenab6]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('zensui', 'i')ntelligence is a tool, which can be used for suffering or happiness. We need Wisdom, Insight more than we need intelligence. Such survivors that planned the annihilation of their fellow humans are not worthy of Life.

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'I')f you'd rather be the replacer than the replaced, then think carefully, [i]understand which team you're really on,

[Jenab6]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jenab6', 'I')f you'd rather be the replacer than the replaced, then think carefully, [i]understand which team you're really on,

[Ludi]

That is not "the African," he is a member of a tribe who are genetically the oldest known human group on Earth. He is the original of "Cro Magnon" that you are so proud of.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]His brain remains at the size of a Homo erectus.

[Jenab6]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'T')hat is not "the African," he is a member of a tribe who are genetically the oldest known human group on Earth. He is the original of "Cro Magnon" that you are so proud of.